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Who do you want us to take at #1?

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Who would you take at #1?

Jabari smith
111
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Chet Holmgren
63
29%
Paolo Banchero
27
13%
Jaden Ivey
1
0%
Keegan Murray
1
0%
Shaedon Sharpe
8
4%
Other
5
2%
 
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#921 » by Def Swami » Wed Jun 1, 2022 8:24 pm

Trading down to get #2 and #12 or #3 and #17 and walking away with 1 of the top 3 guys plus Jalen Williams could be a solid move.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#922 » by tiderulz » Wed Jun 1, 2022 8:26 pm

Def Swami wrote:Trading down to get #2 and #12 or #3 and #17 and walking away with 1 of the top 3 guys plus Jalen Williams could be a solid move.

i cant see OKC making a trade to go up 1. think they would be fine with either Smith or Chet. Houston is the one i think would be willing to make a move
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#923 » by BlueBlazer » Wed Jun 1, 2022 8:29 pm

It seems like Jabari isn’t as concerned with his physical appearance as a lot of kids are at his age which I love. I’m not saying they wanted to look like bums, but how high of a priority was MJ/Kobe’s hair and daily outfits? I want someone obsessed with playing ball, not being a millionaire celebrity
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#924 » by Skin » Wed Jun 1, 2022 8:31 pm

swarlesbarkley wrote:Jabari makes a lot of sense especially if we're going after Anfernee Simons in the offseason.

Fultz/Suggs
Simons/Anthony
Wagner/Okeke
Smith/Isaac
WCJ/Bamba

I'd watch all 82 games of that team. Fultz/Wagner/Simons creating - Smith, Wagner and WCJ hitting open jumpers all game.

I just want another guy who can create and playmake if we don't take Paolo at #1. Fultz and Wagner isn't going to get it done unless Fultz becomes college Fultz and Wagner becomes Hedo 2.0.

We would have to renounce Bamba in order to have the cap space to afford Simons. I would support that move though.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#925 » by Blue_and_Whte » Wed Jun 1, 2022 9:01 pm

My final top two are Banchero then Chet. Both have the most potential to be stars. I’d be ok with Jabari who’ll a high end 3&D player IMO.

You can give the ball to Banchero and tell him to get a bucket which I think we need. Chet more versatile over all. Being skinny doesn’t negate the fact that he’s a potential generational talent.

Jabari is so far behind in terms of handles and creating separation and space I think he’ll be super dependent on other creating for him. I could see a straight line drive game tops. I just don’t see a star.

Stoked for Banchero or Chet
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#926 » by yoyojw17 » Wed Jun 1, 2022 9:06 pm

Skin wrote:
swarlesbarkley wrote:Jabari makes a lot of sense especially if we're going after Anfernee Simons in the offseason.

Fultz/Suggs
Simons/Anthony
Wagner/Okeke
Smith/Isaac
WCJ/Bamba

I'd watch all 82 games of that team. Fultz/Wagner/Simons creating - Smith, Wagner and WCJ hitting open jumpers all game.

I just want another guy who can create and playmake if we don't take Paolo at #1. Fultz and Wagner isn't going to get it done unless Fultz becomes college Fultz and Wagner becomes Hedo 2.0.

We would have to renounce Bamba in order to have the cap space to afford Simons. I would support that move though.

How much do people think that Anfernee simons will fetch after 1 season of productivity?

P.s. i like him too... and next to fultz and suggs on the perimeter and the defense of our forwards/ center and chet/jabari... he'd work out great.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#927 » by bigdogdylan5 » Wed Jun 1, 2022 9:31 pm

To everyone wanting an additional first round pick this year I think that would be tough with our two seconds too. We would need to start trimming down roster if we go two front court with two frp that means we need to dump Isaac for nothing. If we add another guard well then one of our current guards need to go as we already have too many.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#928 » by Black and Blue » Wed Jun 1, 2022 9:58 pm

The more I've watched the three options, the more I can see what they *could* become:

Jabari - I do see what a lot have said about his issues with handles and passing. I think between these two improvement areas, the easier to correct by far is the passing ability. A smart offensive system will help him with reads and becoming more instinctual. I have confidence this can be improved greatly. The more I look at Jabari and where his game could go, the more I think a Klay Thompson-type career is a very achievable goal for Jabari. He can be a quality #2 with the chance to take over games as a #1 when able/needed. If he can improve his handles the sky is the limit but that WILL be an uphill battle. He is certainly worth the number 1 pick, even with his difficulties dribbling.

