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Just Plain Mark wrote:Interesting stuff about Tobias' weight gain and any implications about him being a long term solution at the 4, because its reported that he was playing primarily at the SF spot for the first practice.
BadMofoPimp wrote:Blue_and_Whte wrote:After seeing Kris Josephs picture I realized that I saw him walking around lake eola last weekend.
At Barktoberfest?
rcklsscognition wrote:Tobias was probably 240 ish at the start of last season but ended up at 223. It happens to a lot of players. There's just too much cardio to keep all that weight on over an 82 game season. That and less time to lift. So while the guys may have put on a few pounds, they're likely not more than 5-10 over actual weight.
Neon1 wrote:rcklsscognition wrote:Tobias was probably 240 ish at the start of last season but ended up at 223. It happens to a lot of players. There's just too much cardio to keep all that weight on over an 82 game season. That and less time to lift. So while the guys may have put on a few pounds, they're likely not more than 5-10 over actual weight.
No he didn't, where did you even get that from? He weighed 223 as a 18 years old at the combine. You guys gotta stop looking at these NBA.COM program heights and weights, they are almost all completely bogus and very rarely updated.
Look at Jameer and Big Baby who have been "listed" at 190 & 289 their ENTIRE CAREER, Even though they came into the league weighing more then that at 199 & 298 as ROOKIES Jameer is pushing 210 pounds at this point and Baby has been 315+ for a long while. One of our scouts or assistants was even on record saying Davis weighed 317.
@ McGrady giving the advice to work hard. Orlwillbeback wrote:I wonder if there are any bodybuilders on here who can vouch for being able to lose14 pounds in an offseason and then gain it back in muscle. It just sounds a little farfetched to me.
Orlwillbeback wrote:I wonder if there are any bodybuilders on here who can vouch for being able to lose14 pounds in an offseason and then gain it back in muscle. It just sounds a little farfetched to me.
BMP Wrote:
Yo. How hard would it be for an Nba player to lose 14lbs during offaeason, then gain it back in muscle wihkn a few months with the NBA guidelines for sipplements
Another BadMofo, but not Pimp:
Pretty easy if he was just gaining back what he already lost....just the wear and tear of the season and if he wasnt eating right hed lose muscle and fat...then offseason be eats better, rests and trains to get it back
They sell a drink thats around 80...it masks steroids in a drug test....thats how alot of pros taking tests can get away with it...however if they take a test without notice and dont have the drink then they r screwed
The best guitar amp head I found for death metal is the Mesa Boogie Rectifier Road King 2....its around 2grand.
BadMofoPimp wrote:Orlwillbeback wrote:I wonder if there are any bodybuilders on here who can vouch for being able to lose14 pounds in an offseason and then gain it back in muscle. It just sounds a little farfetched to me.
I asked a friend via text:BMP Wrote:
Yo. How hard would it be for an Nba player to lose 14lbs during offaeason, then gain it back in muscle wihkn a few months with the NBA guidelines for sipplementsAnother BadMofo, but not Pimp:
Pretty easy if he was just gaining back what he already lost....just the wear and tear of the season and if he wasnt eating right hed lose muscle and fat...then offseason be eats better, rests and trains to get it back
They sell a drink thats around 80...it masks steroids in a drug test....thats how alot of pros taking tests can get away with it...however if they take a test without notice and dont have the drink then they r screwed
The best guitar amp head I found for death metal is the Mesa Boogie Rectifier Road King 2....its around 2grand.
FYI. I now want that guitar amp!
Orlwillbeback wrote:BadMofoPimp wrote:Orlwillbeback wrote:I wonder if there are any bodybuilders on here who can vouch for being able to lose14 pounds in an offseason and then gain it back in muscle. It just sounds a little farfetched to me.
I asked a friend via text:BMP Wrote:
Yo. How hard would it be for an Nba player to lose 14lbs during offaeason, then gain it back in muscle wihkn a few months with the NBA guidelines for sipplementsAnother BadMofo, but not Pimp:
Pretty easy if he was just gaining back what he already lost....just the wear and tear of the season and if he wasnt eating right hed lose muscle and fat...then offseason be eats better, rests and trains to get it back
They sell a drink thats around 80...it masks steroids in a drug test....thats how alot of pros taking tests can get away with it...however if they take a test without notice and dont have the drink then they r screwed
The best guitar amp head I found for death metal is the Mesa Boogie Rectifier Road King 2....its around 2grand.
FYI. I now want that guitar amp!
