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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc 

Post#881 » by Blue_and_Whte » Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:20 pm

A lot of these DSJ complaints sound similar to the ones about Dipo when he was here. People are really quick to give Bamba a pass due to his age but won’t extend the same consideration to a 20 year old lead guard whos played 90 games because he’s “Westbrook lite” Really? Lmao. Please trade for DSJ WeHam.
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Post#882 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed Dec 26, 2018 2:10 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:A lot of these DSJ complaints sound similar to the ones about Dipo when he was here. People are really quick to give Bamba a pass due to his age but won’t extend the same consideration to a 20 year old lead guard whos played 90 games because he’s “Westbrook lite” Really? Lmao. Please trade for DSJ WeHam.


Personally, I think I have seen more potential out of DSJ's first 30 games than Bamba. But, sometimes it takes years to become good. Yet, elite talent usually shows more in their first 30 games. Thus, I think Bamba ends up a solid starter, but nothing great based on what I have seen thus far.
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Post#883 » by tiderulz » Wed Dec 26, 2018 2:34 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:A lot of these DSJ complaints sound similar to the ones about Dipo when he was here. People are really quick to give Bamba a pass due to his age but won’t extend the same consideration to a 20 year old lead guard whos played 90 games because he’s “Westbrook lite” Really? Lmao. Please trade for DSJ WeHam.

so who does Orlando trade? Isaac or Bamba? because Dallas would want a young prospect back for their prospect.
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Post#885 » by yoyojw17 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 3:17 pm

tiderulz wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:A lot of these DSJ complaints sound similar to the ones about Dipo when he was here. People are really quick to give Bamba a pass due to his age but won’t extend the same consideration to a 20 year old lead guard whos played 90 games because he’s “Westbrook lite” Really? Lmao. Please trade for DSJ WeHam.

so who does Orlando trade? Isaac or Bamba? because Dallas would want a young prospect back for their prospect.


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Post#886 » by VFX » Wed Dec 26, 2018 3:42 pm

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Blue_and_Whte wrote:A lot of these DSJ complaints sound similar to the ones about Dipo when he was here. People are really quick to give Bamba a pass due to his age but won’t extend the same consideration to a 20 year old lead guard whos played 90 games because he’s “Westbrook lite” Really? Lmao. Please trade for DSJ WeHam.

so who does Orlando trade? Isaac or Bamba? because Dallas would want a young prospect back for their prospect.


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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc 

Post#887 » by Def Swami » Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:03 pm

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tiderulz wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:A lot of these DSJ complaints sound similar to the ones about Dipo when he was here. People are really quick to give Bamba a pass due to his age but won’t extend the same consideration to a 20 year old lead guard whos played 90 games because he’s “Westbrook lite” Really? Lmao. Please trade for DSJ WeHam.

so who does Orlando trade? Isaac or Bamba? because Dallas would want a young prospect back for their prospect.


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Post#888 » by Def Swami » Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:05 pm

I'd honestly look to move Vucevic for Smith Jr. Whether that requires a third team or not. I just don't believe this front office is ready to make that kind of move.
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Post#889 » by Blue_and_Whte » Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:05 pm

MagicMatic wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:A lot of these DSJ complaints sound similar to the ones about Dipo when he was here. People are really quick to give Bamba a pass due to his age but won’t extend the same consideration to a 20 year old lead guard whos played 90 games because he’s “Westbrook lite” Really? Lmao. Please trade for DSJ WeHam.

so who does Orlando trade? Isaac or Bamba? because Dallas would want a young prospect back for their prospect.


AG.

Agreed. I feel he’s as talented, fills a need, and hes a better fit. Furthermore, I believe JI is a 4 not a 3.
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Post#890 » by GameOver25 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:15 pm

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Driguez wrote:Anyone catched the promo we have for Vuc allstar? The one were we are asking people not to vote for him? Ehhhh.... I mean I get it, but its not the brightest idea because it may just work.

No. Where? post it.



Apparently this is reason number one so I'm assuming there's more to come.

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Post#891 » by woosah » Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:18 pm

Yeah AG does need a Luka...on this team. smh. Well it's not like we aren't used to people calling the magic stupid for giving away potential stars who go to other teams and go boom.
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Post#892 » by OrlChamps2030 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:19 pm

MagicMatic wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:A lot of these DSJ complaints sound similar to the ones about Dipo when he was here. People are really quick to give Bamba a pass due to his age but won’t extend the same consideration to a 20 year old lead guard whos played 90 games because he’s “Westbrook lite” Really? Lmao. Please trade for DSJ WeHam.

so who does Orlando trade? Isaac or Bamba? because Dallas would want a young prospect back for their prospect.


AG.

AG for DSJ makes a lot of sense for both teams actually
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Post#893 » by Blue_and_Whte » Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:27 pm

Def Swami wrote:I'd honestly look to move Vucevic for Smith Jr. Whether that requires a third team or not. I just don't believe this front office is ready to make that kind of move.
If theyre ready to throw bamba into the fire then i could see it despite them already having Jordan. It would definitely trigger the tank but it would give everyone hyped up on BIG what they want to see. (Which I dont think will work but whatever)

Id hate giving up Ross but the DSJ/Barnes combo would give us an upgrade at pg and put a natural scoring SF at the 3, moving JI to what I think is his best position without losing versatility.

