When is Isaac Returning? Ruled out for the entire 2021-2022 season

The Effect · Post #861 » by **The Effect** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:02 pm

cedric76 wrote:
The Effect wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
We r not waiving our franchise player

Franchise player

Chuma Okeke is more likely to be our franchise player than this walking injury

Nonsense

Theres a higher chance he never plays another game in the nba, than there is of him being anyones franchise player

He wasnt even a franchise player before the injury

But as usual, the florida st homerism on this board makes it impossible for some to believe it

PrimeThyme · Post #862 » by **PrimeThyme** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:10 pm

The Effect wrote:But as usual, the florida st homerism on this board makes it impossible for some to believe it

Yeah, Cedric the board troll is sure an FSU homer. This accusation is so overplayed.

cedric76 · Post #863 » by **cedric76** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:18 pm

PrimeThyme wrote:
The Effect wrote:But as usual, the florida st homerism on this board makes it impossible for some to believe it

Yeah, Cedric the board troll is sure an FSU homer. This accusation is so overplayed.

Lol, i must be a fsu fan now

basketballRob · Post #864 » by **basketballRob** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:25 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=20&t=_RL0cKYXL_gnOtHhnZIozg

he says no setbacks but good lord it's hard to believe.

Pretty obvious if he was playing we'd win more games.

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BadMofoPimp · Post #865 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:41 pm

I thought teams could cut a player due to career ending injury or something. I mean, if he ain't coming back for 2-3 years, that is career ending to me.

penny_nz · Post #866 » by **penny_nz** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:13 pm

Put this in the not surprised column. Reading between the lines everything points to his body not responding well to healing / rehab / strengthening. Which ties in to what we've all seen, his body is just not resilient.

Doubt he ever plays a full season and each of these injuries is going to sap away at his athleticism, quickness and confidence in his body, all of which is so important for his defensive skills.

Look on the bright side, maybe he's been standing at the 3pt line shooting J's for the last 2 years lol

yoyojw17 · Post #867 » by **yoyojw17** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:17 pm

basketballRob wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=20&t=_RL0cKYXL_gnOtHhnZIozg

he says no setbacks but good lord it's hard to believe.
Pretty obvious if he was playing we'd win more games.

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I think that looks like a possible easy math problem as well. I'm sure they would love to see him on the court.... but i also believe they trust in what he could be for the team. He is a plug and play type of player.... And can be literally placed on any team in this league and make a positive impact. Wouldn't be surprised if they are banking on that.

We are a top defensive team since the allstar break.... hahah... JI will only help that situation.

tiderulz · Post #868 » by **tiderulz** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:19 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:I thought teams could cut a player due to career ending injury or something. I mean, if he ain't coming back for 2-3 years, that is career ending to me.

called guaranteed contracts. But, if a player has to retire due to health issues, a team can usually get salary relief. Also, the Magic supposed had an injury clause in his contract, they would just have to use it. I imagine all options will be looked at this summer he is still cant play

PrimeThyme · Post #869 » by **PrimeThyme** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:39 pm

I think you have to strongly consider waiving him.

JF5 · Post #870 » by **JF5** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:34 pm

This is just like the Markelle Fultz thread..

People who are calling to waive him are going to look ridiculous once he steps back out onto the court.

ORLMagicGirl15 · Post #871 » by **ORLMagicGirl15** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:02 pm

This sucks but it is what it is. Hope he gets stronger and better for next season.

basketballRob · Post #872 » by **basketballRob** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:06 pm

JF5 wrote:This is just like the Markelle Fultz thread..

People who are calling to waive him are going to look ridiculous once he steps back out onto the court.

Isaac will be the best player on the team when he comes back.

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VFX · Post #873 » by **VFX** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:07 pm

JF5 wrote:This is just like the Markelle Fultz thread..

People who are calling to waive him are going to look ridiculous once he steps back out onto the court.

I don't think people will be shocked if he steps back onto the court and is able to contribute.

The question is if he will ever be able to sustain even half of an NBA season. I'd be willing to bet we never see it happen for the rest of his career.

JRK · Post #874 » by **JRK** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:36 pm

Does he even exist?

RichCollab · Post #875 » by **RichCollab** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:52 pm

Draft like he isn’t on the team. I see no reason to cut him at this time. We aren’t spending all our cap.

Post #876 » by **FFBlitzace** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:59 pm

Obviously we knew this was the case, so it's just a formality. Lol at suggestions to waive him and try getting out of his contract. Is his salary coming out of your pocket? No? Then just keep waiting and hope he's back next season.

Kent · Post #877 » by **Kent** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:28 pm

I have to go back to the Grant Hill comparison...

Grant was written off those first four years with us when he struggled to stay on the court. But what happened? He played another 9-10 years after that — at a high level, mind you.

Take a breath. Not one of us has to make a decision about his future or form an opinion about whether he'll play again, etc.

Personally, I don't even think about JI and I mean that respectably. If he comes back and can be productive, awesome! But I'm not going to waste time, energy and brain power trying to predict a future I don't control. But y'all do what you want.

Skin · Post #878 » by **Skin** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:48 pm

Must protect the tank.

ORLMagicGirl15 · Post #879 » by **ORLMagicGirl15** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:16 pm

Watch on YouTube

The Effect · Post #880 » by **The Effect** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:38 pm

Kent wrote:I have to go back to the Grant Hill comparison...

Grant was written off those first four years with us when he struggled to stay on the court. But what happened? He played another 9-10 years after that — at a high level, mind you.

Take a breath. Not one of us has to make a decision about his future or form an opinion about whether he'll play again, etc.

Personally, I don't even think about JI and I mean that respectably. If he comes back and can be productive, awesome! But I'm not going to waste time, energy and brain power trying to predict a future I don't control. But y'all do what you want.

He played 6 (really more like 5, that half season with the clippers was barely worth mentioning), and if you consider 13/5/3 a high level...... not sure what to tell you, but if thats the best case scenario for isaac, im walking away right now
Derrick rose is another guy, he played for a while after his injuries, but as a journeyman and definitely not a high level

BUT, you know the difference, those guys arent 7ft tall. Show me some 7fters who have had multiple foot and knee injuries over a 5 year span that returned to previous levels. He more likely to be Greg Oden than say grant hill