I loled at the the Badmofo, but not pimp comment. Made my day.
and this is good to know thanks for sharing.
Orlwillbeback wrote:Neon1 wrote:rcklsscognition wrote:Tobias was probably 240 ish at the start of last season but ended up at 223. It happens to a lot of players. There's just too much cardio to keep all that weight on over an 82 game season. That and less time to lift. So while the guys may have put on a few pounds, they're likely not more than 5-10 over actual weight.
No he didn't, where did you even get that from? He weighed 223 as a 18 years old at the combine. You guys gotta stop looking at these NBA.COM program heights and weights, they are almost all completely bogus and very rarely updated.
Look at Jameer and Big Baby who have been "listed" at 190 & 289 their ENTIRE CAREER, Even though they came into the league weighing more then that at 199 & 298 as ROOKIES Jameer is pushing 210 pounds at this point and Baby has been 315+ for a long while. One of our scouts or assistants was even on record saying Davis weighed 317.
I wonder if there are any bodybuilders on here who can vouch for being able to lose14 pounds in an offseason and then gain it back in muscle. It just sounds a little farfetched to me.
Orlando Magic forward Maurice Harkless knew that by devoting his offseason to lifting weights, doing sprint work on the track and reworking his jump shot that it would have great benefits during the upcoming season.
But he got an early sneak peek into just how impressive of a transformation his body had gone through last month when he visited his old college campus at St. John’s in New York City.
It was then, with his biceps bulging and his pectorals prominently protruding, that Harkless was no longer viewed as the skinny, happy-go-lucky 19-year-old and instead was now seen as a 20-year-old professional who is dead serious about getting better at his craft. Those who know Harkless best couldn’t believe how his physique had changed and his maturity had sharpened.
``Everybody was so surprised how much bigger I had gotten,’’ Harkless said with an almost sheepish laugh. ``I really don’t notice the difference because I see myself every day. But I guess I have gotten bigger because I’ve had to get some new clothes. My shirts do fit a little tighter now than they used to.’’
Following a rookie season in which he had to overcome a serious surgery, go through a wide range of emotional swings and close the year by being forced to guard a Who’s Who of NBA superstars, Harkless wouldn’t have been blamed for attempting to catch his breath over the summer. However, the young forward was among the team’s most dedicated workers over the offseason, usually drilling twice a day and taking only a couple of weeks away from basketball.
The benefits are quite apparent in the physique changes for Harkless. Not only has he added 12 pounds of bulk, but he even grew an inch to 6-foot, 9-inches tall. He couldn’t bench press 225 pounds prior to last season, and now he’s doing three-repetition sets of 275 pounds with ease.
On the court, Harkless is already noticing the plusses of the added strength as he’s able to better absorb contact and finish around the rim. And no longer is he the skinny player others could muscle around when he tried to body up to them.
Harkless said the totality of his rookie season – the harried start because of the surgery to repair a hernia, the midseason struggles that tested his confidence and the strong uptick in March and April – drove him to work all summer on improving every phase of his game and his body. In many ways, he feels like a totally different player and one much better equipped for the rigors of the season ahead.
``I took my breaks and it’s always important to not burn yourself out, but for the most part I was in the gym working,’’ Harkless said. ``I’ve always been about working and working hard. I’m not trying to change that now just because I’m in the NBA.’’
That statement lends some insight into why the Magic consider Harkless a key building block for the future. Along with 21-year-old Tobias Harris, 21-year-old Victor Oladipo and 22-year-old Nikola Vucevic, Harkless is in Orlando’s ``core four’’ of young talent that will serve as the foundation of the team going forward.
Magic head coach Jacque Vaughn said that the way Harkless handled everything thrown at him last season let him know a lot about the youngster’s mental and physical toughness. Vaughn repeatedly challenged the teenaged Harkless last season by having him guard the likes of LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Carmelo Anthony, Steve Nash and other stars.
``It shows his makeup the fact that he was able to push through some adversity, especially since he had to start off the year with the injury and not having training camp with us,’’ Vaughn said of Harkless’ rookie season. ``He was able to play catch up and get to a good place by the end of the year.’’
Harkless, whom the Magic acquired in the Dwight Howard trade last August, missed his first summer league, training camp and the start to last season because of a sports hernia suffered during pre-draft workouts in the spring of 2012. He made his NBA debut 12 games into the season and a week later he wowed Magic fans by blocking three of Anthony’s shots in a game.