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Post#894 » by PrimeThyme » Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:37 pm

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yea i mean he is such a scrub 13 ppg ,4 apg, 3 rpg, 20 years old, uber athletic, nice kid overall, improving from rookie year.
What a bust.
He has so much less value than our picks.

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C’mon Pepe. If I were to use the same argument with AG last year “17 ppg, 7 rpg, 2.3 apg, 22 years old, Uber athletic, nice kid overall, improving every year” you would have quoted me with a page long response explaining why none of that mattered :lol:

He is shooting 40% for his career and 32% from 3. His percentages are a bit up this year playing a smaller role and next to Doncic but considering the fact that we would probably have to give up Vuc/Ross (maybe both), plus Isaac or Bamba it’s hard for me to see a world where his percentages don’t drop below 40% here.

He is flashy and has upside as a high volume somewhat inefficient score first guard (Westbrooke light?) but I think the athleticism fuels the hype train a bit similar to AG. I’d be open to trade for him but I’m not convinced that he is the answer to all our problems.


His "career" is 90 gamas lol.
Gordon plays his 5th nba season. I also never ever said Gordon sucks . My argument with others here was always his , to me, non existing star potential.
" new Leonard, new George" and things like that.

I mean it's pace and space league ,PG with that type of hoops and ability to play 1 on 1 and not terrible shooter could easly translate into star player. It's not like he has some clear problem in his game, he is just 20 years old dude playing on West, against guys like Curry, Harden, Cp3, Lillard, Conley ofc he gets runned over from time to time lol

I said it year and half ago, my target was always Jamal Murray before he was hipster's pick for MIP and before fans knew about him :lol:

&& Isaac and Bambas career is even less games but nobody here has any problem labeling them busts and finished products :lol:

The thing with AG is that we know he cant create for himself. The problem is the entire time he has been here he has never played with a playmaker or starting level point guard. In the right situation, I can see him as a high-level role player and making an all-star game or two. Thats always what I've said his upside is.

I like DSJ but im careful not to get caught up into the hype with him. He has an 11 PER and a -2.5 obpm this year. Im not convinced that he will be an impact player on the level of Russell.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XX: Year of the Vuc 

Post#895 » by Def Swami » Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:54 pm

I'd fully expect AG to blossom into the 2nd coming of Shawn Marion if he were to play next to Luka Doncic in Dallas. I wish we could keep Gordon and just fill the point guard situation. I'd feel a lot better about this team if they had just taken DSJ 2 years ago when they had the opportunity to. But at some point the Magic have to fix their point guard, perimeter scoring situation. Getting Harrison Barnes in return would help ease the blow of losing Gordon; he's having a decent year shooting the ball.
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Post#896 » by tiderulz » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:02 pm

OrlChamps2030 wrote:
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tiderulz wrote:so who does Orlando trade? Isaac or Bamba? because Dallas would want a young prospect back for their prospect.


AG.

AG for DSJ makes a lot of sense for both teams actually

then you will need to sweeten the pot. They give up a player on a rookie deal for someone making $16mil more than him.
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Post#897 » by Optimus_Steel » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:03 pm

MoMM wrote:
Driguez wrote:
woosah wrote:No. Where? post it.



Apparently this is reason number one so I'm assuming there's more to come.

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Oh god, can't believe they can be so bad at almost everything... :crazy:
In the social media team defense they don't have alot to work with lol. This team has been a dumpster fire.
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Post#898 » by tiderulz » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:08 pm

Def Swami wrote:I'd fully expect AG to blossom into the 2nd coming of Shawn Marion if he were to play next to Luka Doncic in Dallas. I wish we could keep Gordon and just fill the point guard situation. I'd feel a lot better about this team if they had just taken DSJ 2 years ago when they had the opportunity to. But at some point the Magic have to fix their point guard, perimeter scoring situation. Getting Harrison Barnes in return would help ease the blow of losing Gordon; he's having a decent year shooting the ball.

his defense has never been close to what Marion's was.
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Post#899 » by OrlChamps2030 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:11 pm

tiderulz wrote:
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MagicMatic wrote:
AG.

AG for DSJ makes a lot of sense for both teams actually

then you will need to sweeten the pot. They give up a player on a rookie deal for someone making $16mil more than him.

Lots of deals to be made around Barnes/Matthews from their side and Ross/Vucevic/Simmons on our side. Both teams are good trade partners actually
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Post#900 » by tiderulz » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:14 pm

OrlChamps2030 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
OrlChamps2030 wrote:AG for DSJ makes a lot of sense for both teams actually

then you will need to sweeten the pot. They give up a player on a rookie deal for someone making $16mil more than him.

Lots of deals to be made around Barnes/Matthews from their side and Ross/Vucevic/Simmons on our side. Both teams are good trade partners actually

mu suggestion is AG+Simmons for DSJ+Barnes.

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