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Re: UCF Football #19: @ Cincinnati 

Post#881 » by CZ Eddie » Sat Oct 5, 2019 2:45 am

I haven't been super impressed with Gabriel at all this year.
What's the name of that grad transfer??
Kinda thought for sure he was going to start for us this year.
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Re: UCF Football #19: @ Cincinnati 

Post#882 » by Optimus_Steel » Sat Oct 5, 2019 2:54 am

dsg2003mach1 wrote:
silent1900 wrote:
dsg2003mach1 wrote:good lord they're getting nothing on offense, the line is a sieve


I wouldn’t mind seeing Mack for the rest of this game. Gabriel is not there mentally at all.


this, its time to sit him down, too many opportunities to complete passes that have been blown
I kind of expected this but we got off to such a strong start that I thought well maybe he won't have that freshman learning curve but we are seeing it now, also saw it in against Pitt. Gabriel is super talented but his lack of experience is affecting us as I originally expected.

The offensive line also has been really suspect and they were supposed to be a strength.
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Re: UCF Football #19: @ Cincinnati 

Post#883 » by dsg2003mach1 » Sat Oct 5, 2019 2:57 am

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dsg2003mach1 wrote:
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I wouldn’t mind seeing Mack for the rest of this game. Gabriel is not there mentally at all.


this, its time to sit him down, too many opportunities to complete passes that have been blown
I kind of expected this but we got off to such a strong start that I thought well maybe he won't have that freshman learning curve but we are seeing it now, also saw it in against Pitt. Gabriel is super talented but his lack of experience is affecting us as I originally expected.

The offensive line also has been really suspect and they were supposed to be a strength.


and after all that turns it over :banghead:

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Re: UCF Football #19: @ Cincinnati 

Post#884 » by Viper1500 » Sat Oct 5, 2019 3:12 am

A two loss team in the American conference? Yeah I’m losing all interest.


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Re: UCF Football #19: @ Cincinnati 

Post#885 » by Optimus_Steel » Sat Oct 5, 2019 3:16 am

Viper1500 wrote:A two loss team in the American conference? Yeah I’m losing all interest.


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It was a good ride while it lasted but having a freshman quarterback is tough to overcome. Doesn't help the offensive line has been horrible. Why has this offensive line been so bad?

I think next year is when we get back to last 2 years level of play.
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Re: UCF Football #19: @ Cincinnati 

Post#886 » by Optimus_Steel » Sat Oct 5, 2019 3:38 am

Pretty much a rebuild year.
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Re: UCF Football #19: @ Cincinnati 

Post#887 » by Knightro » Sat Oct 5, 2019 4:14 am

It’s just easy to forget that Dillon Gabriel is a true freshman and young guys like that are typically quite inconsistent on a week-to-week basis. DG playing so well against Stanford was probably the worst thing that could have happened to him from a fan expectations perspective.

On top of that, McKenzie Milton was so good in 2017 and 2018 that people forget just how much of a turnover machine as a true freshman with 7 INT and 8 fumbles in 10 games on a 6 win team.

Losing stinks, but sometimes true freshmen QBs just don't play that well and unfortunately Gabriel's had two very inconsistent performances in his last three games.
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Re: UCF Football #19: @ Cincinnati 

Post#888 » by dsg2003mach1 » Sat Oct 5, 2019 12:40 pm

Knightro wrote:It’s just easy to forget that Dillon Gabriel is a true freshman and young guys like that are typically quite inconsistent on a week-to-week basis. DG playing so well against Stanford was probably the worst thing that could have happened to him from a fan expectations perspective.

On top of that, McKenzie Milton was so good in 2017 and 2018 that people forget just how much of a turnover machine as a true freshman with 7 INT and 8 fumbles in 10 games on a 6 win team.

Losing stinks, but sometimes true freshmen QBs just don't play that well and unfortunately Gabriel's had two very inconsistent performances in his last three games.


so at some point in the 3rd quarter you sit him down and put in Mack, DG gets to go back at it the next game
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Re: UCF Football #19: @ Cincinnati 

Post#889 » by Knightro » Sat Oct 5, 2019 12:45 pm

dsg2003mach1 wrote:so at some point in the 3rd quarter you sit him down and put in Mack, DG gets to go back at it the next game


If it’s not beyond obvious at this point that Heupel has no interest in Mack (a kid he inherited, not one he recruited) ever being the starting QB for this team, I don’t know what to say.

Scott Frost never once considered going to go back to Justin Holman in 2016 when Milton was scuffling and Heupel is doing the same now.