Chet - His numbers and college tape are tantalizing, but like many I worry about how his game will translate against NBA level competition. While his frame concerns are possibly overblown they will be something a team that drafts him will have to address, and as strong-willed as he can be I do see him deferring a lot when I watch college tape. People have thrown out the Pau Gasol comp and I think that is absolutely pie-in-the-sky best case scenario, but it will take a lot to get him there both mentally and physically. More realistic is a more defensive-minded, less offensive-focused Porzingis, and I say that less about the skinny frame and more about the shot blocking ability coupled with the outside game. More than most I am not as high on his ceiling as I think a ton of work has to be done to get there against NBA competition. While he has scouts salivating over what could be, he will take the most amount of 'everything going right' to make a maximum impact.

Paolo - I very much could see the case for the Magic taking Paolo 1st overall. He would help stretch the floor and could potentially give the Magic that potential #1 scorer they need most. His tape looks the part of an NBA star, and I'm sure that's why a lot have him labelled as their guy. That said, I don't think the Magic will ultimately agree with this assessment. He doesn't fit into our FO's typical preferences of length and 2-way player/defense, and his style of play mirrors some players in the NBA that put up big numbers but ultimately don't help their teams win games. A colleague whose opinion I hold in high regard has Paolo a tier below the other two and says he could see his game translating into "a less physical Carlos Boozer...which will be a valuable contributor but ultimately isn't worth the top pick the same way Chet and Jabari do".

John Hammond has said they could make the pick today if they had to, and unless this is just fake bravado I've been thinking a lot about who they could be that sure about at this stage before interviews and workouts. Jabari ticks all the boxes they value so he is the easy choice on paper, but Chet has a longer history as a heralded prospect for someone to convince themselves of drafting. Selfishly I hope it's Jabari simply because I see a shorter road to him being a contributor and I think the other players deserve someone who elevates their games from day 1, but will support any of the 3 we end up with.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#929 » by tiderulz » Wed Jun 1, 2022 10:01 pm

bigdogdylan5 wrote:To everyone wanting an additional first round pick this year I think that would be tough with our two seconds too. We would need to start trimming down roster if we go two front court with two frp that means we need to dump Isaac for nothing. If we add another guard well then one of our current guards need to go as we already have too many.

so we trim down. bye Iggy and RJ
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#930 » by tiderulz » Wed Jun 1, 2022 10:07 pm

Black and Blue wrote:The more I've watched the three options, the more I can see what they *could* become:

Jabari - I do see what a lot have said about his issues with handles and passing. I think between these two improvement areas, the easier to correct by far is the passing ability. A smart offensive system will help him with reads and becoming more instinctual. I have confidence this can be improved greatly. The more I look at Jabari and where his game could go, the more I think a Klay Thompson-type career is a very achievable goal for Jabari. He can be a quality #2 with the chance to take over games as a #1 when able/needed. If he can improve his handles the sky is the limit but that WILL be an uphill battle. He is certainly worth the number 1 pick, even with his difficulties dribbling.

Chet - His numbers and college tape are tantalizing, but like many I worry about how his game will translate against NBA level competition. While his frame concerns are possibly overblown they will be something a team that drafts him will have to address, and as strong-willed as he can be I do see him deferring a lot when I watch college tape. People have thrown out the Pau Gasol comp and I think that is absolutely pie-in-the-sky best case scenario, but it will take a lot to get him there both mentally and physically. More realistic is a more defensive-minded, less offensive-focused Porzingis, and I say that less about the skinny frame and more about the shot blocking ability coupled with the outside game. More than most I am not as high on his ceiling as I think a ton of work has to be done to get there against NBA competition. While he has scouts salivating over what could be, he will take the most amount of 'everything going right' to make a maximum impact.

