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Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII

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Re: Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII 

Post#881 » by JBSouthpaw » Thu Nov 7, 2013 6:26 pm

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List of the players who play at least 15 minutes per game with the lowest ratios of touches per minute:

Total Touches
1. Bismack Biyombo: 0.693
2. Robin Lopez: 0.860
3. James Anderson: 0.910
4. Marcus Thornton: 0.911
5. Anthony Morrow: 0.923
6. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope: 0.943
7. Klay Thompson: 0.949
8. Francisco Garcia: 0.973
9. Andre Drummond: 0.982
10. Cartier Martin: 1.048
11. Jodie Meeks: 1.056
12. Kyle Singler: 1.066
13. Travis Outlaw: 1.075
14. Ian Mahinmi: 1.078
15. Corey Brewer: 1.083
16. Randy Foye: 1.086
17. Al-Farouq Aminu: 1.090
18. Eric Gordon: 1.104
19. Steven Adams: 1.111
20. Maurice Harkless: 1.115

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I'm ok with that. His shot attempts probably line up with this too. He isn't asked to score right now and contributes on the Def. end. I think people like Klay Thompson, Eric Gordon & Jodie Meeks on this list, players that are known as scorers is more bizarre.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII 

Post#882 » by Blue_and_Whte » Thu Nov 7, 2013 7:00 pm

JBSouthpaw wrote:
OrlandO wrote:
List of the players who play at least 15 minutes per game with the lowest ratios of touches per minute:

Total Touches
1. Bismack Biyombo: 0.693
2. Robin Lopez: 0.860
3. James Anderson: 0.910
4. Marcus Thornton: 0.911
5. Anthony Morrow: 0.923
6. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope: 0.943
7. Klay Thompson: 0.949
8. Francisco Garcia: 0.973
9. Andre Drummond: 0.982
10. Cartier Martin: 1.048
11. Jodie Meeks: 1.056
12. Kyle Singler: 1.066
13. Travis Outlaw: 1.075
14. Ian Mahinmi: 1.078
15. Corey Brewer: 1.083
16. Randy Foye: 1.086
17. Al-Farouq Aminu: 1.090
18. Eric Gordon: 1.104
19. Steven Adams: 1.111
20. Maurice Harkless: 1.115

http://regressing.deadspin.com/the-nba- ... 1459027648


I'm ok with that. His shot attempts probably line up with this too. He isn't asked to score right now and contributes on the Def. end. I think people like Klay Thompson, Eric Gordon & Jodie Meeks on this list, players that are known as scorers is more bizarre.

yeah I dont think thats strange at all for a guy who isnt really a scorer.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII 

Post#883 » by BadMofoPimp » Thu Nov 7, 2013 7:09 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:yeah I dont think thats strange at all for a guy who isnt really a scorer.


You still didn't tell us if Martins said,"BBD Gonna Prove Ya'll Wrong!!!!"
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Re: Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII 

Post#884 » by Blue_and_Whte » Thu Nov 7, 2013 7:16 pm

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Blue_and_Whte wrote:yeah I dont think thats strange at all for a guy who isnt really a scorer.


You still didn't tell us if Martins said,"BBD Gonna Prove Ya'll Wrong!!!!"

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Re: Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII 

Post#885 » by JBSouthpaw » Thu Nov 7, 2013 7:59 pm

Has anyone heard an update on Lamb??
I haven't seen one in a week or so.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII 

Post#886 » by Neon1 » Thu Nov 7, 2013 8:01 pm

JBSouthpaw wrote:Has anyone heard an update on Lamb??
I haven't seen one in a week or so.


He is healthy and on the active roster. He just isn't going to be getting into the rotation. Vaughn loves 3'Twaun.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII 

Post#887 » by SOUL » Thu Nov 7, 2013 8:08 pm

Harris (ankle) isn't wearing a walking boot on his left foot any longer, but there is no timetable for his return to the court, the Orlando Sentinel reports. In reference to practice, he said, "I'm just trying to get healthy and doing all I can for that." (about 1 day ago)
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Re: Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII 

Post#888 » by RYgoBOOM » Thu Nov 7, 2013 8:19 pm

SOUL wrote:Harris (ankle) isn't wearing a walking boot on his left foot any longer, but there is no timetable for his return to the court, the Orlando Sentinel reports. In reference to practice, he said, "I'm just trying to get healthy and doing all I can for that." (about 1 day ago)

aka sit to help others get more touches so we can shop them around at higher value!

On another note....I know Moe isn't being called on to score but I am all for seeing some plays ran for him where he's cutting on has mini iso. He can pretty much get around and above anyone I've seen guard him so far this year.


Anyone see that hard take he made against blake last night? I thought it was a and 1 but I guess not lol.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII 

Post#889 » by Optimus_Steel » Thu Nov 7, 2013 9:37 pm

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SOUL wrote:Harris (ankle) isn't wearing a walking boot on his left foot any longer, but there is no timetable for his return to the court, the Orlando Sentinel reports. In reference to practice, he said, "I'm just trying to get healthy and doing all I can for that." (about 1 day ago)

aka sit to help others get more touches so we can shop them around at higher value!

On another note....I know Moe isn't being called on to score but I am all for seeing some plays ran for him where he's cutting on has mini iso. He can pretty much get around and above anyone I've seen guard him so far this year.


