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Re: Shams: The season is suspended / Coronavirus Thread 

Post#941 » by spinedoc » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:58 pm

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spinedoc wrote:Going into April, we are now being groomed that a death rate of 100K to 200K is expected and somehow a success, because its not 2 Million? I never thought we would be in this place, especially this soon. Okay, now I'm starting to get stressed.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/


This site shows all the updated models that Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx have been using to make their predictions. As of Sunday night, the projections were 100k-200k deaths by July. Today the range is now about 36k to 150k deaths by August 1st, median range around 84K. Still a grim outlook, but as we get more data, it is showing that the social distancing is working. We can prevent a lot of this and change this outcome as much as we can if we all do our part to hunker down.

This is a pretty good site to see where we're at by state. Florida's cases are rising, but their peak won't hit until around early May. New York is about to peak in 8-9 days. They should recover quicker than other states, but their hospitals are taking a beating right now.


That's a good site, thank you. TN is nearly as bad as FL, I wouldn't have thought that. I know KY put out a state order to stay at home early, they are doing much better. I also knew GA was having some issues, but thought we were better than them right now. FL I figured was a mess given the news coming out of there with spring break, the beaches, and even allowing bike week to take place. All of TN, GA, and FL have failed to give state wide orders vs KY. I figured we were doing better than you guys because the Governor in TN isn't contradicting the mayors like FL is experiencing. Its confusing here though, a place like the Maytag plant is allowed to stay open, but close down small business like hair dressers and such. Meanwhile, the Volkswagon plant down the road closed voluntarily for two weeks, but they are obviously German owned. There isn't much rhyme or reason, but you can tell a lot more people are taking it very seriously here. Keep your spirits up and just remember your oath, this is a calling my brother. Do what you can, when you can, make a difference. :D

Edit: Just found out that TN Governor issues a "safer at home" executive order. Good, hope it makes a big difference. I still only have 9 cases in my county, and certainly don't want anymore.
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Post#942 » by Bensational » Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:22 pm

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Gomagic44 wrote:Relax, everything is under control by the smart men in the rooms with all the control. Or that's what I thought. This whole thing makes me think American exceptionalism is a joke.
spinedoc wrote:Going into April, we are now being groomed that a death rate of 100K to 200K is expected and somehow a success, because its not 2 Million? I never thought we would be in this place, especially this soon. Okay, now I'm starting to get stressed.


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Just last week they were grooming the country to sacrifice themselves and grandparents for the stock market so I guess its not unexpected, and it only took them about 2 weeks of them taking this serious to get there. But this is something we cannot accept and push aside like its par for the course. Just goes to show what they deem important.


I just can't believe that in the face of condemning 100-200K American lives, Trump has the nerve to play games with who the fed will help. His comments about not calling Washington and Michigan... states filled with citizens of his own country that he is responsible for, and he insinuates he won't send national resources their way because 'they're not nice'. He's holding lives at ransom, he refused to invoke the defense production act for weeks until now (because he believed it was 'nationalising' private companies).

Americans are at their worst when they have to look after their own.
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Post#943 » by Gomagic44 » Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:48 pm

Update: no update. My CEO says maybe they lost my sample. I asked if I'm one of the 6 in lake county pending. She hopes. USA, NUMBA WON!

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Post#944 » by Gomagic44 » Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:50 pm

But Desantis is is a mini Trump! Shouldn't my results matter?!

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Post#945 » by spinedoc » Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:31 pm

Bensational wrote:Americans are at their worst when they have to look after their own.


Don't even get me started, lol. I have volumes to say on the subject. We have become an apathetic, ignorant, self absorbed people. We have the government that we deserve, its a reflection of who we are, not the other way around.
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Post#946 » by thelead » Wed Apr 1, 2020 12:58 am

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Bensational wrote:Americans are at their worst when they have to look after their own.


Don't even get me started, lol. I have volumes to say on the subject. We have become an apathetic, ignorant, self absorbed people. We have the government that we deserve, its a reflection of who we are, not the other way around.

Where can I reasonably move to? I don't want to live in a country that idolizes people like Trump and Honey Boo Boo... and yes, I put those two in the same group; along with Kanye, the Kardashians and every self absorbed 'star' that people idolize.

I feel like this is a world issue at this point when you look at the 'leaders' around the globe.

People are trained to be stupid from birth.
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Post#947 » by Gomagic44 » Wed Apr 1, 2020 1:04 am

Canada. But they won't take you unless you have something to offer. Doctor, nurse, engineer? You have a degree?
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spinedoc wrote:
Bensational wrote:Americans are at their worst when they have to look after their own.