Paolo - I very much could see the case for the Magic taking Paolo 1st overall. He would help stretch the floor and could potentially give the Magic that potential #1 scorer they need most. His tape looks the part of an NBA star, and I'm sure that's why a lot have him labelled as their guy. That said, I don't think the Magic will ultimately agree with this assessment. He doesn't fit into our FO's typical preferences of length and 2-way player/defense, and his style of play mirrors some players in the NBA that put up big numbers but ultimately don't help their teams win games. A colleague whose opinion I hold in high regard has Paolo a tier below the other two and says he could see his game translating into "a less physical Carlos Boozer...which will be a valuable contributor but ultimately isn't worth the top pick the same way Chet and Jabari do".

John Hammond has said they could make the pick today if they had to, and unless this is just fake bravado I've been thinking a lot about who they could be that sure about at this stage before interviews and workouts. Jabari ticks all the boxes they value so he is the easy choice on paper, but Chet has a longer history as a heralded prospect for someone to convince themselves of drafting. Selfishly I hope it's Jabari simply because I see a shorter road to him being a contributor and I think the other players deserve someone who elevates their games from day 1, but will support any of the 3 we end up with.


your friend is way off base. his game doesnt resemble Boozer's at all. Boozer was old school forward, no range, not very athletic. someone that would just bang down low for rebounds and baskets.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#931 » by basketballRob » Wed Jun 1, 2022 11:21 pm

tiderulz wrote:
Black and Blue wrote:The more I've watched the three options, the more I can see what they *could* become:

Jabari - I do see what a lot have said about his issues with handles and passing. I think between these two improvement areas, the easier to correct by far is the passing ability. A smart offensive system will help him with reads and becoming more instinctual. I have confidence this can be improved greatly. The more I look at Jabari and where his game could go, the more I think a Klay Thompson-type career is a very achievable goal for Jabari. He can be a quality #2 with the chance to take over games as a #1 when able/needed. If he can improve his handles the sky is the limit but that WILL be an uphill battle. He is certainly worth the number 1 pick, even with his difficulties dribbling.

Chet - His numbers and college tape are tantalizing, but like many I worry about how his game will translate against NBA level competition. While his frame concerns are possibly overblown they will be something a team that drafts him will have to address, and as strong-willed as he can be I do see him deferring a lot when I watch college tape. People have thrown out the Pau Gasol comp and I think that is absolutely pie-in-the-sky best case scenario, but it will take a lot to get him there both mentally and physically. More realistic is a more defensive-minded, less offensive-focused Porzingis, and I say that less about the skinny frame and more about the shot blocking ability coupled with the outside game. More than most I am not as high on his ceiling as I think a ton of work has to be done to get there against NBA competition. While he has scouts salivating over what could be, he will take the most amount of 'everything going right' to make a maximum impact.

Paolo - I very much could see the case for the Magic taking Paolo 1st overall. He would help stretch the floor and could potentially give the Magic that potential #1 scorer they need most. His tape looks the part of an NBA star, and I'm sure that's why a lot have him labelled as their guy. That said, I don't think the Magic will ultimately agree with this assessment. He doesn't fit into our FO's typical preferences of length and 2-way player/defense, and his style of play mirrors some players in the NBA that put up big numbers but ultimately don't help their teams win games. A colleague whose opinion I hold in high regard has Paolo a tier below the other two and says he could see his game translating into "a less physical Carlos Boozer...which will be a valuable contributor but ultimately isn't worth the top pick the same way Chet and Jabari do".