He is going to sink or swim with Dillon Gabriel. That’s his guy.
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Re: UCF Football #19: @ Cincinnati 

Post#890 » by silent1900 » Sat Oct 5, 2019 2:02 pm

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dsg2003mach1 wrote:so at some point in the 3rd quarter you sit him down and put in Mack, DG gets to go back at it the next game


If it’s not beyond obvious at this point that Heupel has no interest in Mack (a kid he inherited, not one he recruited) ever being the starting QB for this team, I don’t know what to say.

Scott Frost never once considered going to go back to Justin Holman in 2016 when Milton was scuffling and Heupel is doing the same now.

He is going to sink or swim with Dillon Gabriel. That’s his guy.



Oh, I don’t know...one more faked heart attack? panic attack? asthma episode?...WHATEVER that was in the 3rd...and he might have second thoughts.

I think a lot of Gabriel...when he is on he is something. But Heupel is asking lot, man...a true freshman, on the road, against jacked up defenses, in our rapid fire offense...I feel for the kid. The Milton analogy made earlier was great...his first season was rough, followed by greatness. But the QBs we have on hand could have made a difference in our losses.
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Re: UCF Football #19: @ Cincinnati 

Post#891 » by UCFJayBird » Sat Oct 5, 2019 2:42 pm

Tough loss. We knew Cinci was going to be tough and they were going to be wanting revenge after last year's GameDay loss to us.

I'd like to see some more creative play calling, and I'd like to see Heupel not afraid to try Mack for a series or two when the offense is clearly struggling. Not saying you go to Mack forever, but the benefits of having good QBs with differing traits is the ability to adjust when your QB1 runs into a defense that has his number or he's having a rough night.

DG is young, and like Milton he's having his freshman struggles. I remember a friend of mine after Milton's first year adamantly telling me Milton wasn't going to be our QB going forward because "his hands are too small" and that was why he kept fumbling. We all know how that turned out. Personally when I found out DG was going to be QB1 going forward I was weary, I was excited because it meant we had a true freshman good enough to beat out a guy who was QB1 at Notre Dame and beat out a guy who was the MVP of the CCG last year (granted he was injured to start the season). But I also knew true freshman have a tendency to have bad games, especially on the road.

The NY6 is likely out of the picture (though I don't think 100%), but the Conference Championship Game is still in play for the time being. We don't control our own destiny, but get back on the winning track, take care of business, and hopefully we'll find ourselves playing for it again.
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Re: UCF Football #19: @ Cincinnati 

Post#892 » by Knightro » Sat Oct 5, 2019 4:17 pm

Sometimes true freshmen just don't play that well. It's that simple.

I think UCF's gonna win 9 or 10 games (worst case 8 IMO) still and the majority of programs in the country would take a 9 or 10 win season with a true freshman QB essentially starting every game.
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Re: UCF Football #19: @ Cincinnati 

Post#893 » by magicman112 » Sat Oct 5, 2019 6:29 pm

UCFJayBird wrote:Tough loss. We knew Cinci was going to be tough and they were going to be wanting revenge after last year's GameDay loss to us.

I'd like to see some more creative play calling, and I'd like to see Heupel not afraid to try Mack for a series or two when the offense is clearly struggling. Not saying you go to Mack forever, but the benefits of having good QBs with differing traits is the ability to adjust when your QB1 runs into a defense that has his number or he's having a rough night.

DG is young, and like Milton he's having his freshman struggles. I remember a friend of mine after Milton's first year adamantly telling me Milton wasn't going to be our QB going forward because "his hands are too small" and that was why he kept fumbling. We all know how that turned out. Personally when I found out DG was going to be QB1 going forward I was weary, I was excited because it meant we had a true freshman good enough to beat out a guy who was QB1 at Notre Dame and beat out a guy who was the MVP of the CCG last year (granted he was injured to start the season). But I also knew true freshman have a tendency to have bad games, especially on the road.

The NY6 is likely out of the picture (though I don't think 100%), but the Conference Championship Game is still in play for the time being. We don't control our own destiny, but get back on the winning track, take care of business, and hopefully we'll find ourselves playing for it again.


NY6 is all but gone for us. Boise would have to lose two games and I don't see them doing that with the schedule they have. Going to pretty much have to win out to get into the AAC title game now.
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Post#894 » by nymets1 » Sun Oct 6, 2019 2:54 am

What a day I had today at UF with College Gameday at UF for Auburn at Florida and than attending that game. I love that chant they have going on in the swamp when the opponent gets flagged with a penalty and the chant goes "Move back you suck" "Move back you suck" "Move back you suck". A fulfilled all day success at UF.

Hmm that be cool if UCF could steal that chant for use at our home games when one of our opponents get flagged for a penalty.