Don't even get me started, lol. I have volumes to say on the subject. We have become an apathetic, ignorant, self absorbed people. We have the government that we deserve, its a reflection of who we are, not the other way around.

Where can I reasonably move to? I don't want to live in a country that idolizes people like Trump and Honey Boo Boo... and yes, I put those two in the same group; along with Kanye, the Kardashians and every self absorbed 'star' that people idolize.

I feel like this is a world issue at this point when you look at the 'leaders' around the globe.

People are trained to be stupid from birth.


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Post#948 » by spinedoc » Wed Apr 1, 2020 1:09 am

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spinedoc wrote:
Bensational wrote:Americans are at their worst when they have to look after their own.


Don't even get me started, lol. I have volumes to say on the subject. We have become an apathetic, ignorant, self absorbed people. We have the government that we deserve, its a reflection of who we are, not the other way around.

Where can I reasonably move to? I don't want to live in a country that idolizes people like Trump and Honey Boo Boo... and yes, I put those two in the same group; along with Kanye, the Kardashians and every self absorbed 'star' that people idolize.

I feel like this is a world issue at this point when you look at the 'leaders' around the globe.

People are trained to be stupid from birth.


My suggestion is to stay, try and make a difference. Throw the pebble in the pond whether you can see the ripples or not. Take a stand, get involved, be kind, but chastise when you must. And more importantly of all, go vote, tell others to vote as well, and then be as critical as you can. But if all else fails, seriously?, I've always dreamed of a second home in the Netherlands. In my humble opinion, the most down to earth, grounded people on the planet. Now, with close proximity and pandemics, I'm going to probably have more thought on that subject. :wink:
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Post#949 » by nymets1 » Wed Apr 1, 2020 1:16 am

Last night's number's as of 9pm from bing.com/covid

USA-163,479 confirmed cases- 5604 recoveries- Recoveries went from 4435 to 5604
Florida- 5704 confirmed cases- Still have 0 recoveries, CMON FLORIDA
Seminole county- 88 confirmed cases, orange county- 300 confirmed cases

California- 6388 confirmed cases
Georgia- 3082 confirmed cases
Illinois- 5057 confirmed cases
Louisana- 4025 confirmed cases
Massachussets- 5752 confirmed cases
Michigan- 6498 confirmed cases
New jersey- 16,636 confirmed cases
Pennsylvania- 4087 confirmed cases
Texas- 2877 confirmed cases
Washington- 5298 confirmed cases
New York- 66,497 confirmed cases

China- 76052 recoveries but still 2161 active cases
South Korea- 5288 recoveries but still 4275 active cases
Italy- 101,739 confirmed cases( 14,620 recoveries but still 75,528 active cases)
Spain- 87,956 confirmed cases( 16,780 recoveries but still 63,460 active cases)

So I noticed with Georgia, Illinois, Louisana, New Jersey, Texas there are small increases in their confirmed cases around 4000 each per state while the other top states are still increasing around 10000 new confirmed cases per day. So lets keep an eye on Georgia, Illinois, Louisana, New Jersey and Texas over the next few days if maybe those states have reached a peak and their confirmed cases per day maybe continue to drop or if any of these states shoot up in confirmed cases the next day.

Today's numbers as of 9:15 pm from bing.com/covid

USA- 188,633 confirmed cases- 6913 recoveries, Recoveries went from 5604 to 6913
Florida- 6791 confirmed cases- We still have 0 recoveries
Seminole county- 103 confirmed cases, Orange county- 373 confirmed cases

California- 7477 confirmed cases
Georgia- 4117 confirmed cases
Illinois- 5994 confirmed cases
Louisana- 5237 confirmed cases
Massachussets- 6620 confirmed cases
Michigan- 7615 confirmed cases
New Jersey- 18,696 confirmed cases
Pennsylvania- 4843 confirmed cases
Texas- 3266 confirmed cases
Washington- 5561 confirmed cases
New York- 75,795 confirmed cases

China- 76052 recoveries but still 2161 active cases
South Korea-5408 recoveries but still 4216 active cases
Italy-105,792 active cases( 15,729 recoveries but still 77,635 active cases)
Spain- 95,923 active cases( 19,259 recoveries but still 68,200 active cases)

Unfortunately Georgia and Illinois had a surge today in confirmed cases after each only went up around 400 confirmed cases yesterday. New Jersey and Texas has now had 2 straight days of small increases in confirmed cases.

Washington's confirmed cases only went up from 5298 to 5561

So now I'm going to be watching New Jersey, Texas and Washington.

