Official Spec Thread: Heart and Hustle Magic 2.0

[MoMM]

He is now at his 4th yr 240lbs right?

No, injured as always

[SOUL]

I feel like there's no real correlation between skinny players and being injury prone, although you do want functional weight and not to be bullied around from being too skinny.

[RookieStar]

I feel like there's no real correlation between skinny players and being injury prone, although you do want functional weight and not to be bullied around from being too skinny.

Agree.. if the opposite hols true, Zion must be near indestructible. LOL

Chet has the frame that can fill out.. although I don't want him near D12 physique, but even a slimmer JI body would do wonders for him.

[BadMofoPimp]

Just looking at him gives me Shawn Bradley flashbacks. However, his play is practically KD-lite!

If we get him we gotta hire back our all time fats.. I mean all time legends Shawn Kemp and BBD to put some meat on his frame. A normal foul makes it look like a flagrant on him.

Don't think he will last long in an NBA grind style 82 game season. He would become another Pozingus quick.

Kristaps is an inside player with a 3pt shot. Chet is a perimeter player like KD. His handles and dribbles through traffic already shows that.

Dude is a twig. I doubt he can play an entire 82 game season regardless of "handless" or how well he shoots. I want absolutely nothing to do with him unless he is a 2nd round draft pick or late 1st rounder that we can waste on.

[SOUL]

Again, weight has nothing to do with anything injury related and has everything to do with their role in the NBA. The NBA also offers better weight training/strength and conditioning stuff.

People here would probably pass on Durant or Tayshaun Prince or (insert skinny player here) because of silly reasons like that.

[RookieStar]

Don't think he will last long in an NBA grind style 82 game season. He would become another Pozingus quick.

Kristaps is an inside player with a 3pt shot. Chet is a perimeter player like KD. His handles and dribbles through traffic already shows that.

Dude is a twig. I doubt he can play an entire 82 game season regardless of "handless" or how well he shoots. I want absolutely nothing to do with him unless he is a 2nd round draft pick or late 1st rounder that we can waste on.

Man, wait for the end of his college career before saying something like that. I mean, when we drafted D12 over the well-built Emeka, who here predicted after 1 summer D12 would end up looking like that?

Give him time and protein if his only problem is he looks like a twig. Even marathon runners like me can easily gain 5lbs in a month despite the mileage we do. Because so far, his skillset/abilities already shows promise of being a #1 pick.

[BadMofoPimp]

Kristaps is an inside player with a 3pt shot. Chet is a perimeter player like KD. His handles and dribbles through traffic already shows that.

Dude is a twig. I doubt he can play an entire 82 game season regardless of "handless" or how well he shoots. I want absolutely nothing to do with him unless he is a 2nd round draft pick or late 1st rounder that we can waste on.

Man, wait for the end of his college career before saying something like that. I mean, when we drafted D12 over the well-built Emeka, who here predicted after 1 summer D12 would end up looking like that?

Give him time and protein if his only problem is he looks like a twig. Even marathon runners like me can easily gain 5lbs in a month despite the mileage we do. Because so far, his skillset/abilities already shows promise of being a #1 pick.

I have run multiple 26 mile marathon's as well. I competed college Rugby, played semi pro soccer until I was 23 as well competed in 3 on 3 Basketball tournaments until I was 40. Never have I seen someone that skinny make the jump from 20 minutes per game in a season league playing against opponents that are barely physical to the 82 game grind of a NBA physical league. I will put money against him making it. But, hope he proves me wrong.

[RookieStar]

Dude is a twig. I doubt he can play an entire 82 game season regardless of "handless" or how well he shoots. I want absolutely nothing to do with him unless he is a 2nd round draft pick or late 1st rounder that we can waste on.

Man, wait for the end of his college career before saying something like that. I mean, when we drafted D12 over the well-built Emeka, who here predicted after 1 summer D12 would end up looking like that?

Give him time and protein if his only problem is he looks like a twig. Even marathon runners like me can easily gain 5lbs in a month despite the mileage we do. Because so far, his skillset/abilities already shows promise of being a #1 pick.

I have run multiple 26 mile marathon's as well. I competed college Rugby, played semi pro soccer until I was 23 as well competed in 3 on 3 Basketball tournaments until I was 40. Never have I seen someone that skinny make the jump from 20 minutes per game in a season league playing against opponents that are barely physical to the 82 game grind of a NBA physical league. I will put money against him making it. But, hope he proves me wrong.

Well good news is ( for us if we do draft him ). There are a lot of former skinny twigs that looked like him in college that actually became decent body-wise. KD, Prince ( as SOUL said ), Bosh, AD, MitchRob... we also have JI Bamba that looked like twigs coming into the league.

