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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XLI Off-Season Edition) 

Post#921 » by b_mind » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:56 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:
bigmoe1952 wrote:I seriously doubt we get Donatas AND Lamb. Who would you rather have? Lamb really looked good in SL. I am sure Howard will tell Houston he will not re-sign with them after the season. But Houston already knows that. But I actually think there is a good chance he will. That's a lot of money to walk away from.

If D-Mo is tradeable by the time we're ready to deal, he and Lamb will be in any deal. I don't see why he wouldn't be. We'll need a center. I don't think HOU will lose sleep over it either. I never thought we'd get D-Mo, but if this will drag out til August, then why not ask for D-Mo? Framework for the deal would be
K-Mart/D-Mo/Lamb/Parsons/Picks for D12/J-Rich/Duhon

and I think that's fair. If you want to swap Jones for Parsons, that's cool too. But I prefer Parsons. Hard to find 6'10" guys with his skill set.


Depends, does Orlando want Tor Pick or dump salary or not?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XLI Off-Season Edition) 

Post#922 » by Blue_and_Whte » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:10 am

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Everything I've heard is that any Lakers deal will involve the Rockets too. Cavs were used to get Rockets to offer more. Never too serious.

nothing against chad but most of the non gloom and doom magic fans knew this already.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XLI Off-Season Edition) 

Post#923 » by Blue_and_Whte » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:15 am

YoYoa wrote:
VGOSWAMI wrote:
bigmoe1952 wrote:I seriously doubt we get Donatas AND Lamb. Who would you rather have? Lamb really looked good in SL. I am sure Howard will tell Houston he will not re-sign with them after the season. But Houston already knows that. But I actually think there is a good chance he will. That's a lot of money to walk away from.

If D-Mo is tradeable by the time we're ready to deal, he and Lamb will be in any deal. I don't see why he wouldn't be. We'll need a center. I don't think HOU will lose sleep over it either. I never thought we'd get D-Mo, but if this will drag out til August, then why not ask for D-Mo? Framework for the deal would be
K-Mart/D-Mo/Lamb/Parsons/Picks for D12/J-Rich/Duhon

and I think that's fair. If you want to swap Jones for Parsons, that's cool too. But I prefer Parsons. Hard to find 6'10" guys with his skill set.


Depends, does Orlando want Tor Pick or dump salary or not?
both ninja...its dwight effing howard dude a top 3 player, best center in the world. Rookies picks, young talent expirings, and thats still not value.
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Post#924 » by blue and white » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:18 am

Blue_and_Whte wrote:
@ChadEvansNBA

Everything I've heard is that any Lakers deal will involve the Rockets too. Cavs were used to get Rockets to offer more. Never too serious.

nothing against chad but most of the non gloom and doom magic fans knew this already.


The dude is a joke hes nothing but somebody who spends time reading these boards that lives in oviedo fl. i forget how i know where he lives but i read it somewhere. so people saying hes legit now, are crazy and gullible looking for anybody to tell them what they want to hear
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XLI Off-Season Edition) 

Post#925 » by magicman123 » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:19 am

YoYoa wrote:
VGOSWAMI wrote:
bigmoe1952 wrote:I seriously doubt we get Donatas AND Lamb. Who would you rather have? Lamb really looked good in SL. I am sure Howard will tell Houston he will not re-sign with them after the season. But Houston already knows that. But I actually think there is a good chance he will. That's a lot of money to walk away from.

If D-Mo is tradeable by the time we're ready to deal, he and Lamb will be in any deal. I don't see why he wouldn't be. We'll need a center. I don't think HOU will lose sleep over it either. I never thought we'd get D-Mo, but if this will drag out til August, then why not ask for D-Mo? Framework for the deal would be
K-Mart/D-Mo/Lamb/Parsons/Picks for D12/J-Rich/Duhon

and I think that's fair. If you want to swap Jones for Parsons, that's cool too. But I prefer Parsons. Hard to find 6'10" guys with his skill set.


Depends, does Orlando want Tor Pick or dump salary or not?


well since your asking, we want it all

we want to dump salary, we want expiring contracts, the toronto pick, houston pick, all the rookies, parsons, paterson and hot cheerleaders, we will also throw in duhon to sweeten the deal
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XLI Off-Season Edition) 

Post#926 » by TDJacksonville » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:27 am

blue and white wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:
@ChadEvansNBA

Everything I've heard is that any Lakers deal will involve the Rockets too. Cavs were used to get Rockets to offer more. Never too serious.

nothing against chad but most of the non gloom and doom magic fans knew this already.