I just refreshed the page on bing.com/ covid and the USA recoveries went up from 6913 to 7068 so now I'll change my update from 9pm to 9:15 pm.
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Post#950 » by Optimus_Steel » Wed Apr 1, 2020 1:26 am

spinedoc wrote:
Bensational wrote:Americans are at their worst when they have to look after their own.


Don't even get me started, lol. I have volumes to say on the subject. We have become an apathetic, ignorant, self absorbed people. We have the government that we deserve, its a reflection of who we are, not the other way around.
Pains how we treat our own citizens like trash. Caring about the well-being and quality of life of our people is frowned upon because all that matters is making a quick buck or making sure that quarterly report is good.
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Post#951 » by thelead » Wed Apr 1, 2020 1:43 am

Gomagic44 wrote:Canada. But they won't take you unless you have something to offer. Doctor, nurse, engineer? You have a degree?
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spinedoc wrote:
Don't even get me started, lol. I have volumes to say on the subject. We have become an apathetic, ignorant, self absorbed people. We have the government that we deserve, its a reflection of who we are, not the other way around.

Where can I reasonably move to? I don't want to live in a country that idolizes people like Trump and Honey Boo Boo... and yes, I put those two in the same group; along with Kanye, the Kardashians and every self absorbed 'star' that people idolize.

I feel like this is a world issue at this point when you look at the 'leaders' around the globe.

People are trained to be stupid from birth.


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Luckily, I would qualify based on your list but it's cold up there :lol:
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Post#952 » by thelead » Wed Apr 1, 2020 1:45 am

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thelead wrote:
spinedoc wrote:
Don't even get me started, lol. I have volumes to say on the subject. We have become an apathetic, ignorant, self absorbed people. We have the government that we deserve, its a reflection of who we are, not the other way around.

Where can I reasonably move to? I don't want to live in a country that idolizes people like Trump and Honey Boo Boo... and yes, I put those two in the same group; along with Kanye, the Kardashians and every self absorbed 'star' that people idolize.

I feel like this is a world issue at this point when you look at the 'leaders' around the globe.

People are trained to be stupid from birth.


My suggestion is to stay, try and make a difference. Throw the pebble in the pond whether you can see the ripples or not. Take a stand, get involved, be kind, but chastise when you must. And more importantly of all, go vote, tell others to vote as well, and then be as critical as you can. But if all else fails, seriously?, I've always dreamed of a second home in the Netherlands. In my humble opinion, the most down to earth, grounded people on the planet. Now, with close proximity and pandemics, I'm going to probably have more thought on that subject. :wink:


I have thought about getting into politics but, to be honest, the money just isn't there (unless you're corrupt) and kids aren't cheap to raise :lol:
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Post#953 » by Optimus_Steel » Wed Apr 1, 2020 1:45 am

thelead wrote:
spinedoc wrote:
Bensational wrote:Americans are at their worst when they have to look after their own.


Don't even get me started, lol. I have volumes to say on the subject. We have become an apathetic, ignorant, self absorbed people. We have the government that we deserve, its a reflection of who we are, not the other way around.

Where can I reasonably move to? I don't want to live in a country that idolizes people like Trump and Honey Boo Boo... and yes, I put those two in the same group; along with Kanye, the Kardashians and every self absorbed 'star' that people idolize.

I feel like this is a world issue at this point when you look at the 'leaders' around the globe.

People are trained to be stupid from birth.
People aren't taught critical thinking skills. People don't question things, just take it at face value and they don't bother doing research either. We got a generation of docile people in constant distraction.
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Post#954 » by spinedoc » Wed Apr 1, 2020 1:54 am

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spinedoc wrote:
thelead wrote:Where can I reasonably move to? I don't want to live in a country that idolizes people like Trump and Honey Boo Boo... and yes, I put those two in the same group; along with Kanye, the Kardashians and every self absorbed 'star' that people idolize.

I feel like this is a world issue at this point when you look at the 'leaders' around the globe.

People are trained to be stupid from birth.


