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Post#961 » by fendilim » Fri Aug 7, 2020 5:26 pm

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Schmitz explained it clearly why Vuc and having stretch bigs really helped us with non shooting threat pgs like fultz and formerly EP.
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Post#963 » by swarlesbarkley » Fri Aug 7, 2020 8:25 pm

Great vid.

He needs to be back in the starting line-up again.
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Post#964 » by KillMonger » Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:42 am

Markelle's shot looks like it's improving at least strength wise......

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before he needed a ton of space just to get it off, at least now he's attempting somewhat contested 3's....progress
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Post#965 » by pinoynurse » Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:24 pm

thanks for the vid. i want to believe in fultz i really do but i am having a hard time seeing it happen without his patented pullup 3. this video gives me some hope. hopefully one day he gets it back.
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Post#966 » by pepe1991 » Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:41 pm

He shoots 5/18 (27,7% ) for 3 since basketball returned. According to nba tracking, all 18 threes were wide open ( closest defender more than 6 feet away)
So shot maybe looks better, efficiency is still same.

According to scouting reports before short college season, he was never known as good outside shooter in highschool. It would be interesting to know would he be good 3 point shooter from nba range and by nba standards, if he never got TOS...
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Post#967 » by zaymon » Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:47 pm

pepe1991 wrote:He shoots 5/18 (27,7% ) for 3 since basketball returned. According to nba tracking, all 18 threes were wide open ( closest defender more than 6 feet away)
So shot maybe looks better, efficiency is still same.

According to scouting reports before short college season, he was never known as good outside shooter in highschool. It would be interesting to know would he be good 3 point shooter from nba range and by nba standards, if he never got TOS...

His free throw percentage was also low. Perhaps he would have problems regardless of TOS. His shooting touch around the rim and in midrange gives a lot of hope though.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Updates Thread 

Post#968 » by Bakomagic » Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:06 pm

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pepe1991 wrote:He shoots 5/18 (27,7% ) for 3 since basketball returned. According to nba tracking, all 18 threes were wide open ( closest defender more than 6 feet away)
So shot maybe looks better, efficiency is still same.

According to scouting reports before short college season, he was never known as good outside shooter in highschool. It would be interesting to know would he be good 3 point shooter from nba range and by nba standards, if he never got TOS...

His free throw percentage was also low. Perhaps he would have problems regardless of TOS. His shooting touch around the rim and in midrange gives a lot of hope though.


Zaymon: We are talking about a 7 game stretch coming into a weird environment, I don't think it's wise to make judgements off seeding games for any players.

Pepe: He hasn't shot well but if you are going to point out How open his shots were, you should also point out which of those shots were desperation heaves from Full or half court, he's taken a lot of those in the bubble.

I was more worried about his lack of aggression in the first few games of the restart but he has started to pick that up even though he's not yet making shots he's capable of. I think we've seen enough this whole season to know that he can already be effective from the midrange and scoring at the rim. The key for Markelle is that he needs to stay aggressive. Good things happen for the Magic when he is attacking the defense.
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Post#969 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:54 pm

pepe1991 wrote:He shoots 5/18 (27,7% ) for 3 since basketball returned. According to nba tracking, all 18 threes were wide open ( closest defender more than 6 feet away)
So shot maybe looks better, efficiency is still same.

According to scouting reports before short college season, he was never known as good outside shooter in highschool. It would be interesting to know would he be good 3 point shooter from nba range and by nba standards, if he never got TOS...


Another thing to watch is his 3 point shot is much different than his mid range shot. He practically chest passes the ball when he shoots a 3 vs his mid range which has some arch motion to it. Have to imagine the TOS/shoulder issues is causing him to shoot it like that.
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Post#970 » by thelead » Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:05 am

pepe1991 wrote:He shoots 5/18 (27,7% ) for 3 since basketball returned. According to nba tracking, all 18 threes were wide open ( closest defender more than 6 feet away)
So shot maybe looks better, efficiency is still same.

According to scouting reports before short college season, he was never known as good outside shooter in highschool. It would be interesting to know would he be good 3 point shooter from nba range and by nba standards, if he never got TOS...

Where do you get your stats? I'm not blaming you but they're almost always wrong. He is 6/16 (37.5%) from 3 since basketball returned while taking 4 or 5 end of quarter threes.
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Post#971 » by pepe1991 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:43 am

thelead wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:He shoots 5/18 (27,7% ) for 3 since basketball returned. According to nba tracking, all 18 threes were wide open ( closest defender more than 6 feet away)
So shot maybe looks better, efficiency is still same.

According to scouting reports before short college season, he was never known as good outside shooter in highschool. It would be interesting to know would he be good 3 point shooter from nba range and by nba standards, if he never got TOS...