[BadMofoPimp]

Man, wait for the end of his college career before saying something like that. I mean, when we drafted D12 over the well-built Emeka, who here predicted after 1 summer D12 would end up looking like that?

Give him time and protein if his only problem is he looks like a twig. Even marathon runners like me can easily gain 5lbs in a month despite the mileage we do. Because so far, his skillset/abilities already shows promise of being a #1 pick.

I have run multiple 26 mile marathon's as well. I competed college Rugby, played semi pro soccer until I was 23 as well competed in 3 on 3 Basketball tournaments until I was 40. Never have I seen someone that skinny make the jump from 20 minutes per game in a season league playing against opponents that are barely physical to the 82 game grind of a NBA physical league. I will put money against him making it. But, hope he proves me wrong.

Well good news is ( for us if we do draft him ). There are a lot of former skinny twigs that looked like him in college that actually became decent body-wise. KD, Prince ( as SOUL said ), Bosh, AD, MitchRob... we also have JI Bamba that looked like twigs coming into the league.

None of those players had bodies remotely as bad as this kids. Plus, he is slow as hell. I reckon you like everyone else will have to learn the hard way instead of watching some kid move in slow motion against basically other kids with no defense making players in 2 minutes spurts. No way he will be able to be an impact player playing 30mpg against NBA speed, strength and talent. I have no issues drafting him as long as it is a late 1st or 2nd rounder. Don't waste no high pick on a player who won't ever become a long term starter in this league. Name your price, I am taking bets.

[RookieStar]

I have run multiple 26 mile marathon's as well. I competed college Rugby, played semi pro soccer until I was 23 as well competed in 3 on 3 Basketball tournaments until I was 40. Never have I seen someone that skinny make the jump from 20 minutes per game in a season league playing against opponents that are barely physical to the 82 game grind of a NBA physical league. I will put money against him making it. But, hope he proves me wrong.

Well good news is ( for us if we do draft him ). There are a lot of former skinny twigs that looked like him in college that actually became decent body-wise. KD, Prince ( as SOUL said ), Bosh, AD, MitchRob... we also have JI Bamba that looked like twigs coming into the league.

None of those players had bodies remotely as bad as this kids. Plus, he is slow as hell. I reckon you like everyone else will have to learn the hard way instead of watching some kid move in slow motion against basically other kids with no defense making players in 2 minutes spurts. No way he will be able to be an impact player playing 30mpg against NBA speed, strength and talent. I have no issues drafting him as long as it is a late 1st or 2nd rounder. Don't waste no high pick on a player who won't ever become a long term starter in this league. Name your price, I am taking bets.

Well as I said, we all have 1 year to judge him on. I mean last draft every "expert" had Zaire and J. Johnson top 5-6 picks before the NCAA season started... 1 year put a side to that thinking.

Also, well Im no doctor so I dunno how bad that kid's body will be in the future. All I see is an 18yr old underdeveloped kid with crazy good basketball moves.

[BadMofoPimp]

Well good news is ( for us if we do draft him ). There are a lot of former skinny twigs that looked like him in college that actually became decent body-wise. KD, Prince ( as SOUL said ), Bosh, AD, MitchRob... we also have JI Bamba that looked like twigs coming into the league.

None of those players had bodies remotely as bad as this kids. Plus, he is slow as hell. I reckon you like everyone else will have to learn the hard way instead of watching some kid move in slow motion against basically other kids with no defense making players in 2 minutes spurts. No way he will be able to be an impact player playing 30mpg against NBA speed, strength and talent. I have no issues drafting him as long as it is a late 1st or 2nd rounder. Don't waste no high pick on a player who won't ever become a long term starter in this league. Name your price, I am taking bets.

Well as I said, we all have 1 year to judge him on. I mean last draft every "expert" had Zaire and J. Johnson top 5-6 picks before the NCAA season started... 1 year put a side to that thinking.

Also, well Im no doctor so I dunno how bad that kid's body will be in the future. All I see is an 18yr old underdeveloped kid with crazy good basketball moves.

Maybe, we should watch entire games of the kid instead of highlight reals, lol. Maybe that may change my mind if he is solid for an entire game instead of the few highlights he displays. But, still don't think he can be a NBA starter playing major minutes for an 82 game season. Just my opinion. Will be interesting to see him develop though. To me, he is another Luke Garza.

[RookieStar]

None of those players had bodies remotely as bad as this kids. Plus, he is slow as hell. I reckon you like everyone else will have to learn the hard way instead of watching some kid move in slow motion against basically other kids with no defense making players in 2 minutes spurts. No way he will be able to be an impact player playing 30mpg against NBA speed, strength and talent. I have no issues drafting him as long as it is a late 1st or 2nd rounder. Don't waste no high pick on a player who won't ever become a long term starter in this league. Name your price, I am taking bets.