My suggestion is to stay, try and make a difference. Throw the pebble in the pond whether you can see the ripples or not. Take a stand, get involved, be kind, but chastise when you must. And more importantly of all, go vote, tell others to vote as well, and then be as critical as you can. But if all else fails, seriously?, I've always dreamed of a second home in the Netherlands. In my humble opinion, the most down to earth, grounded people on the planet. Now, with close proximity and pandemics, I'm going to probably have more thought on that subject. :wink:


I have thought about getting into politics but, to be honest, the money just isn't there (unless you're corrupt) and kids aren't cheap to raise :lol:


I didn't mean to get into politics. I was talking about being a decent citizen. 8-)
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Post#955 » by thelead » Wed Apr 1, 2020 2:07 am

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thelead wrote:
spinedoc wrote:
My suggestion is to stay, try and make a difference. Throw the pebble in the pond whether you can see the ripples or not. Take a stand, get involved, be kind, but chastise when you must. And more importantly of all, go vote, tell others to vote as well, and then be as critical as you can. But if all else fails, seriously?, I've always dreamed of a second home in the Netherlands. In my humble opinion, the most down to earth, grounded people on the planet. Now, with close proximity and pandemics, I'm going to probably have more thought on that subject. :wink:


I have thought about getting into politics but, to be honest, the money just isn't there (unless you're corrupt) and kids aren't cheap to raise :lol:


I didn't mean to get into politics. I was talking about being a decent citizen. 8-)


No problem there. Training 2 kids how to be that as well.

The real problem is that our leaders suck; which is why I mentioned politics. One thing that Trump has right is not caring about being politically correct. It's too bad that he is also a POS. We need leaders that are honorable, have a moral compass but also have the ability to call a spade a spade. For example, I identify myself as a (conservative) democrat but democrats trying to shove green new deal agendas into a dire/time sensitive bill is utter crap. The fact that no democrat could call it BS on TV when asked is, quite frankly, BS. Anyway, I've gone off the rails here.
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Post#956 » by Gomagic44 » Wed Apr 1, 2020 2:07 am

It's not a bad idea. I've put a lot of thought into how this will change my own, my family and all of our lives. We need a new generation of people in politics for the right reasons.

For me, not that I was ever overly ambitious, but I want to spend more time with my family. I will learn to live within my means more. I have no desire to work 50+ hours anymore. I'll work 40 and collect food stamps if I have to.

Fever dreams for a week straight with no desire to eat and no ability to touch my loved ones has made me more of a family man.

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Post#958 » by spinedoc » Wed Apr 1, 2020 2:42 am

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thelead wrote:
I have thought about getting into politics but, to be honest, the money just isn't there (unless you're corrupt) and kids aren't cheap to raise :lol:


I didn't mean to get into politics. I was talking about being a decent citizen. 8-)


No problem there. Training 2 kids how to be that as well.

The real problem is that our leaders suck; which is why I mentioned politics. One thing that Trump has right is not caring about being politically correct. It's too bad that he is also a POS. We need leaders that are honorable, have a moral compass but also have the ability to call a spade a spade. For example, I identify myself as a (conservative) democrat but democrats trying to shove green new deal agendas into a dire/time sensitive bill is utter crap. The fact that no democrat could call it BS on TV when asked is, quite frankly, BS. Anyway, I've gone off the rails here.


I agree with everything you said, that's politics and it does suck. The sentence I've highlighted is the one that troubles me though. Not to get off on a tangent here, but I caution you that this is what the label may say, not what is necessarily in the package. Be careful of populism, right or left, its a stones throw away from fascism. I don't want PC to mean we can now be mean to one another either. Sometimes we may need that correctness and its there for a reason.
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Post#959 » by thelead » Wed Apr 1, 2020 2:47 am

spinedoc wrote:
thelead wrote:
spinedoc wrote:
I didn't mean to get into politics. I was talking about being a decent citizen. 8-)


No problem there. Training 2 kids how to be that as well.

The real problem is that our leaders suck; which is why I mentioned politics. One thing that Trump has right is not caring about being politically correct. It's too bad that he is also a POS. We need leaders that are honorable, have a moral compass but also have the ability to call a spade a spade. For example, I identify myself as a (conservative) democrat but democrats trying to shove green new deal agendas into a dire/time sensitive bill is utter crap. The fact that no democrat could call it BS on TV when asked is, quite frankly, BS. Anyway, I've gone off the rails here.


I agree with everything you said, that's politics and it does suck. The sentence I've highlighted is the one that troubles me though. Not to get off on a tangent here, but I caution you that this is what the label may say, not what is necessarily in the package. Be careful of populism, right or left, its a stones throw away from fascism. I don't want PC to mean we can now be mean to one another either. Sometimes we may need that correctness and its there for a reason.


Agreed. That's where the moral compass comes into play.
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Post#960 » by basketballRob » Wed Apr 1, 2020 3:00 am

The best case scenario in the University of Washington's projection for Florida is 5586 deaths by August 4th.


https://covid19.healthdata.org/

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