Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 3.0

[Orl_Magic]

Before Klay dropped 35 last week GSW message board were calling to buy out his contract that's how much he's regressed.

[Skin]

I dunno. Klay @ 34 is arguably better then anyone we got at SG today. But what's the catch? Suggs at PG? Anthony Black to forever bench or develop him as a wing? Position less basketball with Paolo as Point Guard / Point Forward / Point center?

Edit : Maybe we can take the DNA from Klay / Ingles / Isaac and inject it into Houstan somehow?

Step 1: Fultz allowed to leave in FA

Step 2: Cole traded

Step 3: Starting caliber PG acquired

Step 4: Sign Klay

Step 5: Move Suggs to the bench and let him go balls to the wall for 25 MPG as the third guard

Step 6: Profit?

Step 1, yeah, I was wrong about Fultz being able to return to health. I'm ready to move on.

Step 2, might've been wrong about Fultz, but right on Cole. Hated him on the day we drafted him and I believe that he still needs to go.

Step 3, should be step 1a with dumping Fultz 1b.

Step 4, we'd be lucky if he chose us. He'll probably go to the Lakers.

Step 5, Knightro starting to see the light as Suggs in the 6th man role. I like it!

Step 6, Profit? Pretty sure this is Magic's ownership's Step 1.

[pepe1991]

Before Klay dropped 35 last week GSW message board were calling to buy out his contract that's how much he's regressed.

Because people don't hold him on same standards as some role players.

Klay Thompson this year
17 ppg
3,5 rpg
2,5 apg

42% FG, 37% for 3, 92% FT
53% eFG
56% TS

48% from mid range

Those are nice shooting numbers for shooting gaurd. It can be better, his efficiency is nothing specacular but he is nowhere near as bad as some people pretend it is. Problem are expetations because he is "Splash bro" and his contract.

But if you go back in month of January, that's same Klay who averaged 20 ppg on 40% for 3.

Truth is, guy had ACL tear and achillie tear, he is 33-34 years old, he is more than capable of playing old man's Ray Allen role on Heat, but people refuse to accept his injuries and come to grips of reality that 2016 Klay Thompson is long gone.
Maybe we are just spoiled with delayed decline of Steph, KD, Lebron so we now thing players in mid 30s should still be in their peak? Where most players simply have too many injuries, their bodies don't recover that fast and therfore decline is natural.

Hell, i'm 32, i have some tendon strain and it feels like recovery lasts forever, 25 years old me would brush it off and play, 32 years old me struggles to go down stairs.

[Orl_Magic]

He's averaging 30.3% from 3 this month. Be prepared for 1-8, 1-9 games

[drsd]

He's averaging 30.3% from 3 this month. Be prepared for 1-8, 1-9 games

.... on March 27 when the Warriors visit Orlando. OK. Done!

[thelead]

I’d rather spend the money on younger guys.

Isaiah Hartenstein, Malik Monk, and trade WCJ + other stuff for another guard like Dejounte or Simons.

Now, if Klay wants to join for a 1+1 on ~15 mil, it wouldn’t be the end of the world… but we’re getting dangerously close to paying big money on our younger guys to be messing around with guys like Klay.

[RookieStar]

I’d rather spend the money on younger guys.

Isaiah Hartenstein, Malik Monk, and trade WCJ + other stuff for another guard like Dejounte or Simons.

Now, if Klay wants to join for a 1+1 on ~15 mil, it wouldn’t be the end of the world… but we’re getting dangerously close to paying big money on our younger guys to be messing around with guys like Klay.

NYK knows Hartenstein is never fully healthy. He is lile WCJ in some ways. Better get another big

[Furinkazan]

Klay ? Better get Sabrina Ionescu instead

[basketballRob]

Klay is like Ingles on defense. On the Warriors board, they have a Klay is done thread. At best, they think Klay is a bench player. He's a liability right now.

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[Furinkazan]

Klay is washed up and thats it.I really hope this rumor is bs stirred up by his agent or something like that to up the price and preassure Warriors.
ofc i can See value in having him onboard,,,,but not for the money he will Ask esp from a team like Magic we would have to overpay to bring him in …unless Its a 1 year contract and we AIM at 2025 fa market
People say Lavine is overpaid….but want to give same amount to washed up Klay iits mind boggling

[Skybox]

Klay is washed up and thats it.I really hope this rumor is bs stirred up by his agent or something like that to up the price and preassure Warriors.
ofc i can See value in having him onboard,,,,but not for the money he will Ask esp from a team like Magic we would have to overpay to bring him in …unless Its a 1 year contract and we AIM at 2025 fa market
People say Lavine is overpaid….but want to give same amount to washed up Klay iits mind boggling

I don’t think he’s a real option for ORL…but NOBODY is talking about giving him Lavine money/years.

