Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part VIII)

Coach_McGuirk · Post #921 » by **Coach_McGuirk** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:34 pm

Im still baffled that the only asset the Nets have is Lopez and we cant get D-Will with what we have. Some might not agree but Dwight didn't lobby whatsoever to convince D-Will to come down here, thats because Dwight is not a leader, As good as he is he has no spine.

There is a reason why Kobe, MJ and a like have rings. They are all leaders and didnt care what other people think about them.

MoMM · Post #922 » by **MoMM** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:36 pm

Coach_McGuirk wrote:Im still baffled that the only asset the Nets have is Lopez and we cant get D-Will with what we have. Some might not agree but Dwight didn't lobby whatsoever to convince D-Will to come down here, thats because Dwight is not a leader, As good as he is he has no spine.

There is a reason why Kobe, MJ and a like have rings. They are all leaders and didnt care what other people think about them.

I agree, we should be getting Deron and not them getting D12. Why cant we offer 5 1st round picks + Jameer + Ryno for him?

recko321 · Post #923 » by **recko321** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:37 pm

Coach_McGuirk wrote:Im still baffled that the only asset the Nets have is Lopez and we cant get D-Will with what we have. Some might not agree but Dwight didn't lobby whatsoever to convince D-Will to come down here, thats because Dwight is not a leader, As good as he is he has no spine.

There is a reason why Kobe, MJ and a like have rings. They are all leaders and didnt care what other people think about them.

THIS

PeePee la Fritz · Post #924 » by **PeePee la Fritz** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:41 pm

recko321 wrote:
Coach_McGuirk wrote:Im still baffled that the only asset the Nets have is Lopez and we cant get D-Will with what we have. Some might not agree but Dwight didn't lobby whatsoever to convince D-Will to come down here, thats because Dwight is not a leader, As good as he is he has no spine.

There is a reason why Kobe, MJ and a like have rings. They are all leaders and didnt care what other people think about them.

THIS

Its also because he wants to leave. Dwight has no intention of staying with the Magic, hence the no recruiting of other players.

rcklsscognition · Post #925 » by **rcklsscognition** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:43 pm

PeePee la Fritz wrote:
recko321 wrote:
Coach_McGuirk wrote:Im still baffled that the only asset the Nets have is Lopez and we cant get D-Will with what we have. Some might not agree but Dwight didn't lobby whatsoever to convince D-Will to come down here, thats because Dwight is not a leader, As good as he is he has no spine.

There is a reason why Kobe, MJ and a like have rings. They are all leaders and didnt care what other people think about them.

THIS

Its also because he wants to leave. Dwight has no intention of staying with the Magic, hence the no recruiting of other players.

I think Dwight has tried to bring players in occasionally in the past, failed, and basically gave up after the playoffs loss. He is blaming the FO for not doing the moves he wanted and truly believes if the moves he wanted were made, they'd have won the ring.

Now he's ready to move on.

Darth Magic · Post #926 » by **Darth Magic** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:45 pm

since i'm always trying to get Monta on this team here we go. We know the Warriors are looking fro size rebounding and defense.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cu9vz93

Portland gets: JJ Redick, Ryan Anderson

GSW get: Gerald Wallace, Q-Rich

Orl gets: Monta Ellis, Admunson

PG-Monta/Jameer/Duhon
SG-J-Rich/Von Wafer/Huges
SF-Hedo/Liggins
PF-Davis/Harper
C-Dwight/Admunson/Orton

Rick Rolled · Post #927 » by **Rick Rolled** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:48 pm

TheRocketGuy Bill Ingram
Vince Carter already out of practice with knee tendinitis...expect DeShawn Stevenson back in Dallas before too long...

Potterman · Post #928 » by **Potterman** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:49 pm

I would trade Dwight for Blake Griffin. Put Baby Davis to the center and you have a very tough front line. It's just a thought guys, and if we had to rebuild then he is a good player to do that around IMO.

IGotDaMagicInMe · Post #929 » by **IGotDaMagicInMe** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:49 pm

Wait, what if we do a Five team trade with OKC, LAL, HOU, and BOS

We get Westbrook, Scola, Martin, and a 1st

Hou gets Pau

LAL get D12, Hedo, Duhon, Q

OKC gets Rondo, Bynum

BOS gets Jameer, Ryno, Perkins

I'm not sure whether this works money-wise. . .thoughts? Just throwin stuff out there

jadewbj · Post #930 » by **jadewbj** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:49 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:
I think Dwight has tried to bring players in occasionally in the past, failed, and basically gave up after the playoffs loss. He is blaming the FO for not doing the moves he wanted and truly believes if the moves he wanted were made, they'd have won the ring.

