Official UCF Sports Thread - Basketball: NIT Bid? Football: Spring Practice Underway

[craig01]

Man, the Nebraska fan base has really turned on Scott Frost.

Yeah, been following this.

I think there is now a consensus opinion that Frost did not bring a quality coaching staff.

There are also opinions that Frost and his style of offense can’t succeed.

There was a local columnist on a Omaha radio station voicing concerns that after 20 games Frost is still complaining about culture.

Folks are saying that the UCF 13-0 year was the result of striking gold (Milton) and inheriting a very talented roster.

The fanbase is wildly torn between what Nebraska used to be, what they should be, and what is realistic moving forward.

Despite their history, Nebraska needs to realize that today as a program they are more like Iowa and Michigan State, and don’t have the vast recruiting resources or appeal like the other blue-blood programs.

[tiderulz]

Man, the Nebraska fan base has really turned on Scott Frost.

Yeah, been following this.

I think there is now a consensus opinion that Frost did not bring a quality coaching staff.

There are also opinions that Frost and his style of offense can’t succeed.

There was a local columnist on a Omaha radio station voicing concerns that after 20 games Frost is still complaining about culture.

Folks are saying that the UCF 13-0 year was the result of striking gold (Milton) and inheriting a very talented roster.

The fanbase is wildly torn between what Nebraska used to be, what they should be, and what is realistic moving forward.

Despite their history, Nebraska needs to realize that today as a program they are more like Iowa and Michigan State, and don’t have the vast recruiting resources or appeal like the other blue-blood programs.

Frost hasnt helped himself by being smarmy with the media.

Read on Twitter

or criticizing players warming up in hoodies, while in a hoodie himself. his handling of Maurice Washington (playing player who faced felony child pornography charges). worse record than Riley after same amount of games and he is losing his lockerroom,

[UCF]

My happy day will come when Nebraska’s AD is fired or asked to “retire”

[Xatticus]

My happy day will come when Nebraska’s AD is fired or asked to “retire”

I heard some time back that it was just a matter of time before Moos is forced out, but it has nothing to do with the hiring of Frost.

[craig01]

A bit off topic, but Willie Taggart was fired.

It was just a matter of when.

[silent1900]

A bit off topic, but Willie Taggart was fired.

It was just a matter of when.

I read that they raised $20M in private donations to pay for his buyout. A lot of conversations to be had around that, but I will say I’ll complain a little less about that embarrassing lazy river we’re building.

[UCF]

He was a bad hire and a complete program drain. The FSU athletic department is a mess. I don’t understand how anyone hires this guy with his record for a better job (twice).

[Knightro]

I wonder if we’ll get another year with our coach. DW smartly made the buyout substantial.

I like Heupel and think he's done a very good job. But if he leaves, he leaves. Not going to lose sleep over it.

For better or worse, UCF must continue to embrace that they're always going to be a stepping stone job and understand that is perfectly fine. The foundation of speed and athleticism has been established and if Heupel leaves, it really shouldn't be that difficult to continue to have great success.

Danny White should always position the school (and he's 2-for-2 on this so I'm optimistic) as a place for up and coming head coaches rather than foolishly try to chase "stability" by pursuing guys who are taking a step backwards in their coaching careers.

Give me a high end offensive coordinator from a P5 program 100 times out of 100 over a recently fired P5 head coach. You are seeing this play out with USF and Charlie Strong. You get a coach who was at bigger schools and he thinks he's better than the school he's at and that eventually permeates throughout the program.

If Power 5 schools don't want to pursue UCF's head coach after his first couple of seasons, then he probably isn't doing a very good job.

[UCF]

10 million dollar buyout would be a nice benefit if it did happen. Danny has done a great job hiring coaches.

[Knightro]

Where it gets really interesting for me is what UCF decides to do with Randy Shannon after this year.

UCF only paid him 300K a year for 2018 and 2019 because he was still owed 1.1M per year in 2018 and 2019 from his Gators buyout.

But that buyout money runs out after this season and his salary is set to increase to 1.3M (1M base salary for 2020 and a 300K retention bonus paid in Feb 2020).

Long story short, UCF is going to have to come up with $1M to retain Randy Shannon and 1.3M per year would make him the highest paid G5 assistant by a WIDE margin (the current top paid G5 assistant makes about 600K).

I wonder if UCF might let him walk...

[dsg2003mach1]

Where it gets really interesting for me is what UCF decides to do with Randy Shannon after this year.

UCF only paid him 300K a year for 2018 and 2019 because he was still owed 1.1M per year in 2018 and 2019 from his Gators buyout.

But that buyout money runs out after this season and his salary is set to increase to 1.3M (1M base salary for 2020 and a 300K retention bonus paid in Feb 2020).

Long story short, UCF is going to have to come up with $1M to retain Randy Shannon and 1.3M per year would make him the highest paid G5 assistant by a WIDE margin (the current top paid G5 assistant makes about 600K).

I wonder if UCF might let him walk...

then when you consider the defense only seems to make worthwhile adjustments at the half you kind of have to wonder. It seems like theyve had issues with stopping the rush or a qb that can scramble for a long time

[UCF]

I don’t see how we can afford to spend that kind of cash for a coordinator. Maybe the season ticket price increase can cover it lol

[Knightro]

Fun fact or not so fun fact depending on your perspective...

UCF has NEVER won at Tulsa in football or in men's basketball.

Football 0-4
October 26th, 2008: Lost 49-19
November 17th, 2012: Lost 23-21
December 1st, 2012: Lost 33-27 (Conference USA Championship Game)
November 7th, 2015: Lost 45-30

Basketball 0-10
1981, 1989, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2012, 2016, 2017, 2018

[silent1900]

Fun fact or not so fun fact depending on your perspective...

UCF has NEVER won at Tulsa in football or in men's basketball.

Football 0-4
October 26th, 2008: Lost 49-19
November 17th, 2012: Lost 23-21
December 1st, 2012: Lost 33-27 (Conference USA Championship Game)
November 7th, 2015: Lost 45-30

Basketball 0-10
1981, 1989, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2012, 2016, 2017, 2018

This is 100% not a fun fact.

[Knightro]

This is 100% not a fun fact.

I worked for UCF athletics for four years from 2011-2014, so I was actually in attendance for both of those Tulsa losses in 2012.

Jerry O'Neill nearly get into a physical altercation with a couple of drunk Tulsa fans after that first loss. It was low key hilarious.

[UCF]

I remember hating playing them, always. Hopefully Friday we change that win column to a 1. I am surprised in the AAC they have not had much success given how good they were in CUSA for so many years.

[silent1900]

I remember hating playing them, always. Hopefully Friday we change that win column to a 1. I am surprised in the AAC they have not had much success given how good they were in CUSA for so many years.

This Tulsa squad is better than their record, I think. Hope the team comes out ready tomorrow.

[craig01]

I remember hating playing them, always. Hopefully Friday we change that win column to a 1. I am surprised in the AAC they have not had much success given how good they were in CUSA for so many years.

This Tulsa squad is better than their record, I think. Hope the team comes out ready tomorrow.

Tulsa had SMU and Memphis on the ropes and easily could have won those games.

They were also competitive against UC until the final few minutes.

As you said, Ucf better be ready.

[craig01]

While watching the USF Temple game last night, the obvious question is how long does USF ride with Charlie Strong?

His buyout is pretty stiff, but going like they have been, soon they won’t even have 10k actually attend games.

Question is (like FSU) can they afford not to make a change?

I hope he stays. Lol

[UCF]

They are trying to afford a practice facility. If they fire him that’s basically taking them back to zero if the contract amounts I’ve seen are accurate.