But his newness to the NBA game quickly began to show and Harkless struggled to find his place in the Magic’s offense. After a stretch of being briefly pulled out of the rotation, Harkless was reinserted into the starting lineup and his game began to blossom. He boosted his scoring average each of the final three months of the season and he closed the year by averaging 14.3 points over the final 18 games – 15 of which he scored in double digits.
He shot a respectable 46.1 percent for the season, but that number was somewhat deceiving because most of Harkless’ baskets came on dunks, layups and hard cuts to the rim. According to basketball-reference.com, Harkless 28.4 percent on shots 3-to-9 feet, 25 percent on shots 10-to-15 feet, 11.8 percent on shots 16-to-23 feet and 27.4 percent on 3-pointers.
That prompted Harkless to undergo a major overhaul of his jump shot over the summer. He basically re-worked every facet of his shot, from the way he holds the ball in his hands, to his launch point, to the timing on his release. He was a willing learner and one determined to better his shot so that he could make defenses pay for sagging back.
``I’m working on releasing it higher and releasing it quicker and I’m trying to move the ball out in front of me a little more,’’ Harkless said. ``Last year, I would get the ball behind my head sometimes and now I want to get it out in front of me so that I can shoot the same shot every time.’’
Harkless chuckles now at the comparison between his mindset now as opposed to this time a year ago when he was mostly stuck on the outside of practice and unable to even drill with his teammates. Basically, there is no comparison, he said.
He is such good friends now with Doron Lamb, Kyle O’Quinn, Harris and Oladipo that he regularly refers to them as ``brothers’’ or ``family.’’ And he’s also oozing with confidence from the work that he’s put in building up his body and reworking his jump shot. Now, he’s hoping all of that hard work will show this season when he hits the floor for the Magic.
``I’ve always been a hard worker and if you want anything in life you have to work for it. I want to be great and for that to happen I have to put the work in,’’ Harkless stressed. ``My mindset now is so different. It’s like hot and cold. My confidence level is way above what it was last year.’’
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Before he went down last season, Big Baby was having the best season of his career. Forced into a larger role with Dwight Howard on another coast, Glen Davis stepped up his game and was averaging 15.1 points and 7.2 rebounds a game — he wasn’t dominating, but he was solid. Which is a good step. Then he broke his foot 34 games into the season. He was out the rest of the year and has had a couple surgeries — the second to address issues not corrected in the first, which frustrates him — and Davis admitted to the Orlando Sentinel that his foot will never be the same and that could impact his career (via SLAM). Privately, Davis is angry and upset. He felt the first surgery didn’t address the problem correctly and the setback cost him time.
“It will never be the same,” he said glumly, glancing down at his foot.
When you look at the long list of NBA players whose careers were trashed by foot injuries — Bill Walton may top that list — it’s understandable he’s worried. Davis is just 27 but this injury could be the beginning of the end for him in the NBA. Davis is working his way back in Orlando’s training camp (they are taking it slow) and says he has dropped 20 pounds. However, after being in some kind of walking boot for the better part of eight months, he’s just not sure what’s next.
“I have to play as light as possible if it helps,” he said. He said the injury will make him play differently, but he isn’t exactly sure how.
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Hotshot Hower wrote:Dunno if this was posted already BUT..
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/02/glen-davis-says-surgically-repaired-foot-will-never-be-the-same/Before he went down last season, Big Baby was having the best season of his career. Forced into a larger role with Dwight Howard on another coast, Glen Davis stepped up his game and was averaging 15.1 points and 7.2 rebounds a game — he wasn’t dominating, but he was solid. Which is a good step. Then he broke his foot 34 games into the season. He was out the rest of the year and has had a couple surgeries — the second to address issues not corrected in the first, which frustrates him — and Davis admitted to the Orlando Sentinel that his foot will never be the same and that could impact his career (via SLAM). Privately, Davis is angry and upset. He felt the first surgery didn’t address the problem correctly and the setback cost him time.
“It will never be the same,” he said glumly, glancing down at his foot.
When you look at the long list of NBA players whose careers were trashed by foot injuries — Bill Walton may top that list — it’s understandable he’s worried. Davis is just 27 but this injury could be the beginning of the end for him in the NBA. Davis is working his way back in Orlando’s training camp (they are taking it slow) and says he has dropped 20 pounds. However, after being in some kind of walking boot for the better part of eight months, he’s just not sure what’s next.
“I have to play as light as possible if it helps,” he said. He said the injury will make him play differently, but he isn’t exactly sure how.