The dude is a joke hes nothing but somebody who spends time reading these boards that lives in oviedo fl. i forget how i know where he lives but i read it somewhere. so people saying hes legit now, are crazy and gullible looking for anybody to tell them what they want to hear


lol if u just read this off his twitter page
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Post#927 » by Blue_and_Whte » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:31 am

blue and white wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:
@ChadEvansNBA

Everything I've heard is that any Lakers deal will involve the Rockets too. Cavs were used to get Rockets to offer more. Never too serious.

nothing against chad but most of the non gloom and doom magic fans knew this already.


The dude is a joke hes nothing but somebody who spends time reading these boards that lives in oviedo fl. i forget how i know where he lives but i read it somewhere. so people saying hes legit now, are crazy and gullible looking for anybody to tell them what they want to hear

Someone's address doesn't determine their legitimacy. Not saying dude is legit or not just commenting on the statement.
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Post#928 » by blue and white » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:38 am

Someone's address doesn't determine their legitimacy. Not saying dude is legit or not just commenting on the statement.

agreed but come on this guy is a joke and people are just desperate to hear news theyll listen and believe anyone who says 1 or 2 things right or in line with what theyre thinking. im going to make a twitter start saying sources before everything and then will i be credible?
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Post#929 » by magicman123 » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:41 am

blue and white wrote:
Someone's address doesn't determine their legitimacy. Not saying dude is legit or not just commenting on the statement.

agreed but come on this guy is a joke and people are just desperate to hear news theyll listen and believe anyone who says 1 or 2 things right or in line with what theyre thinking. im going to make a twitter start saying sources before everything and then will i be credible?


most people just wait for rumors and then they tweet about it and call themselves insiders, not saying hes wrong but haven't seen anything original yet
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XLI Off-Season Edition) 

Post#930 » by Def Swami » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:46 am

Ahmadab wrote:
VGOSWAMI wrote:Say we did do a deal with HOU and hypothetically got a return of K-Mart/Lamb/Parsons or Jones/picks. How bad would we be? Would be one of the 5 worst teams? Which other teams would we be competing with to suck? Charlotte imo will be the worst team next season again. Any other teams you guys think will be worse than us?


I'm hoping we can suck for atleast the next two years. a combination of Shabbaz/Wiggins/Lamb/Nicholson etc.. can be great

I'd like a combination of the sort. But what I'm concerned about is if we'll be bad enough to have a chance at it.
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Post#931 » by TDJacksonville » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:49 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:
Ahmadab wrote:
VGOSWAMI wrote:Say we did do a deal with HOU and hypothetically got a return of K-Mart/Lamb/Parsons or Jones/picks. How bad would we be? Would be one of the 5 worst teams? Which other teams would we be competing with to suck? Charlotte imo will be the worst team next season again. Any other teams you guys think will be worse than us?


I'm hoping we can suck for atleast the next two years. a combination of Shabbaz/Wiggins/Lamb/Nicholson etc.. can be great

I'd like a combination of the sort. But what I'm concerned about is if we'll be bad enough to have a chance at it.

that wouldnt be a good combo. i have nothing against Lamb But Shabbaz and Wiggins are Both SG/SFs and both are more talented than Lamb. i would say a Combination of Shabbaz/Wiggins/Montiejunas/Nicholson would be better. if we do get lamb i think we should be able to Flip him over for a Nice Young PG(we all know the good Teams in the NBA have atleast a Solid PG)
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Post#932 » by colamagicfan » Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:09 am

Ahmadab wrote:
VGOSWAMI wrote:Say we did do a deal with HOU and hypothetically got a return of K-Mart/Lamb/Parsons or Jones/picks. How bad would we be? Would be one of the 5 worst teams? Which other teams would we be competing with to suck? Charlotte imo will be the worst team next season again. Any other teams you guys think will be worse than us?


I'm hoping we can suck for atleast the next two years. a combination of Shabbaz/Wiggins/Lamb/Nicholson etc.. can be great



Would love to get Shabazz early and Myck Kabongo PG later in next years draft then the next draft get Andrew Wiggins or Jabari Parker
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Post#933 » by Shishnizzle » Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:10 am

Create several twitter identities. Speculate all outcomes on different identities. Take on the identity of your most credible account. Your an insider yo.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XLI Off-Season Edition) 

Post#934 » by The Effect » Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:10 am

TDJacksonville wrote:that wouldnt be a good combo. i have nothing against Lamb But Shabbaz and Wiggins are Both SG/SFs and both are more talented than Lamb. i would say a Combination of Shabbaz/Wiggins/Montiejunas/Nicholson would be better. if we do get lamb i think we should be able to Flip him over for a Nice Young PG(we all know the good Teams in the NBA have atleast a Solid PG)

Id rather have Noel than Shabbaz
If we trade dwight to the rockets, we will be left with quite a few PF/C tweeners, but no true centers on the roster and unless one of those guys become the next Kobe, lebron or dirk, we really wont do much without that inside presence
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Post#935 » by arkknight1988 » Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:17 am

hou has enough assets to trade for dwight and monta or jsmith.