John Hammond has said they could make the pick today if they had to, and unless this is just fake bravado I've been thinking a lot about who they could be that sure about at this stage before interviews and workouts. Jabari ticks all the boxes they value so he is the easy choice on paper, but Chet has a longer history as a heralded prospect for someone to convince themselves of drafting. Selfishly I hope it's Jabari simply because I see a shorter road to him being a contributor and I think the other players deserve someone who elevates their games from day 1, but will support any of the 3 we end up with.


your friend is way off base. his game doesnt resemble Boozer's at all. Boozer was old school forward, no range, not very athletic. someone that would just bang down low for rebounds and baskets.
Boozer has a couple of sons that will be coming out in the class of 2025 that are going to be good. Just brought them up while we're talking about Carlos.

The Flagg bros. are pretty good in the class of 2025 too. They're transferring to Montverde next season.

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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#932 » by Black and Blue » Thu Jun 2, 2022 2:07 am

tiderulz wrote:
Black and Blue wrote:The more I've watched the three options, the more I can see what they *could* become:

Jabari - I do see what a lot have said about his issues with handles and passing. I think between these two improvement areas, the easier to correct by far is the passing ability. A smart offensive system will help him with reads and becoming more instinctual. I have confidence this can be improved greatly. The more I look at Jabari and where his game could go, the more I think a Klay Thompson-type career is a very achievable goal for Jabari. He can be a quality #2 with the chance to take over games as a #1 when able/needed. If he can improve his handles the sky is the limit but that WILL be an uphill battle. He is certainly worth the number 1 pick, even with his difficulties dribbling.

Chet - His numbers and college tape are tantalizing, but like many I worry about how his game will translate against NBA level competition. While his frame concerns are possibly overblown they will be something a team that drafts him will have to address, and as strong-willed as he can be I do see him deferring a lot when I watch college tape. People have thrown out the Pau Gasol comp and I think that is absolutely pie-in-the-sky best case scenario, but it will take a lot to get him there both mentally and physically. More realistic is a more defensive-minded, less offensive-focused Porzingis, and I say that less about the skinny frame and more about the shot blocking ability coupled with the outside game. More than most I am not as high on his ceiling as I think a ton of work has to be done to get there against NBA competition. While he has scouts salivating over what could be, he will take the most amount of 'everything going right' to make a maximum impact.

Paolo - I very much could see the case for the Magic taking Paolo 1st overall. He would help stretch the floor and could potentially give the Magic that potential #1 scorer they need most. His tape looks the part of an NBA star, and I'm sure that's why a lot have him labelled as their guy. That said, I don't think the Magic will ultimately agree with this assessment. He doesn't fit into our FO's typical preferences of length and 2-way player/defense, and his style of play mirrors some players in the NBA that put up big numbers but ultimately don't help their teams win games. A colleague whose opinion I hold in high regard has Paolo a tier below the other two and says he could see his game translating into "a less physical Carlos Boozer...which will be a valuable contributor but ultimately isn't worth the top pick the same way Chet and Jabari do".

John Hammond has said they could make the pick today if they had to, and unless this is just fake bravado I've been thinking a lot about who they could be that sure about at this stage before interviews and workouts. Jabari ticks all the boxes they value so he is the easy choice on paper, but Chet has a longer history as a heralded prospect for someone to convince themselves of drafting. Selfishly I hope it's Jabari simply because I see a shorter road to him being a contributor and I think the other players deserve someone who elevates their games from day 1, but will support any of the 3 we end up with.


your friend is way off base. his game doesnt resemble Boozer's at all. Boozer was old school forward, no range, not very athletic. someone that would just bang down low for rebounds and baskets.


Do a quick search on “Paolo Banchero Carlos Boozer” and take a look at how many people are saying it. It’s everywhere. They have both publicly acknowledged it. Even nba.com’s official draft profile of him states it. Obviously my friend isn’t the only one as the main comps almost everyone has for Banchero right now are Julius Randle, Chris Webber and Carlos Boozer.

That doesn’t make it 100% what will happen per se, as we aren’t sure what his game will develop into in the nba and all these player comps are guesses. It’s just one of the main comps right now.