Now he's ready to move on.

I wonder how dwight feels about big baby? He is his friend and they got him and now he is bailing. Wonder if he recruited him or if the management just knew he was on a list from before.

SolidSnake008 · Post #931 » by **SolidSnake008** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:50 pm

Darth Magic wrote:since i'm always trying to get Monta on this team here we go. We know the Warriors are looking fro size rebounding and defense.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cu9vz93

Portland gets: JJ Redick, Ryan Anderson

GSW get: Gerald Wallace, Q-Rich

Orl gets: Monta Ellis, Admunson

PG-Monta/Jameer/Duhon
SG-J-Rich/Von Wafer/Huges
SF-Hedo/Liggins
PF-Davis/Harper
C-Dwight/Admunson/Orton

I like it....it's funny we could of drafted Ellis in 2005 in the second round and now we need him to save the franchise...it's a Long shot but i hope maybe we can get something done before the season but 4 days before the first pre-season game...i don't know

rcklsscognition · Post #932 » by **rcklsscognition** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:51 pm

Rick Rolled wrote:
TheRocketGuy Bill Ingram
Vince Carter already out of practice with knee tendinitis...expect DeShawn Stevenson back in Dallas before too long...

Leaves PHX for 1 day and he's already broken, just like Pietrus.

Nolimit1211 · Post #933 » by **Nolimit1211** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:53 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:
Rick Rolled wrote:
TheRocketGuy Bill Ingram
Vince Carter already out of practice with knee tendinitis...expect DeShawn Stevenson back in Dallas before too long...

Leaves PHX for 1 day and he's already broken, just like Pietrus.

Only player I've witnessed to miss DOUBLE DIGIT 3PT Attempts in one game.. Why anyone would want Carter is beyond me...

Coach_McGuirk · Post #934 » by **Coach_McGuirk** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:54 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:
Rick Rolled wrote:
TheRocketGuy Bill Ingram
Vince Carter already out of practice with knee tendinitis...expect DeShawn Stevenson back in Dallas before too long...

Leaves PHX for 1 day and he's already broken, just like Pietrus.

Its funny in the end we got Earl Clark and J-Richardson for Gortat and a pick.

Darth Magic · Post #935 » by **Darth Magic** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:59 pm

Its funny in the end we got Earl Clark and J-Richardson for Gortat and a pick.

But..but i thought we got screwed over in the deal?

Tayswagzzz · Post #936 » by **Tayswagzzz** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:01 pm

I don't think we are in that horrible of a position to get another player like Monta. A creative 3 team deal could do the trick.

magicman123 · Post #937 » by **magicman123** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:02 pm

Tayswagzzz wrote:I don't think we are in that horrible of a position to get another player like Monta. A creative 3 team deal could do the trick.

creative 3 team deal? that creative 3 team deal from otis almost landed us lopez and wallace :wink:

rcklsscognition · Post #938 » by **rcklsscognition** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:03 pm

Darth Magic wrote:

Its funny in the end we got Earl Clark and J-Richardson for Gortat and a pick.

But..but i thought we got screwed over in the deal?

With trades there is an immediate impact and a more long-term one. We'll have to see how this season plays out. Gortat vs. EC and J-Rich. I really wish we would have kept Gortat, just because I followed him from the very beginning. Through summer league watching streams online, all the way to him starting in the Philly series.

Tayswagzzz · Post #939 » by **Tayswagzzz** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:05 pm

magicman123 wrote:
Tayswagzzz wrote:I don't think we are in that horrible of a position to get another player like Monta. A creative 3 team deal could do the trick.

creative 3 team deal? that creative 3 team deal from otis almost landed us lopez and wallace

Lol...I don't know what to believe anymore.

ilikebeer · Post #940 » by **ilikebeer** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:08 pm

Darth Magic wrote:

Its funny in the end we got Earl Clark and J-Richardson for Gortat and a pick.

But..but i thought we got screwed over in the deal?

Are you forgetting about Turkoglu's contract? That was kind of a big part of that deal.