Coaching Search: 7/8 Update - Magic to hire Jamahl Mosley per Woj

[CZ Eddie]

As far as I can tell, the Bucs Hamm is post-Hammond era at Milwaukee.

[RookieStar]

If Atkinson is off the table.. i want the dude who told LBJ to F off... but deep down i think Stotts is who wr will get.

[Knightro]

As far as I can tell, the Bucs Hamm is post-Hammond era at Milwaukee.

Correct.

Darvin Ham has been an assistant under Mike Budenholzer since 2013. First in Atlanta and now in Milwaukee. He didn't cross paths with John Hammond.

Hammond was in charge of the Bucks basketball operations from 2008 to 2017.

His three head coach hires were Scott Skiles, Larry Drew, Jason Kidd

[Knightro]

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This may not be wrapping up as soon as I originally thought.

[VFX]

Orlando left with scraps. I guess we’ll get Mosely or Unseld.. one of two assistant coaches.

I guess it’s better than Stotts.

[Knightro]

Orlando left with scraps. I guess we’ll get Mosely or Unseld.. one of two assistant coaches.

I guess it’s better than Stotts.

Yet most people (including me) would be unhappy if they hired Stotts... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Knightro]

I definitely liked Atkinson as a potential fit a lot, but he didn't interview anywhere. So I can't really kill the Magic (or any of the other teams) for not hiring him.

[CZ Eddie]

It is odd that Atkinson left a team with an NBA-crazy, money-bags owner.
Must not have been a money decision.

[RookieStar]

Orlando left with scraps. I guess we’ll get Mosely or Unseld.. one of two assistant coaches.

I guess it’s better than Stotts.

Yet most people (including me) would be unhappy if they hired Stotts... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

uh what? did you or did you not just agree with him? or not? lol

[Knightro]

Orlando left with scraps. I guess we’ll get Mosely or Unseld.. one of two assistant coaches.

I guess it’s better than Stotts.

Yet most people (including me) would be unhappy if they hired Stotts... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

uh what? did you or did you not just agree with him? or not? lol

He ninja edited the Stotts part in after the fact

[RookieStar]

Yet most people (including me) would be unhappy if they hired Stotts... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

uh what? did you or did you not just agree with him? or not? lol

He ninja edited the Stotts part in after the fact

ah.. gotcha.

[VFX]

Yet most people (including me) would be unhappy if they hired Stotts... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

uh what? did you or did you not just agree with him? or not? lol

He ninja edited the Stotts part in after the fact

By ninja edit you mean 1 minute from posting

[Furinkazan]

I wanted Atkinson.Why this organization loves to disappoint me every fkn time?

[drsd]

No press on the Russian-and-Orlando in weeks. Has the stock fallen that far or is this smoke screen?

[Knightro]

I wanted Atkinson.Why this organization loves to disappoint me every fkn time?

Takes two to tango.

Considering Atkinson doesn’t appear to have interviewed for any of the open jobs, it doesn’t seem like he was interested in becoming a head coach this cycle.

[RookieStar]

I wanted Atkinson.Why this organization loves to disappoint me every fkn time?

Takes two to tango.

Considering Atkinson doesn’t appear to have interviewed for any of the open jobs, it doesn’t seem like he was interested in becoming a head coach this cycle.

Agreed. Its the same as me complaining why ScarJo won't slerp with me. Disappoints me every fkn time.

[pepe1991]

I wanted Atkinson.Why this organization loves to disappoint me every fkn time?

Takes two to tango.

Considering Atkinson doesn’t appear to have interviewed for any of the open jobs, it doesn’t seem like he was interested in becoming a head coach this cycle.

Agreed. Its the same as me complaining why ScarJo won't slerp with me. Disappoints me every fkn time.

She is pregnant, wait for a year

[basketballRob]

How much of that talk about the BKN still pqying him thus he is unable to become a HC is true you think?

It's something that commonly happens. I'm sure for example Clifford can't take a coaching job this year while the Magic are still paying him. That's probably wrote into the contract.

This isn't really how it works.

What happens is that teams will sometimes negotiate what's called offset language into a coach's contract.

So if a coach gets fired with 2 years 10M left on their contract andthey get a new head coaching gig, whatever their old team owes them will be reduced by what the new team pays them.

Basically it's contract language that teams like to have in place so they can get off the hook for some money in the event that they get rid of their coach and he gets a new job.

Steve Clifford can absolutely take a head coaching job if someone was offering it to him. So can Atkinson.

I've always heard the opposite of that. Sometimes coaches take broadcasting jobs while they're still get paid and unable to take another head coaching job.

Many companies have a non compete clause for a certain period, especially if you're still getting paid.

I've heard before that if you have years left on your contract and get fired, if you breach the non compete, you lose some of the money still owed to you. So in my opinion that Atkinson won't take another head coaching job until that contract is up. Look at Kidd, his contract was finally up with the Bucks after this season. He like Atkinson took a western conference assistant coaching job.

Coaches are usually pretty tight lipped about the process, because they sign a non disclosure along with the non compete.

[tiderulz]

It's something that commonly happens. I'm sure for example Clifford can't take a coaching job this year while the Magic are still paying him. That's probably wrote into the contract.

This isn't really how it works.

What happens is that teams will sometimes negotiate what's called offset language into a coach's contract.

So if a coach gets fired with 2 years 10M left on their contract andthey get a new head coaching gig, whatever their old team owes them will be reduced by what the new team pays them.

Basically it's contract language that teams like to have in place so they can get off the hook for some money in the event that they get rid of their coach and he gets a new job.

Steve Clifford can absolutely take a head coaching job if someone was offering it to him. So can Atkinson.

I've always heard the opposite of that. Sometimes coaches take broadcasting jobs while they're still get paid and unable to take another head coaching job.

Many companies have a non compete clause for a certain period, especially if you're still getting paid.

I've heard before that if you have years left on your contract and get fired, if you breach the non compete, you lose some of the money still owed to you. So in my opinion that Atkinson won't take another head coaching job until that contract is up. Look at Kidd, his contract was finally up with the Bucks after this season. He like Atkinson took a western conference assistant coaching job.

Coaches are usually pretty tight lipped about the process, because they sign a non disclosure along with the non compete.

not usually for the coaches. They have that offset language. Some coaches take that year off of travelling and such, keep the wife happy for a year. or they dont want to give any money back to a team so they do it for spite

[Magic_Kingdom]

Atkinson signed a multi year extension with the Nets in 2019 and was fired 11 months later. It might be possible that if he takes another head coaching job now, that he'd lose some of the money owed by the Nets.

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This is a really good observation.