Where do you get your stats? I'm not blaming you but they're almost always wrong. He is 6/16 (37.5%) from 3 since basketball returned while taking 4 or 5 end of quarter threes.


You are right, i think i skipped while counting 1 game.
That being said, he made 2 threes in last 5 games. (2/13)
Against Kings and Pacers he went 4/4 for 3.

It's small sample size overall 6/17, but it's still not like he is knocking shots on regular bases nor he is being guarded like somebody who can shoot.
What it seems he can do, however, is to shoot corner threes. Small sample size, but 2 of 6 threes made were from corner.

He is also noticabilly worst mid range shooter since return, part of it is probably fact that teams actually know what he is likes to do.
In last 8 games he shoots 11/31 from mid range. (35%).

Where Fultz struggles are worst is in paint- in non restricted area, as his game is still more style than substance ( spinning jumpshots, fadeaways, running hooks) 7/23 (30%).

Overall Fultz in bubble has been pretty bad. He is one of few Magic rotation players with negative net rating, he is actually 3rd worst in TS% behind Bamba (0 points scored) and Law yet his usage rate is tied with Vucevic as highest on a team (26%)

Counting stats didn't improve, scoring 18 points on 18 shots is as impressive as Wiggins scoring 20 on 20 shots.
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Post#972 » by Skin » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:01 am

thelead wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:He shoots 5/18 (27,7% ) for 3 since basketball returned. According to nba tracking, all 18 threes were wide open ( closest defender more than 6 feet away)
So shot maybe looks better, efficiency is still same.

According to scouting reports before short college season, he was never known as good outside shooter in highschool. It would be interesting to know would he be good 3 point shooter from nba range and by nba standards, if he never got TOS...

Where do you get your stats? I'm not blaming you but they're almost always wrong. He is 6/16 (37.5%) from 3 since basketball returned while taking 4 or 5 end of quarter threes.

Wow, I knew pepe had a terrible hatred for Fultz from day 1, but false manipulation of stats and getting caught has got to be a new low. :nonono:
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Post#973 » by pepe1991 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:04 am

Skin wrote:
thelead wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:He shoots 5/18 (27,7% ) for 3 since basketball returned. According to nba tracking, all 18 threes were wide open ( closest defender more than 6 feet away)
So shot maybe looks better, efficiency is still same.

According to scouting reports before short college season, he was never known as good outside shooter in highschool. It would be interesting to know would he be good 3 point shooter from nba range and by nba standards, if he never got TOS...

Where do you get your stats? I'm not blaming you but they're almost always wrong. He is 6/16 (37.5%) from 3 since basketball returned while taking 4 or 5 end of quarter threes.

Wow, I knew pepe had a terrible hatred for Fultz from day 1, but false manipulation of stats and getting caught has got to be a new low. :nonono:


Comming from a basketball fan who thought missed shots while being fouled count in box score...
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It was honest mistake and i said i was wrong :dontknow:

That being said, here is official nba.com data from traditional stats

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Post#974 » by Bakomagic » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:33 pm

Skin wrote:
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pepe1991 wrote:He shoots 5/18 (27,7% ) for 3 since basketball returned. According to nba tracking, all 18 threes were wide open ( closest defender more than 6 feet away)
So shot maybe looks better, efficiency is still same.

According to scouting reports before short college season, he was never known as good outside shooter in highschool. It would be interesting to know would he be good 3 point shooter from nba range and by nba standards, if he never got TOS...

Where do you get your stats? I'm not blaming you but they're almost always wrong. He is 6/16 (37.5%) from 3 since basketball returned while taking 4 or 5 end of quarter threes.

Wow, I knew pepe had a terrible hatred for Fultz from day 1, but false manipulation of stats and getting caught has got to be a new low. :nonono:


I am not surprised, in our offseason threads he would continually post that Markelle would probably never step foot on the court, that he was trying to trick Weltham into picking up his option and that Markelle didn't really love the game. He even went as far as to say that his mom/sister would be a distraction to the team.

He's been on the Markelle Hate train since the beginning, you would think he is a sixer fan or maybe he is DJ Augustine's burner account?

If Markelle played outstanding he would say small sample size, teams are still getting back in shape or resting/tanking. Yes Markelle hasn't shot great in the bubble but he has shown throughout the rest of the season (60 games or whatever) that he can make the midrange shot and get to the rim and score on top of being our best perimeter playmaker. That's a good sign for a guy who is young and just finished his first full season.
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Post#975 » by pepe1991 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:47 pm

Bakomagic wrote:
Skin wrote:
thelead wrote:Where do you get your stats? I'm not blaming you but they're almost always wrong. He is 6/16 (37.5%) from 3 since basketball returned while taking 4 or 5 end of quarter threes.