Well as I said, we all have 1 year to judge him on. I mean last draft every "expert" had Zaire and J. Johnson top 5-6 picks before the NCAA season started... 1 year put a side to that thinking.

Also, well Im no doctor so I dunno how bad that kid's body will be in the future. All I see is an 18yr old underdeveloped kid with crazy good basketball moves.

Maybe, we should watch entire games of the kid instead of highlight reals, lol. Maybe that may change my mind if he is solid for an entire game instead of the few highlights he displays. But, still don't think he can be a NBA starter playing major minutes for an 82 game season. Just my opinion. Will be interesting to see him develop though. To me, he is another Luke Garza.

You got that right. Ina grand total of ZERO Ncaa games played so far, kinda hard to judge ANY player for real. High school and College competition are different beasts. Thus also,we can see if he can bring the same skills/abilities against college players what he brought against high school competition. Also, see if his body can hold up.

[BadMofoPimp]

Well as I said, we all have 1 year to judge him on. I mean last draft every "expert" had Zaire and J. Johnson top 5-6 picks before the NCAA season started... 1 year put a side to that thinking.

Also, well Im no doctor so I dunno how bad that kid's body will be in the future. All I see is an 18yr old underdeveloped kid with crazy good basketball moves.

Maybe, we should watch entire games of the kid instead of highlight reals, lol. Maybe that may change my mind if he is solid for an entire game instead of the few highlights he displays. But, still don't think he can be a NBA starter playing major minutes for an 82 game season. Just my opinion. Will be interesting to see him develop though. To me, he is another Luke Garza.

You got that right. Ina grand total of ZERO Ncaa games played so far, kinda hard to judge ANY player for real. High school and College competition are different beasts. Thus also,we can see if he can bring the same skills/abilities against college players what he brought against high school competition. Also, see if his body can hold up.

If he did all he does in those highlight reals with true speed, I would be more sold. But, he is slow as molasses. Those "Handles" will be negated against NBA speed. Kid has the tools to learn tho.

[Optimus_Steel]

So according to the Magic PR Twitter account this is the first time in Franzhise history that we have made atleast 15+ 3s in 4 consecutive games....have we finally joined the modern NBA???

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[JBSouthpaw]

Some early stats/trends

Magic are 7th in 3pt % in the league! 11th in attempts.
13th in FTA, 15th in FT%
21st in FG% (Isn't horrible)

27th in TOs, about 2 (17pg), over league average (15.1pg)

[basketballRob]

Suggs has an eye-popping +3.6 in RAPTOR defense. Franz leads the rookies on offense +3.0 and is ahead of Barnes on defense.

Once Suggs figures it out on offense, he could be a top 20 player.

Franz leads all rookies in overall RAPTOR.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/

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[D J C]

Some early stats/trends

Magic are 7th in 3pt % in the league! 11th in attempts.
13th in FTA, 15th in FT%
21st in FG% (Isn't horrible)

27th in TOs, about 2 (17pg), over league average (15.1pg)

To add to that, we're shooting 45% of our attempts from 3, which is the 6th highest rate in the league.

88%+ of our shots are either 0-10ft or 3PA. Long gone are the days of long 2s.

[nicnac215]

Some early stats/trends

Magic are 7th in 3pt % in the league! 11th in attempts.
13th in FTA, 15th in FT%
21st in FG% (Isn't horrible)

27th in TOs, about 2 (17pg), over league average (15.1pg)

To add to that, we're shooting 45% of our attempts from 3, which is the 6th highest rate in the league.

88%+ of our shots are either 0-10ft or 3PA. Long gone are the days of long 2s.

That’s what happens when you take Vuc Fultz and AG out of the line up. They were our mid range shooters

[VFX]

So according to the Magic PR Twitter account this is the first time in Franzhise history that we have made atleast 15+ 3s in 4 consecutive games....have we finally joined the modern NBA???

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Go figure all we needed was to not run everything through a Center based half court offense and to hire a coach younger than 50 years old.

[tooler]

Suggs has an eye-popping +3.6 in RAPTOR defense. Franz leads the rookies on offense +3.0 and is ahead of Barnes on defense.

Once Suggs figures it out on offense, he could be a top 20 player.

Franz leads all rookies in overall RAPTOR.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/

So basically Suggs is like one of those defensive-minded longbois we've drafted, minus the length, but with a shot that isn't hopelessly broken.

Let's hope all that adds up to stardom.