If you want more info on how this comp could be possible, here is an article on it specifically that also references a YouTube clip someone made of their comparisons:

https://balldurham.com/2021/02/05/duke-basketball-signee-shows-legend/amp/
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#933 » by Black and Blue » Thu Jun 2, 2022 2:10 am

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tiderulz wrote:
Black and Blue wrote:The more I've watched the three options, the more I can see what they *could* become:

Jabari - I do see what a lot have said about his issues with handles and passing. I think between these two improvement areas, the easier to correct by far is the passing ability. A smart offensive system will help him with reads and becoming more instinctual. I have confidence this can be improved greatly. The more I look at Jabari and where his game could go, the more I think a Klay Thompson-type career is a very achievable goal for Jabari. He can be a quality #2 with the chance to take over games as a #1 when able/needed. If he can improve his handles the sky is the limit but that WILL be an uphill battle. He is certainly worth the number 1 pick, even with his difficulties dribbling.

Chet - His numbers and college tape are tantalizing, but like many I worry about how his game will translate against NBA level competition. While his frame concerns are possibly overblown they will be something a team that drafts him will have to address, and as strong-willed as he can be I do see him deferring a lot when I watch college tape. People have thrown out the Pau Gasol comp and I think that is absolutely pie-in-the-sky best case scenario, but it will take a lot to get him there both mentally and physically. More realistic is a more defensive-minded, less offensive-focused Porzingis, and I say that less about the skinny frame and more about the shot blocking ability coupled with the outside game. More than most I am not as high on his ceiling as I think a ton of work has to be done to get there against NBA competition. While he has scouts salivating over what could be, he will take the most amount of 'everything going right' to make a maximum impact.

Paolo - I very much could see the case for the Magic taking Paolo 1st overall. He would help stretch the floor and could potentially give the Magic that potential #1 scorer they need most. His tape looks the part of an NBA star, and I'm sure that's why a lot have him labelled as their guy. That said, I don't think the Magic will ultimately agree with this assessment. He doesn't fit into our FO's typical preferences of length and 2-way player/defense, and his style of play mirrors some players in the NBA that put up big numbers but ultimately don't help their teams win games. A colleague whose opinion I hold in high regard has Paolo a tier below the other two and says he could see his game translating into "a less physical Carlos Boozer...which will be a valuable contributor but ultimately isn't worth the top pick the same way Chet and Jabari do".

John Hammond has said they could make the pick today if they had to, and unless this is just fake bravado I've been thinking a lot about who they could be that sure about at this stage before interviews and workouts. Jabari ticks all the boxes they value so he is the easy choice on paper, but Chet has a longer history as a heralded prospect for someone to convince themselves of drafting. Selfishly I hope it's Jabari simply because I see a shorter road to him being a contributor and I think the other players deserve someone who elevates their games from day 1, but will support any of the 3 we end up with.


your friend is way off base. his game doesnt resemble Boozer's at all. Boozer was old school forward, no range, not very athletic. someone that would just bang down low for rebounds and baskets.
Boozer has a couple of sons that will be coming out in the class of 2025 that are going to be good. Just brought them up while we're talking about Carlos.

The Flagg bros. are pretty good in the class of 2025 too. They're transferring to Montverde next season.



I’ve been hearing about them! Banchero also tweeted about them recently:

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Post#934 » by RookieStar » Thu Jun 2, 2022 2:52 am

Has it been more than a week since we knew we got the 1st pick? Yet there aren't even smoke ok who is coming for the workouts? We also don't have even fake news on how the 2nd rounders fared?
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Post#935 » by basketballRob » Thu Jun 2, 2022 8:21 am

I see Chet has around 28% of the vote here and surprisingly I think he only would get around the same percentage from Houston or Detroit fans. I get the vibe that the majority of fans in the top 5 just don't want anything to do with him. I also think that almost all of them want the Magic to pick him.

My opinion is based on what Detroit fans are saying here and Houston fans on Reddit.

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Post#937 » by basketballRob » Thu Jun 2, 2022 10:27 am

The Rockets podcast thinks Jabari is the guy.


