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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#841 » by basketballRob » Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:34 am

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Reverse_Angle wrote:I am not sure if this was posted, but here is a write-up from Grantland about Exum:

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/titus-nba-draft-international-dante-exum-dario-saric-clint-capela-jusuf-nurkic-kristaps-porzingis/

Wait, what? This is it? This is the guy who could be as good as Andrew Wiggins, Jabari Parker, and Joel Embiid? Did NBA scouts even watch this thing? I know they’ve watched Exum play hours upon hours of real basketball over the last few years, but that only tells me that NBA scouts know how to waste time and money.


I am still pro Dante, but this kinda confirms my suspicions about the guy: he may not be as skilled and smart as people think he is. If you compound that with average athleticism, this pick has a bust potential more so than Smart pick would have.


Exum having higher bust potential isn't anything new. Teams want him for his insane potential, not because he's a safe pick.


Do you think Exum could just end up being Marshon Brooks type player? Brooks is a better athlete and could've put up the same numbers as Exum in the same situations.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#842 » by basketballRob » Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:40 am

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If Oladipo couldn't start over Meer, there is no way in **** Exum would start over Meer.


I agree for the 2014/15 season. Exum will be a young 19 yo old for most of the season (he is 18 during the summer leagues).

He thus, in addition to spending a year working on his jumper, needs to learn the "rules" of the off-of-the-court NBA lifestyle. Jameer Nelson is exactly the guy to do that, with Oladipo offer a great deal of assistance.

Drafting Dante Exum is about the long-term future, not "his role" in the 2014/15 season.


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If one goes by NBAdraft.net, Orlando drafts Exum and Šarić. Neither would be projected to start in the coming season. Orlando's depth chart could very well be:

Nelson/Exum/Moore
Oladipo/Lamb
Harris/Harkless
O'Quinn/Nicholson/Osby
Vučević/Dedmon

+ whatever assets the Magic get for Afflalo (the above shows a need for a combo forward).

That is not a 41 win team. What I am taking from the idea of drafting Exum (and Šarić) is that the Magic will be awful for yet another year. But it all builds up nicely for the 2015/16 season.

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Exum is 14 mos. younger than Smart. Smart could've been a starter in the NBA last year.

Saric's defense is terrible and I doubt he goes in the top 20.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#843 » by MagicStarwipe » Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:09 pm

basketballRob wrote:
G-Heel wrote:
Reverse_Angle wrote:I am not sure if this was posted, but here is a write-up from Grantland about Exum:

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/titus-nba-draft-international-dante-exum-dario-saric-clint-capela-jusuf-nurkic-kristaps-porzingis/



I am still pro Dante, but this kinda confirms my suspicions about the guy: he may not be as skilled and smart as people think he is. If you compound that with average athleticism, this pick has a bust potential more so than Smart pick would have.


Exum having higher bust potential isn't anything new. Teams want him for his insane potential, not because he's a safe pick.


Do you think Exum could just end up being Marshon Brooks type player? Brooks is a better athlete and could've put up the same numbers as Exum in the same situations.


Now I've heard it all.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#844 » by Blue_and_Whte » Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:19 pm

basketballRob wrote:
G-Heel wrote:
Reverse_Angle wrote:I am not sure if this was posted, but here is a write-up from Grantland about Exum:

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/titus-nba-draft-international-dante-exum-dario-saric-clint-capela-jusuf-nurkic-kristaps-porzingis/



I am still pro Dante, but this kinda confirms my suspicions about the guy: he may not be as skilled and smart as people think he is. If you compound that with average athleticism, this pick has a bust potential more so than Smart pick would have.


Exum having higher bust potential isn't anything new. Teams want him for his insane potential, not because he's a safe pick.


Do you think Exum could just end up being Marshon Brooks type player? Brooks is a better athlete and could've put up the same numbers as Exum in the same situations.
come on man. The next Brooks? Even I know better than that...











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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#845 » by basketballRob » Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:13 pm

MagicStarwipe wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
G-Heel wrote:
Exum having higher bust potential isn't anything new. Teams want him for his insane potential, not because he's a safe pick.


Do you think Exum could just end up being Marshon Brooks type player? Brooks is a better athlete and could've put up the same numbers as Exum in the same situations.


Now I've heard it all.



Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but yes Brooks is a better athlete, that's a fact.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#846 » by fendilim » Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:33 pm

basketballRob wrote:
MagicStarwipe wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
Do you think Exum could just end up being Marshon Brooks type player? Brooks is a better athlete and could've put up the same numbers as Exum in the same situations.


Now I've heard it all.



Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but yes Brooks is a better athlete, that's a fact.
just curious, how?
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#847 » by basketballRob » Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:37 pm

fendilim wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
MagicStarwipe wrote:
Now I've heard it all.



Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but yes Brooks is a better athlete, that's a fact.
just curious, how?