Maybe a crazy one year deal (like you said) as a cheap PR move.

If it’s not a team-friendly (25 or less) deal, it really doesn’t make sense…and a team-friendly deal to come to ORL doesn’t make any sense from his side…if it’s not GSW, I’m betting LAL.

[tiderulz]

Before Klay dropped 35 last week GSW message board were calling to buy out his contract that's how much he's regressed.

Because people don't hold him on same standards as some role players.

Klay Thompson this year
17 ppg
3,5 rpg
2,5 apg

42% FG, 37% for 3, 92% FT
53% eFG
56% TS

48% from mid range

Those are nice shooting numbers for shooting gaurd. It can be better, his efficiency is nothing specacular but he is nowhere near as bad as some people pretend it is. Problem are expetations because he is "Splash bro" and his contract.

But if you go back in month of January, that's same Klay who averaged 20 ppg on 40% for 3.

Truth is, guy had ACL tear and achillie tear, he is 33-34 years old, he is more than capable of playing old man's Ray Allen role on Heat, but people refuse to accept his injuries and come to grips of reality that 2016 Klay Thompson is long gone.
Maybe we are just spoiled with delayed decline of Steph, KD, Lebron so we now thing players in mid 30s should still be in their peak? Where most players simply have too many injuries, their bodies don't recover that fast and therfore decline is natural.

Hell, i'm 32, i have some tendon strain and it feels like recovery lasts forever, 25 years old me would brush it off and play, 32 years old me struggles to go down stairs.

problem is, Klay still thinks he is Klay of old and wont want a salary more fitting his production. he wants prime Klay money

[Knightro]

I would be flabbergasted (although with this front office not really) if Klay gets more than two fully guaranteed years from anybody, including the Magic.

My guess is that he signs a 2+1 with what amounts to a fake third season.

But really only the Magic can offer him more than the mid level of the four teams rumored to interested. Clippers, Lakers and Heat are all capped out and limited to just the MLE.

The mid level next year starts at 12.8M and can go up to 4 years with a maximum total value of about $55M.

I think if the Magic came with a two year offer for like $50M (25M AAV), that would basically replace Fultz and Gary’s money, help the Magic hit the salary floor, and also expire before Paolo’s extension kicks in.

It’s not my first choice, but it definitely seems like a possibility.

[pepe1991]

I think that most realistic scenario is that Warriors resign him for same reasons why Lakers kept themself on top every decade. Respecting what he helped them achive and letting him and Curry ride in sunset. Curry has 2 years left ( until 2026), they will probably resign Klay for same lenght ( 2 years) and let them retire together.

How ugly it will get in 2026? Have no clue. But we saw same scenario with Lakers and Kobe, Lakers with Lebron. They won't contend, but it is what it is. It's all about sending right message to next big megastar.

[basketballRob]

Klay's camp wants a sucker to sign him so he can just sit on the injured list for 2 years.

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[eyriq]

The Klay smoke could just be dot connecting, but it makes sense.

He's the kind of signing that doesn't threaten the young core, provides shooting, provides experience, and utilizes the pre-extension cap space.

I'd prefer Claxton though.

[JoshuaPotter]

The Klay smoke could just be dot connecting, but it makes sense.

He's the kind of signing that doesn't threaten the young core, provides shooting, provides experience, and utilizes the pre-extension cap space.

I'd prefer Claxton though.

I agree. There is a mix of youngsters I wouldn't mind either.

Yet, you can't deny the pedigree of a Klay. He would be instantly respected on the court for any game he would play. Stuff him opposite to Paolo and Franz and the lane should open up quite a bit.

The other issue with that step 1 - step profit is figuring out where our high picks sit in with that.

I also suppose we could get rid of Cole if warranted.

[tiderulz]

I think that most realistic scenario is that Warriors resign him for same reasons why Lakers kept themself on top every decade. Respecting what he helped them achive and letting him and Curry ride in sunset. Curry has 2 years left ( until 2026), they will probably resign Klay for same lenght ( 2 years) and let them retire together.

How ugly it will get in 2026? Have no clue. But we saw same scenario with Lakers and Kobe, Lakers with Lebron. They won't contend, but it is what it is. It's all about sending right message to next big megastar.

if Klay actually leaves GS, i could see him going to LA, playing for the franchise his dad played for.

[bigdogdylan5]

For me it’s all about money if he wants a max **** no. If he is willing to sign a 1+1 or a 2+1 then would consider it. Even if it’s high AAV. This really smells like an agent trying to drive up a price.

[Knightro]

I'm not particularly concerned about the AAV so much as I am about years on a free agent contract.

Any free agent on a 1 or 2 year deal at basically any price point is ultimately fine and not particularly damaging to the cap sheet.