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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#938 » by zaymon » Thu Jun 2, 2022 10:32 am

Black and Blue wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
Black and Blue wrote:The more I've watched the three options, the more I can see what they *could* become:

Jabari - I do see what a lot have said about his issues with handles and passing. I think between these two improvement areas, the easier to correct by far is the passing ability. A smart offensive system will help him with reads and becoming more instinctual. I have confidence this can be improved greatly. The more I look at Jabari and where his game could go, the more I think a Klay Thompson-type career is a very achievable goal for Jabari. He can be a quality #2 with the chance to take over games as a #1 when able/needed. If he can improve his handles the sky is the limit but that WILL be an uphill battle. He is certainly worth the number 1 pick, even with his difficulties dribbling.

Chet - His numbers and college tape are tantalizing, but like many I worry about how his game will translate against NBA level competition. While his frame concerns are possibly overblown they will be something a team that drafts him will have to address, and as strong-willed as he can be I do see him deferring a lot when I watch college tape. People have thrown out the Pau Gasol comp and I think that is absolutely pie-in-the-sky best case scenario, but it will take a lot to get him there both mentally and physically. More realistic is a more defensive-minded, less offensive-focused Porzingis, and I say that less about the skinny frame and more about the shot blocking ability coupled with the outside game. More than most I am not as high on his ceiling as I think a ton of work has to be done to get there against NBA competition. While he has scouts salivating over what could be, he will take the most amount of 'everything going right' to make a maximum impact.

Paolo - I very much could see the case for the Magic taking Paolo 1st overall. He would help stretch the floor and could potentially give the Magic that potential #1 scorer they need most. His tape looks the part of an NBA star, and I'm sure that's why a lot have him labelled as their guy. That said, I don't think the Magic will ultimately agree with this assessment. He doesn't fit into our FO's typical preferences of length and 2-way player/defense, and his style of play mirrors some players in the NBA that put up big numbers but ultimately don't help their teams win games. A colleague whose opinion I hold in high regard has Paolo a tier below the other two and says he could see his game translating into "a less physical Carlos Boozer...which will be a valuable contributor but ultimately isn't worth the top pick the same way Chet and Jabari do".

John Hammond has said they could make the pick today if they had to, and unless this is just fake bravado I've been thinking a lot about who they could be that sure about at this stage before interviews and workouts. Jabari ticks all the boxes they value so he is the easy choice on paper, but Chet has a longer history as a heralded prospect for someone to convince themselves of drafting. Selfishly I hope it's Jabari simply because I see a shorter road to him being a contributor and I think the other players deserve someone who elevates their games from day 1, but will support any of the 3 we end up with.


your friend is way off base. his game doesnt resemble Boozer's at all. Boozer was old school forward, no range, not very athletic. someone that would just bang down low for rebounds and baskets.


Do a quick search on “Paolo Banchero Carlos Boozer” and take a look at how many people are saying it. It’s everywhere. They have both publicly acknowledged it. Even nba.com’s official draft profile of him states it. Obviously my friend isn’t the only one as the main comps almost everyone has for Banchero right now are Julius Randle, Chris Webber and Carlos Boozer.

That doesn’t make it 100% what will happen per se, as we aren’t sure what his game will develop into in the nba and all these player comps are guesses. It’s just one of the main comps right now.

If you want more info on how this comp could be possible, here is an article on it specifically that also references a YouTube clip someone made of their comparisons:

https://balldurham.com/2021/02/05/duke-basketball-signee-shows-legend/amp/


The clip shows few fade away jumpers, which many players make and some other plays which doesnt even look similar.
In the article there is: "Of course, distinct differences exist as well. Banchero, who hails from Seattle, appears to hold an edge in terms of bounce, handles, and outside shooting." I would also add completely different level of passing and decision making.
Randle and Boozer had totaly different stats coming out of college its hard even to compare them. Carmelo Anthony is much closer.
I dont think Jabari tick all the boxes. He is not a good rim protector, and they value that a lot for a frontcourt player. Klay was heralded as very good passer, and his handle was a lot better. I dont think they are similar.
My money is on Banchero going number 1 !
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#939 » by GelbeWand09 » Thu Jun 2, 2022 10:54 am