Brooks is faster and can jump higher. That's usually a good indication.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#848 » by Orlwillbeback » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:06 pm

Lol
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#849 » by MagicStarwipe » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:14 pm

Wow. Ok man lol. One of Exum's biggest strengths is his athleticism. He has great quickness, speed and agility for his size. His leaping is not Vince Carter-esque but it's still above average. Brooks is an average to below average athlete. But hey, you've probably got your mind made up already so it's whatever. We'll see who we draft.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#850 » by basketballRob » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:21 pm

MagicStarwipe wrote:Wow. Ok man lol. One of Exum's biggest strengths is his athleticism. He has great quickness, speed and agility for his size. His leaping is not Vince Carter-esque but it's still above average. Brooks is an average to below average athlete. But hey, you've probably got your mind made up already so it's whatever. We'll see who we draft.


No I based it on the numbers at the NBA combine.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#851 » by OrlChamps2030 » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:24 pm

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MagicStarwipe wrote:Wow. Ok man lol. One of Exum's biggest strengths is his athleticism. He has great quickness, speed and agility for his size. His leaping is not Vince Carter-esque but it's still above average. Brooks is an average to below average athlete. But hey, you've probably got your mind made up already so it's whatever. We'll see who we draft.


No I based it on the numbers at the NBA combine.


The same combine numbers that say Cody Zeller is more athletic than Dwight?? Cmon man..Gotta use context
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#852 » by MagicStarwipe » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:26 pm

basketballRob wrote:
MagicStarwipe wrote:Wow. Ok man lol. One of Exum's biggest strengths is his athleticism. He has great quickness, speed and agility for his size. His leaping is not Vince Carter-esque but it's still above average. Brooks is an average to below average athlete. But hey, you've probably got your mind made up already so it's whatever. We'll see who we draft.


No I based it on the numbers at the NBA combine.

The combine can be very misleading. Watch Marshon Brooks on a basketball court and watch the footage available of Exum. Exum is a superior athlete and it isn't close.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#853 » by Hilltop » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:28 pm

His vertical at the combine wasn't anything special but there's a lot more to athleticism than hops. Exum's size, wingspan, speed, agility, and body control are all impressive.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#854 » by basketballRob » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:28 pm

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basketballRob wrote:
MagicStarwipe wrote:Wow. Ok man lol. One of Exum's biggest strengths is his athleticism. He has great quickness, speed and agility for his size. His leaping is not Vince Carter-esque but it's still above average. Brooks is an average to below average athlete. But hey, you've probably got your mind made up already so it's whatever. We'll see who we draft.


No I based it on the numbers at the NBA combine.


The same combine numbers that say Cody Zeller is more athletic than Dwight?? Cmon man..Gotta use context


What are Zeller's number's compared to Dwight?
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#855 » by basketballRob » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:30 pm

basketballRob wrote:
Zmill wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
No I based it on the numbers at the NBA combine.


The same combine numbers that say Cody Zeller is more athletic than Dwight?? Cmon man..Gotta use context


What are Zeller's number's compared to Dwight?



Who ever said that Zeller was more athletic than Dwight?
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#856 » by basketballRob » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:32 pm

Hilltop wrote:His vertical at the combine wasn't anything special but there's a lot more to athleticism than hops. Exum's size, wingspan, speed, agility, and body control are all impressive.


Cool! But Brook's wingspan, speed, and agility was better than Exum's.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#857 » by OrlandO » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:38 pm

basketballRob wrote:
Zmill wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
No I based it on the numbers at the NBA combine.


The same combine numbers that say Cody Zeller is more athletic than Dwight?? Cmon man..Gotta use context


What are Zeller's number's compared to Dwight?

zeller vs howard:
35.5" vs 30.5" no step vert
37.5" vs 35.5" max vert
10.82 vs 11.21 lane agility
3.15 vs 3.14 3/4 sprint
17 v 7 bench press
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#858 » by drsd » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:43 pm

11 days until Orlando drafts Exum.


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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#859 » by basketballRob » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:52 pm

OrlandO wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
Zmill wrote:
The same combine numbers that say Cody Zeller is more athletic than Dwight?? Cmon man..Gotta use context


What are Zeller's number's compared to Dwight?

zeller vs howard:
35.5" vs 30.5" no step vert
37.5" vs 35.5" max vert
10.82 vs 11.21 lane agility
3.15 vs 3.14 3/4 sprint
17 v 7 bench press


Do you happen to have their wingspan's and reach too? My guess is that Howard has more than a couple inches on Zeller. So Howard can actually get up higher.

Thanks for the fact's though, I didn't know Zeller was more athletic than Howard. Now if Zeller only had longer arms and a couple more pounds might be a comparable player.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#860 » by basketballRob » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:54 pm

basketballRob wrote:
OrlandO wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
What are Zeller's number's compared to Dwight?

zeller vs howard:
35.5" vs 30.5" no step vert
37.5" vs 35.5" max vert
10.82 vs 11.21 lane agility
3.15 vs 3.14 3/4 sprint
17 v 7 bench press


Do you happen to have their wingspan's and reach too? My guess is that Howard has more than a couple inches on Zeller. So Howard can actually get up higher.

Thanks for the fact's though, I didn't know Zeller was more athletic than Howard. Now if Zeller only had longer arms and a couple more pounds might be a comparable player.



Kind of interesting that both Zeller and Howard are faster than Exum.

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