G4: Magic(1-2) vs. Pacers(2-1)

[magic111]

Guys, listen. SVG is to blame for that last 2 plays of the game. The fing guy ran that same play that did not work the first time, when Turk called TO, and then the guy ran the same play again and when JJ could not become open for the 2nd time, they forced the ball to Glen, we where out of TO. SVG sucks at pressure play calling or drawing something up. I hope we fire his ass.

The play was for JJ to come off a screen and shoot a 3, but Pacers kept swiching. So Turk calles TO, and then we run the same fing play again?????? Why?????? How was it going to work the 2nd time??? He sucks

[magicman123]

of course glen can create his own shot compared to anderson, what have you been watching? i know you love anderson but be real with everyone, glen can create better than anderson

[ChildishGambino]

Me personally i don't want Anderson gone for two reasons...one his potential....two his compatibility with Dwight....BBD is playing great but the caveat is he's doing this without Dwight on the floor...IMO Baby is just not compatible with Dwight....they basically occupy the same space....BBD would not get the same opportunities playing next to Dwight for 30+ minutes imho....Dwight would not make Davis better in that sense.....But that's not the case with Anderson....Dwight makes Anderson dangerous...Anderson with Dwight makes opposing defenses have to make tougher decisions....BUT if Anderson can net us a Iggy or Ellis...then sayonara Ryan

[eyriq]

of course glen can create his own shot compared to anderson, what have you been watching? i know you love anderson but be real with everyone, glen can create better than anderson

Hitting wide open jumpers and flashing to the rim is not 'creating his own shot'. It isn't that I "love" Anderson or anything like that, I'm far from a player fan, but I do like quantitatively good players and Ryan is one, not to mention his intangibles are very valuable to boot.

[magic111]

of course glen can create his own shot compared to anderson, what have you been watching? i know you love anderson but be real with everyone, glen can create better than anderson

Bro that last play was not for Glen? Did you see the game?? Its was for JJ to come off a screen and when he was not open AGAIN!!! We forced it to glen for a tough shot. Go watch the last 2 plays of the game. Stan sucks

[magicman123]

sorry magic111 that response was for eyriq

flashing to the rim with the ball is more of creating your own shot than anderson, im not saying glen is the answer or anything like that, im not saying we should move forward with glen at the 4, but he can put the ball on the floor and drive, he can get his own shot off by dribbling, thats something we hardly ever see from ryan, thats all

[magic04life]

Despite the fact that this has been a roller coaster season, I'm not ready for five and a half months without Magic basketball

[mhi]

Those criticizing Stan's adjustments should read this.
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... mart-moves

Also unbelievably I agree that Davis can create his own shot MUCH better than Anderson. Doesn't necessarily make Davis a good shot creator though, he is still mediocre in that aspect, Anderson however is downright torrid.

With that said Anderson's game is a better complement to Howard's compared to Davis, whom I think would be better utilized in a 6th man role where he would play with a lineup that uses him as primary scorer.

[ChildishGambino]

If we can get one more win and then we lose then i'll be satisfied...we've showed fight and fire in our bellies....let's get at least 1 more....but after that though...i'm excited to see what changes are made....Otis won't be gone completely but i believe he won't be GM anymore....reminder he wears two hats.....Stan unfortunately might be a head that's going to roll whether he deserves it or not.....Would we really get Donny Walsh in here to be GM? and who would be the coach? I'm not too sure on guys better than SVG but there are names out there....

Mike D'Antoni-Offensive guru....that run and gun offense that fits the team well...plus with Dwight we don't have to worry about Defense too much.....
Nate McMillan-Players coach imo....great communicator....great at preparations....Likes players to share the ball......

there are probably other coaches but those two come to mind very quickly to me....

[MagicBasketba11]

Despite the fact that this has been a roller coaster season, I'm not ready for five and a half months without Magic basketball

[OrlChamps2030]

i do not want anderson back. davis should get the starting pf spot next season.

Here is the problem with that idea. Glenn cannot create his own shot any more than Aderson can.

I stopped reading right here. Just a wrong, false statement.

PS: There's more to the game than offense

Inb4 Ortg, per, other advanced stats

[eyriq]

i do not want anderson back. davis should get the starting pf spot next season.

Here is the problem with that idea. Glenn cannot create his own shot any more than Aderson can.

I stopped reading right here. Just a wrong, false statement.

PS: There's more to the game than offense

Inb4 Ortg, per, other advanced stats

Yeah, damn those facts! Math is such a drag.

[Bensational]

My problem with that last play: Davis misses that shot 65-70 percent of the time, while our threes miss 60-65 percent of the time. We took the highest risk shot that was also worth the least amount of points. Such a fail play. SVG had it right when he kept BBD on the bench for the final shot, not sure what caused him to change his mind.

maybe he looked at the fact that Baby had hit 10-18FGAs that night? he was shooting considerably better than most others on the night. this is why relying on averages fails, because averages don't account for the form of the player on the night. Baby may hit that shot at a lower percentage on average, but on nights where he shoots over 50%, how accurate is he then??

i do not want anderson back. davis should get the starting pf spot next season.

Here is the problem with that idea. Glenn cannot create his own shot any more than Aderson can. His mid range game is atrocious and the games where he hits them are fools gold. He misses that shot 65-70%, which is why the Pacers don't even guard it this series. With Dwight on the floor we won't be running any plays for him, his bread and butter flashes to the rim when Hibbert or whoever is playing off him won't be there while Dwight patrols the paint.