I thought the College Gameday was kinda weak at UF. It definitely wasn't as good as when UCF had College Gameday for Cincinnati. But Gator fans seemed happy when College Gameday showed UCF's loss to Cincy last game and the Gators are the best team in Florida until further notice.
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Re: UCF Football #19: @ Cincinnati 

Post#895 » by nymets1 » Sun Oct 6, 2019 3:05 am

Knightro wrote:
dsg2003mach1 wrote:so at some point in the 3rd quarter you sit him down and put in Mack, DG gets to go back at it the next game


If it’s not beyond obvious at this point that Heupel has no interest in Mack (a kid he inherited, not one he recruited) ever being the starting QB for this team, I don’t know what to say.

Scott Frost never once considered going to go back to Justin Holman in 2016 when Milton was scuffling and Heupel is doing the same now.

He is going to sink or swim with Dillon Gabriel. That’s his guy.


I don't think there was any QB controversy after the Pitt loss but watching the loss at Cincinnati, I was thinking at times during the Cincy game that Darriel Mack or Wimbush should go to replace Gabriel at least for the rest of the game. I would have stayed with Wimbush as our staring QB from week 1 and get Gabriel in to play for the cupcake opponents. I was fine with Gabriel at QB in every game except the Cincy game.

From our success the last 2 years, It's a dissapointment to already have 2 losses but both are good teams and the combined points in the 2 losses is only 4 points. The only thing we can do now is try to win the last 5 regular season games and than we'll need some help for qualify for the Conference Championship game and also need some help to re-qualify for a new year's bowl game.
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Re: UCF Football #19: @ Cincinnati 

Post#896 » by Knightro » Sun Oct 6, 2019 3:11 am

nymets1 wrote:I don't think there was any QB controversy after the Pitt loss but watching the loss at Cincinnati, I was thinking at times during the Cincy game that Darriel Mack or Wimbush should go to replace Gabriel at least for the rest of the game. I would have stayed with Wimbush as our staring QB from week 1 and get Gabriel in to play for the cupcake opponents. I was fine with Gabriel at QB in every game except the Cincy game.


I get what you're saying, but this is 100% Dillon Gabriel's team now. He's Heupel's first QB recruit and that's the guy the coach is going to ride with for better or worse the rest of the season. There's no scenario IMO where Gabriel is benched for poor performance.

Wimbush is not taking another snap at QB this season unless they suffer multiple injuries. He's a WR now.

Mack will play in garbage time during blowouts or if Gabriel gets hurt, but that's about it.
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Re: UCF Football vs ECU 

Post#897 » by drsd » Mon Oct 7, 2019 5:58 pm

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Re: UCF Football vs ECU 

Post#898 » by UCF » Mon Oct 7, 2019 10:51 pm

Gabriel is the future for this team. I hope Milton comes back and he should start if he’s healthy. Dillon will be best served having this year to play, next to watch and refine and than come back for two/three years to hopefully dominate.

We’re 4-2 and in most years we would be thrilled with that. Perspective is hard for people who can’t remember the years we weren’t good. 4-2 is a good team.
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Post#899 » by nymets1 » Mon Oct 7, 2019 11:40 pm

Lot of people overrated on twitter when College Gameday announced on their twitter page that they are coming to Baton Rouge for Florida at LSU. Oklahoma vs Texas game is on FOX and FOX will be there for the red river rivalry doing their pre-game show before the game and ESPN can't go to Oklahoma vs Texas because FOX has the rights that ESPN can't be there with them. Plus the game is at noon. You can't have College Gameday at the Red river rivalry from 9 am to 12 and than the game immediately tips off at noon, LOL people at College Gameday might not get in the stadium til around 12:30 and they would have already missed almost the 1st quarter.

College Gameday has no choice but to go to Florida at LSU and its the best matchup cause both teams are undefeated, top 10 AP teams and top teams in the SEC.
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Re: UCF Football vs ECU 

Post#900 » by tiderulz » Tue Oct 8, 2019 2:21 am

nymets1 wrote:Lot of people overrated on twitter when College Gameday announced on their twitter page that they are coming to Baton Rouge for Florida at LSU. Oklahoma vs Texas game is on FOX and FOX will be there for the red river rivalry doing their pre-game show before the game and ESPN can't go to Oklahoma vs Texas because FOX has the rights that ESPN can't be there with them. Plus the game is at noon. You can't have College Gameday at the Red river rivalry from 9 am to 12 and than the game immediately tips off at noon, LOL people at College Gameday might not get in the stadium til around 12:30 and they would have already missed almost the 1st quarter.

College Gameday has no choice but to go to Florida at LSU and its the best matchup cause both teams are undefeated, top 10 AP teams and top teams in the SEC.

you realize the game day crew doesnt call games except for Herbie, and he always does the night game almost always at another location (probably Iows vs Penn St). So it wouldnt matter how packed the area is.

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