Gilbert to Orlando heating up

[SolidSnake008]

Why Jrich? is he any good? haven't watched any Suns games really

[Magic#1]

I will be really, really surprised if we deal Rashard. If Washington agrees to that, that's a deal we have to make. Although that absolutely means we have to deal VC, too. I'm still expecting it to be VC for Arenas and Gortat to Houston with other pieces involved.

[captoon]

Well, it's perfect trade weather in the City Beautiful. Cold, dark, rainy morning. 

Consider yourself lucky, it's bloody well snowing here in Paris!

On topic, as asked by 'CourtsideTV' (that's one weird nickname by the way...), what makes people so confident a trade will happen this weekend?

[JNelson43]

This is what always happens. There's an initial rumor then everyone else jumps on it and regurgitates the same rumor, and I mistakenly assume that the rest of these people have new sources. Then time passes and... what? Is it true or not? It may be, I buy it more than the CP3 thing, but we'll have to wait and see. Hopefully we won't have to wait too long.

[Magic#1]

what major websites are reporting Arenas to Orlando? the most major, ESPN, certainly isn't. and of the other 'majors', how many times have they reported a similar rumour, if not the same one?

i'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade, i'm just saying i saw all of this during the summer of CP3, and it's all the same again.

i think something will happen, but i don't think it will be Arenas. i could be wrong, and i'm not prepared to eat my words if i am. but i don't think it will happen.

Yahoo .. Adrian Wojnarowski is as far as I know a very good writer and would never post something that he hasn't checked ..

Wojo is among the best. And ESPN is wayyyyy overrated.

[AdamTheGreek]

I think only a Lewis for Arenas deal makes sense for The Magic given the years left on their contracts. Not sure how much sense it makes for Washington though other than the one less year on Lewis' deal should Arenas not opt out of his deal. Something else could be on both sides like picks or maybe a throw-in like Ryan Anderson. Washington could also send someone back.

It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out multiple moves probably need to be made here.

I do feel Gortat is not going to Washington for Arenas. Marcin Gortat is the most valuable trading chip and when he is dealt, they had better get a good piece for him.

It would be best to package Carter with Gortat. I think Melo wants to go to NYC but it does not hurt to try.

I'm against getting Turkoglu though given the years left on his deal and would not include Gortat for him. Turk is wearing down and has a bloated deal. That's not what you deal Gortat for.

This will be interesting to see play out.

A move needs to be made and while Gilbert Arenas could help this team by getting his own shot/scoring, it's high reward and very high risk with that contract/worry he could wear down and maybe Steve Francis 2.

The Hedo ship has sailed. Pointless to get him back unless you get Nash involved.

I don't see Washington needing any centers with Blatche, McGee, and Seraphin. Even if Blatche is traded, they still don't need Marcin. Gortat's best destination right now could be Philly, Portland, and Houston. Those are the only 3 I see wanting his services.

[CourtsideTV]

arenas is no where near steve francis level. that is like saying kobe will turn into tmac.

[Last Guardian]

arenas is no where near steve francis level. that is like saying kobe will turn into tmac.

I hope you aren't serious. Arenas is not that good.

[JustDwight]

I give a f^*^. He could be an integrate part of a championship winning team here and he's still marginally young at 28. I would dance in the rainy streets or Orlando today if we magically unload Lewis's contract and acquire Gil. DO IT OTIS!!

Lol. Arenas is a small SG who doesn't play defense. He jacks up shots at a low % and has never and will never be a legit playmaker.

You unload Lewis contract and basically get a similar contract back....but for 2 extra years.

And the best part is, he is a headcase and injury prone.

This would be an excellent trade for Orlando, no doubt!

He's barely conscious in Washington this yr considering their unwillingness to win a ball game and I think a fresh start on a quality organization would vivify his potential to be a great player. I'm not worried about his gun crap from the past, him and Otis respect each other quite a lot, and I expect him to be nothing but professional here. He can play defense. And... LEWIS SUCKS and GIL DOESN'T.

[tiderulz]

I give a f^*^. He could be an integrate part of a championship winning team here and he's still marginally young at 28. I would dance in the rainy streets or Orlando today if we magically unload Lewis's contract and acquire Gil. DO IT OTIS!!

Lol. Arenas is a small SG who doesn't play defense. He jacks up shots at a low % and has never and will never be a legit playmaker.

You unload Lewis contract and basically get a similar contract back....but for 2 extra years.

And the best part is, he is a headcase and injury prone.