Further, the stretch 4 is a proven position to put next to Dwight. It got us to the finals and the ECF, and this year it was our 2nd best position even with a declining roster around it and Dwight.

Switching Baby for Anderson not the answer.

Glen can create his shot more than Anderson because Glen regularly puts the ball on the floor and drives into the paint from the high post. it's not pretty, but he does it, and he has success with it.

the reason the Pacers don't guard that shot is because it's a low percentage shot. in fact, it's the lowest percentage shot in the game. i'm not sure why Stan is allowing BBD to take it with such frequency, tbh.

a BBD/Dwight combo would work just fine, if given the minutes and opportunity. the reason Ryan has been more successful is because this is his 3rd year in the system, and it's the exact same system. BBD was lost at the beginning, and was running and setting picks back like he was still in Boston. any coach that couldn't make a Dwight/BBD front court successful shouldn't be an NBA head coach.

at this point i'd be happy to trade either of them if it meant we could get a significant upgrade in a player like Iggy/Smith/Monta.

[G-Heel]

If we can get one more win and then we lose then i'll be satisfied...we've showed fight and fire in our bellies....let's get at least 1 more....but after that though...i'm excited to see what changes are made....Otis won't be gone completely but i believe he won't be GM anymore....reminder he wears two hats.....Stan unfortunately might be a head that's going to roll whether he deserves it or not.....Would we really get Donny Walsh in here to be GM? and who would be the coach? I'm not too sure on guys better than SVG but there are names out there....

Mike D'Antoni-Offensive guru....that run and gun offense that fits the team well...plus with Dwight we don't have to worry about Defense too much.....
Nate McMillan-Players coach imo....great communicator....great at preparations....Likes players to share the ball......

there are probably other coaches but those two come to mind very quickly to me....

I do not want Mike D, why are people so high on him? I think he's a mediocre coach and hasn't accomplished anything for us to hired him. I rather hired someone young, who may turn out to be a great coach than a proven mediocre coach.

[FFBlitzace]

It's alright, eyriq. That just leaves more Ryan for you and me to love. Screw these guys.

[OrlChamps2030]

Here is the problem with that idea. Glenn cannot create his own shot any more than Aderson can.

I stopped reading right here. Just a wrong, false statement.

PS: There's more to the game than offense

Inb4 Ortg, per, other advanced stats

Yeah, damn those facts! Math is such a drag.

If you require a calculator, Microsoft excel, and a Calculus II textbook to watch a game well..

I'll trust my eyes. And my eyes and about everyone else's can see Ryan is Terrible at creating his own show.

[eyriq]

maybe he looked at the fact that Baby had hit 10-18FGAs that night? he was shooting considerably better than most others on the night. this is why relying on averages fails, because averages don't account for the form of the player on the night. Baby may hit that shot at a lower percentage on average, but on nights where he shoots over 50%, how accurate is he then??

Glen can create his shot more than Anderson because Glen regularly puts the ball on the floor and drives into the paint from the high post. it's not pretty, but he does it, and he has success with it.

the reason the Pacers don't guard that shot is because it's a low percentage shot. in fact, it's the lowest percentage shot in the game. i'm not sure why Stan is allowing BBD to take it with such frequency, tbh.

a BBD/Dwight combo would work just fine, if given the minutes and opportunity. the reason Ryan has been more successful is because this is his 3rd year in the system, and it's the exact same system. BBD was lost at the beginning, and was running and setting picks back like he was still in Boston. any coach that couldn't make a Dwight/BBD front court successful shouldn't be an NBA head coach.

at this point i'd be happy to trade either of them if it meant we could get a significant upgrade in a player like Iggy/Smith/Monta.

Relying on averages fails? Are you sure about this proposition? Understanding a players central tendency is essential to projecting their future performance.

Dwight and BBD have been horrible together for the entire season.

BBD is assisted on 85% of his mid-range shots, and assisted on 65% of his shots at the rim. Anderson takes more shots at the rim and is assisted at 58%. But sure, lets push this myth that Baby can get his own shot better than Anderson, fun times.

[OrlandO]

I'm not the type of guy that creates shots on my own or does a bunch of off the dribble moves or post ups... I'm a pick and pop guy, ultimately.

Relevant.

[crazytown]

Ryno = D.Scott 2.0

He should give that award back.

[magicman123]

Relying on averages fails? Are you sure about this proposition? Understanding a players central tendency is essential to projecting their future performance.


Dwight and BBD have been horrible together for the entire season.

BBD is assisted on 85% of his mid-range shots, and assisted on 65% of his shots at the rim. Anderson takes more shots at the rim and is assisted at 58%. But sure, lets push this myth that Baby can get his own shot better than Anderson, fun times.

and ryan is assisted on 94% of his mid range shots, and 73% overall, bbd is 65% overall, ryan is assisted less at the rim because most of his shots inside come from OFFENSIVE rebounds, not driving to the basket

ASSISTED

0-11: 52%
11-15: 94%
16-20: 91%
21+: 90%

ryan hardly creates any offense for himself, that 73% overall would be much higher if you didn't include offensive put backs, agree? 6% of ryans offense comes from tips, compared to 2% for davis, so of course ryans assisted less at the rim, hes a better offensive rebounder

whats ironic is yesterday ryan said, i dont create my own offense, im not the type of player that dribbles or drives to the basket, i just make shots