Anyone see that hard take he made against blake last night? I thought it was a and 1 but I guess not lol.



Moe made a great play last night I never seen him make. He drove, spun against the defender, and pulled up for the 18ft jumper and made it. There is no way he would have made that play last year.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII 

Post#890 » by Viper1500 » Thu Nov 7, 2013 9:51 pm

^Absolutely loved that shot! Surprised it's not being talked about more.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII 

Post#891 » by BadMofoPimp » Thu Nov 7, 2013 9:51 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:Moe made a great play last night I never seen him make. He drove, spun against the defender, and pulled up for the 18ft jumper and made it. There is no way he would have made that play last year.


I remember that play. He tried it a few times last year but was off by a few inches each time, lol.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII 

Post#892 » by Blue_and_Whte » Thu Nov 7, 2013 9:51 pm

RYgoBOOM wrote:
SOUL wrote:Harris (ankle) isn't wearing a walking boot on his left foot any longer, but there is no timetable for his return to the court, the Orlando Sentinel reports. In reference to practice, he said, "I'm just trying to get healthy and doing all I can for that." (about 1 day ago)

aka sit to help others get more touches so we can shop them around at higher value!

On another note....I know Moe isn't being called on to score but I am all for seeing some plays ran for him where he's cutting on has mini iso. He can pretty much get around and above anyone I've seen guard him so far this year.


Anyone see that hard take he made against blake last night? I thought it was a and 1 but I guess not lol.

and he split the D to get to that point.. Off the DRIBBLE...
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Re: Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII 

Post#893 » by NickAnderson » Thu Nov 7, 2013 10:04 pm

A. People need to remember Moe is only twenty.

B. He is probably never going to be an all star, well maybe once.

He's got a lot of work to do but If stays in the gym and works hard I think he can become a more athletic Seflosha or an Ariza lite, which every contender needs. He gets some undeserved hate around here just like most of our that don't put up big numbers.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII 

Post#894 » by KillMonger » Thu Nov 7, 2013 11:18 pm

How good could moe be? I think he'll probably be one of those fringe guys. Very good player but not great, in the conversation when all-star comes around but doesn't get voted in by fans or coaches. I hope I'm wrong, but if I'm not that's still a solid piece on a good team. That being said wasn't Shane battier an all-star at one point?

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Re: Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII 

Post#895 » by Viper1500 » Thu Nov 7, 2013 11:23 pm

Bobby Ray wrote:How good could moe be? I think he'll probably be one of those fringe guys. Very good player but not great, in the conversation when all-star comes around but doesn't get voted in by fans or coaches. I hope I'm wrong, but if I'm not that's still a solid piece on a good team. That being said wasn't Shane battier an all-star at one point?

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Re: Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII 

Post#896 » by Neon1 » Fri Nov 8, 2013 12:08 am

NickAnderson wrote:A. People need to remember Moe is only twenty.

B. He is probably never going to be an all star, well maybe once.

He's got a lot of work to do but If stays in the gym and works hard I think he can become a more athletic Seflosha or an Ariza lite, which every contender needs. He gets some undeserved hate around here just like most of our that don't put up big numbers.


Trust me...NOBODY....NOBODY forgets he is 20. It's only brought up a trillion times during any conversation about anything. And remember Tobias is only barely 21, Remember Oladipo is only 21,Remember Kyrie Irving is only 21.

Lots and lots of players have played NBA basketball at 19 and 20. It's 20....not 17 fresh out of high school. Moe has played a lot of basketball if he doesn't shoot well, or dribble well, pass well or whatever, it's not BECAUSE he was 19 and now 20.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII 

Post#897 » by NickAnderson » Fri Nov 8, 2013 12:18 am

Neon1 wrote:
NickAnderson wrote:A. People need to remember Moe is only twenty.

B. He is probably never going to be an all star, well maybe once.

He's got a lot of work to do but If stays in the gym and works hard I think he can become a more athletic Seflosha or an Ariza lite, which every contender needs. He gets some undeserved hate around here just like most of our that don't put up big numbers.


Trust me...NOBODY....NOBODY forgets he is 20. It's only brought up a trillion times during any conversation about anything. And remember Tobias is only barely 21, Remember Oladipo is only 21,Remember Kyrie Irving is only 21.

Lots and lots of players have played NBA basketball at 19 and 20. It's 20....not 17 fresh out of high school. Moe has played a lot of basketball if he doesn't shoot well, or dribble well, pass well or whatever, it's not BECAUSE he was 19 and now 20.


Yeah but those guys are obviously wayy more talented then Moe. So whats your point? What I am saying is he has room to improve.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII 

Post#898 » by Orlwillbeback » Fri Nov 8, 2013 12:20 am

That was a nice play by Moe last night. I can honestly say I was a bit surprised, since he made the guy fall and all.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII 

Post#899 » by Neon1 » Fri Nov 8, 2013 12:22 am

NickAnderson wrote:
Yeah but those guys are obviously wayy more talented then Moe. So whats your point? What I am saying is he has room to improve.


My point is, The reason he is not as talented, is simply because he is just not as talented....Not because he is only 20.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII 

Post#900 » by NickAnderson » Fri Nov 8, 2013 12:25 am

You make no sense. Nobody said he was as talented has those players.

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