This would be an excellent trade for Orlando, no doubt!

no, he isnt a small SG, he is a PG being played out of position so that washington can play their #1 pick at PG. With Wall hurt, Gil has put up good numbers as the starting PG. if he is moved here, Nelson either has to go to backup PG or be moved. We have to play Arenas at PG, not at SG. And it isnt for 2 extra years, it is for 1 year more than Lewis, but for a better all around palyer. And he isnt injury prone, he had 1 bad injury. Geesh, learn a little more about what you are trying to talk about.

[AdamTheGreek]

BS finally has awoken:

MagicMattOS Matt Humphrey
Carmelo Anthony remains the top Orlando #Magic trade target, but a Gilbert Arenas deal has legs http://me.lt/7DPO #nba

[BelgianMagic]

@MrMichaelLee
2 more sources confirmed Gilbert Arenas-to-ORL trade talks have heated up. 1 said deal isn't imminent; Arenas expected to suit up vs. MIA

[arsenal6106]

all of this was known this morning

[cb1115]

So from what I can tell the Arenas trade is ready to go but we're still hoping to get Melo. The only way I see Melo getting here is if he forces his way here, which I don't think he's going to do.

[Last Guardian]

I give a f^*^. He could be an integrate part of a championship winning team here and he's still marginally young at 28. I would dance in the rainy streets or Orlando today if we magically unload Lewis's contract and acquire Gil. DO IT OTIS!!

Lol. Arenas is a small SG who doesn't play defense. He jacks up shots at a low % and has never and will never be a legit playmaker.

You unload Lewis contract and basically get a similar contract back....but for 2 extra years.

And the best part is, he is a headcase and injury prone.

This would be an excellent trade for Orlando, no doubt!

no, he isnt a small SG, he is a PG being played out of position so that washington can play their #1 pick at PG. With Wall hurt, Gil has put up good numbers as the starting PG. if he is moved here, Nelson either has to go to backup PG or be moved. We have to play Arenas at PG, not at SG. And it isnt for 2 extra years, it is for 1 year more than Lewis, but for a better all around palyer. And he isnt injury prone, he had 1 bad injury. Geesh, learn a little more about what you are trying to talk about.

Another delusional poster.

Lets start with your laughable point of calling him a PG. A career 5.6apg with 3.3 TOpg player is a PG? A guy who looks for his shot FAR more than Nelson does is a PG? I am sure you are one of the ones complaining about Nelson and you talk about playing Gil at PG. Wow. Not only does he chuck up shots but his assists/TO ratio is horrible. The guy is obviously a small shooting guard.

Not injury prone?

07-08: 13 games
08-09: 2 games
09-10: 32 games

Yea maybe it was 1 bad injury....that keep re-occuring. Ummm, thats injury prone.

And okay, sorry I got the years wrong. 1 extra year that we have of not winning anything and not having the money to get help for Dwight. Great idea.

[Cammo101]

Can someone cliff notes all this for me? Arenas for Lewis is a move I am so torn on, what other pieces or trades are said to be part of this?

I was in a food and alcohol induced coma last night after my work Christmas party and it is the one night everything goes nuts. Weak.

[chunnyboy]

09-10 wasn't an injury.

he showed up with a gun in the locker room

he's actually been healthy for two straight seasons

[TheChaser]

Man, I last posted on page 39 or something and have to read through a bunch of doody before i even take my morning piss. I ended up not having to work, glad I didnt stay up though. This thread stopped being interesting after page 40. All the same news and now it seems to be more speculation than anything. This IMHO will make or break the opinion on Otis. If we get Arenas and figure out a way for him and Jameer to coexist successfully, then that's a start. And then, if we can get a good wing player in this supposed second trade, then I think he will look a little smarter. He has made some mistakes, but also proven he can be crafty at times. We shall see.

[Last Guardian]

I give a f^*^. He could be an integrate part of a championship winning team here and he's still marginally young at 28. I would dance in the rainy streets or Orlando today if we magically unload Lewis's contract and acquire Gil. DO IT OTIS!!

Lol. Arenas is a small SG who doesn't play defense. He jacks up shots at a low % and has never and will never be a legit playmaker.

You unload Lewis contract and basically get a similar contract back....but for 2 extra years.

And the best part is, he is a headcase and injury prone.

This would be an excellent trade for Orlando, no doubt!

He's barely conscious in Washington this yr considering their unwillingness to win a ball game and I think a fresh start on a quality organization would vivify his potential to be a great player. I'm not worried about his gun crap from the past, him and Otis respect each other quite a lot, and I expect him to be nothing but professional here. He can play defense. And... LEWIS SUCKS and GIL DOESN'T.

Lol...he can play defense. Okay, I don't think I should bother arguing anymore. Obviously people are set on the fact that its a change...so it must be perfect.

[TheChaser]

Also, for once this team needs change just to jump start morale.