lin/monta/parsons/patterson/dwight

or

lin/jrich/parsons/jsmith/dwight---------would beat the Lakers imo.
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Post#936 » by colamagicfan » Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:17 am

The Effect wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:that wouldnt be a good combo. i have nothing against Lamb But Shabbaz and Wiggins are Both SG/SFs and both are more talented than Lamb. i would say a Combination of Shabbaz/Wiggins/Montiejunas/Nicholson would be better. if we do get lamb i think we should be able to Flip him over for a Nice Young PG(we all know the good Teams in the NBA have atleast a Solid PG)

Id rather have Noel than Shabbaz
If we trade dwight to the rockets, we will be left with quite a few PF/C tweeners, but no true centers on the roster and unless one of those guys become the next Kobe, lebron or dirk, we really wont do much without that inside presence


Noel Good but to me he is a little to light, i really believe after watching O'Quinn he could be a steal and develop into a Kendrick Perkins type of center.
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Post#937 » by TheMagicOne » Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:24 am

magicman123 wrote:
blue and white wrote:
Someone's address doesn't determine their legitimacy. Not saying dude is legit or not just commenting on the statement.

agreed but come on this guy is a joke and people are just desperate to hear news theyll listen and believe anyone who says 1 or 2 things right or in line with what theyre thinking. im going to make a twitter start saying sources before everything and then will i be credible?


most people just wait for rumors and then they tweet about it and call themselves insiders, not saying hes wrong but haven't seen anything original yet


The last real insider we Magic fans had was that MagicConfid dude that has since died. I miss those days reading his stuff. I joined RealGM because of constantly reading what you guys said about his stuff.
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Post#938 » by TDJacksonville » Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:26 am

The Effect wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:that wouldnt be a good combo. i have nothing against Lamb But Shabbaz and Wiggins are Both SG/SFs and both are more talented than Lamb. i would say a Combination of Shabbaz/Wiggins/Montiejunas/Nicholson would be better. if we do get lamb i think we should be able to Flip him over for a Nice Young PG(we all know the good Teams in the NBA have atleast a Solid PG)

Id rather have Noel than Shabbaz
If we trade dwight to the rockets, we will be left with quite a few PF/C tweeners, but no true centers on the roster and unless one of those guys become the next Kobe, lebron or dirk, we really wont do much without that inside presence


i see noel more like anthony Davis which is a Severly Undersized C(weight wise) or a Decent sized defensive minded Power forward. personally if we get Donatas in the rockets deal we really dont need to draft another center(donatas is a center/Powerforward but he needs to pack on some more size to be a full time center). im really shocked at how Shallow the PG Pool is this year. i kinda Like KObango from texas(6 foot 2 with a 6 foot 7 wingspin) and averaged 9.6 points and 5.1 assists with 3 turnovers but hes more like a late lottery guy.
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Post#939 » by ThatFloridaDude » Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:32 am

nothing new yet? ahhh ok then.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XLI Off-Season Edition) 

Post#940 » by bigmoe1952 » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:19 am

magicman123 wrote:
YoYoa wrote:
VGOSWAMI wrote:I seriously doubt we get Donatas AND Lamb. Who would you rather have? Lamb really looked good in SL. I am sure Howard will tell Houston he will not re-sign with them after the season. But Houston already knows that. But I actually think there is a good chance he will. That's a lot of money to walk away from.

If D-Mo is tradeable by the time we're ready to deal, he and Lamb will be in any deal. I don't see why he wouldn't be. We'll need a center. I don't think HOU will lose sleep over it either. I never thought we'd get D-Mo, but if this will drag out til August, then why not ask for D-Mo? Framework for the deal would be
K-Mart/D-Mo/Lamb/Parsons/Picks for D12/J-Rich/Duhon

and I think that's fair. If you want to swap Jones for Parsons, that's cool too. But I prefer Parsons. Hard to find 6'10" guys with his skill set.


Depends, does Orlando want Tor Pick or dump salary or not?


well since your asking, we want it all

we want to dump salary, we want expiring contracts, the toronto pick, houston pick, all the rookies, parsons, paterson and hot cheerleaders, we will also throw in duhon to sweeten the deal[/quote]

I think the cheerleaders signed already and can not be traded until after Jan. 15th. :cry:

I just don't think we get both Lamb and Donatas for a Howard rental. Or even if we do a LAL/HOUSTON/ORL. 3 way and Bynum goes to Houston. Hope I am wrong. Obviously we are going to get all we can. I also hope we do a deal directly with the Rockets and screw L.A.

This is REAL slow now, information wise. We were clipping through these threads at about one every day, day and a half. Nice break for the mods. :D

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