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Black and Blue wrote:The more I've watched the three options, the more I can see what they *could* become:

Jabari - I do see what a lot have said about his issues with handles and passing. I think between these two improvement areas, the easier to correct by far is the passing ability. A smart offensive system will help him with reads and becoming more instinctual. I have confidence this can be improved greatly. The more I look at Jabari and where his game could go, the more I think a Klay Thompson-type career is a very achievable goal for Jabari. He can be a quality #2 with the chance to take over games as a #1 when able/needed. If he can improve his handles the sky is the limit but that WILL be an uphill battle. He is certainly worth the number 1 pick, even with his difficulties dribbling.

Chet - His numbers and college tape are tantalizing, but like many I worry about how his game will translate against NBA level competition. While his frame concerns are possibly overblown they will be something a team that drafts him will have to address, and as strong-willed as he can be I do see him deferring a lot when I watch college tape. People have thrown out the Pau Gasol comp and I think that is absolutely pie-in-the-sky best case scenario, but it will take a lot to get him there both mentally and physically. More realistic is a more defensive-minded, less offensive-focused Porzingis, and I say that less about the skinny frame and more about the shot blocking ability coupled with the outside game. More than most I am not as high on his ceiling as I think a ton of work has to be done to get there against NBA competition. While he has scouts salivating over what could be, he will take the most amount of 'everything going right' to make a maximum impact.

Paolo - I very much could see the case for the Magic taking Paolo 1st overall. He would help stretch the floor and could potentially give the Magic that potential #1 scorer they need most. His tape looks the part of an NBA star, and I'm sure that's why a lot have him labelled as their guy. That said, I don't think the Magic will ultimately agree with this assessment. He doesn't fit into our FO's typical preferences of length and 2-way player/defense, and his style of play mirrors some players in the NBA that put up big numbers but ultimately don't help their teams win games. A colleague whose opinion I hold in high regard has Paolo a tier below the other two and says he could see his game translating into "a less physical Carlos Boozer...which will be a valuable contributor but ultimately isn't worth the top pick the same way Chet and Jabari do".

John Hammond has said they could make the pick today if they had to, and unless this is just fake bravado I've been thinking a lot about who they could be that sure about at this stage before interviews and workouts. Jabari ticks all the boxes they value so he is the easy choice on paper, but Chet has a longer history as a heralded prospect for someone to convince themselves of drafting. Selfishly I hope it's Jabari simply because I see a shorter road to him being a contributor and I think the other players deserve someone who elevates their games from day 1, but will support any of the 3 we end up with.


your friend is way off base. his game doesnt resemble Boozer's at all. Boozer was old school forward, no range, not very athletic. someone that would just bang down low for rebounds and baskets.


Do a quick search on “Paolo Banchero Carlos Boozer” and take a look at how many people are saying it. It’s everywhere. They have both publicly acknowledged it. Even nba.com’s official draft profile of him states it. Obviously my friend isn’t the only one as the main comps almost everyone has for Banchero right now are Julius Randle, Chris Webber and Carlos Boozer.

That doesn’t make it 100% what will happen per se, as we aren’t sure what his game will develop into in the nba and all these player comps are guesses. It’s just one of the main comps right now.

If you want more info on how this comp could be possible, here is an article on it specifically that also references a YouTube clip someone made of their comparisons:

https://balldurham.com/2021/02/05/duke-basketball-signee-shows-legend/amp/


Dont see it at all. For me he plays much more like Tatum or Melo. I just dont know if he is explosive & long enough to play like them effectively. Because he doesnt have the 1st step like them & he doesnt have the length to finish with high efficiency like Tatum & his advantage in weight/strentgh he rarely uses. If he cant get by anyone on a consistent level in the NBA, i can see the Randle comparison, but with better passing.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#940 » by ucfmay2000 » Thu Jun 2, 2022 11:30 am

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Really interesting. They plan to trade down? Or trying to get another top 5 pick?

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