Wow, I knew pepe had a terrible hatred for Fultz from day 1, but false manipulation of stats and getting caught has got to be a new low. :nonono:


I am not surprised, in our offseason threads he would continually post that Markelle would probably never step foot on the court, that he was trying to trick Weltham into picking up his option and that Markelle didn't really love the game. He even went as far as to say that his mom/sister would be a distraction to the team.

He's been on the Markelle Hate train since the beginning, you would think he is a sixer fan or maybe he is DJ Augustine's burner account?

If Markelle played outstanding he would say small sample size, teams are still getting back in shape or resting/tanking. Yes Markelle hasn't shot great in the bubble but he has shown throughout the rest of the season (60 games or whatever) that he can make the midrange shot and get to the rim and score on top of being our best perimeter playmaker. That's a good sign for a guy who is young and just finished his first full season.



He shot 27% for 3 before lockdown.
His 51% Ts was below average before.
He is 3rd year pro, not rookie.
Doesn't help he was traded for somebody who is actually good at basketball and already allstar.


Talk yourself into false hype about DJ Augustin-like performer on team with 46% win rate who is like 4th maybe 5th best player on that team, i won't. You probably think him and Bamba are new Shaq and Penny :lol:
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Post#976 » by Skybox » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:40 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
Bakomagic wrote:
Skin wrote:Wow, I knew pepe had a terrible hatred for Fultz from day 1, but false manipulation of stats and getting caught has got to be a new low. :nonono:


I am not surprised, in our offseason threads he would continually post that Markelle would probably never step foot on the court, that he was trying to trick Weltham into picking up his option and that Markelle didn't really love the game. He even went as far as to say that his mom/sister would be a distraction to the team.

He's been on the Markelle Hate train since the beginning, you would think he is a sixer fan or maybe he is DJ Augustine's burner account?

If Markelle played outstanding he would say small sample size, teams are still getting back in shape or resting/tanking. Yes Markelle hasn't shot great in the bubble but he has shown throughout the rest of the season (60 games or whatever) that he can make the midrange shot and get to the rim and score on top of being our best perimeter playmaker. That's a good sign for a guy who is young and just finished his first full season.



Doesn't help he was traded for somebody who is actually good at basketball and already allstar.


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As far as ORL is concerned, he was traded for a guy that's out of the league.
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Post#977 » by Skin » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:03 pm

Skybox wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Bakomagic wrote:
I am not surprised, in our offseason threads he would continually post that Markelle would probably never step foot on the court, that he was trying to trick Weltham into picking up his option and that Markelle didn't really love the game. He even went as far as to say that his mom/sister would be a distraction to the team.

He's been on the Markelle Hate train since the beginning, you would think he is a sixer fan or maybe he is DJ Augustine's burner account?

If Markelle played outstanding he would say small sample size, teams are still getting back in shape or resting/tanking. Yes Markelle hasn't shot great in the bubble but he has shown throughout the rest of the season (60 games or whatever) that he can make the midrange shot and get to the rim and score on top of being our best perimeter playmaker. That's a good sign for a guy who is young and just finished his first full season.



Doesn't help he was traded for somebody who is actually good at basketball and already allstar.


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As far as ORL is concerned, he was traded for a guy that's out of the league.

I wonder if pepe thinks we gave up Ben Simmons and not Jonathon Simmons. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#978 » by KillMonger » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:48 pm

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pepe1991 wrote:

Doesn't help he was traded for somebody who is actually good at basketball and already allstar.


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As far as ORL is concerned, he was traded for a guy that's out of the league.

I wonder if pepe thinks we gave up Ben Simmons and not Jonathon Simmons. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post#980 » by pepe1991 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:46 pm

Skybox wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Bakomagic wrote:
I am not surprised, in our offseason threads he would continually post that Markelle would probably never step foot on the court, that he was trying to trick Weltham into picking up his option and that Markelle didn't really love the game. He even went as far as to say that his mom/sister would be a distraction to the team.

He's been on the Markelle Hate train since the beginning, you would think he is a sixer fan or maybe he is DJ Augustine's burner account?

If Markelle played outstanding he would say small sample size, teams are still getting back in shape or resting/tanking. Yes Markelle hasn't shot great in the bubble but he has shown throughout the rest of the season (60 games or whatever) that he can make the midrange shot and get to the rim and score on top of being our best perimeter playmaker. That's a good sign for a guy who is young and just finished his first full season.



Doesn't help he was traded for somebody who is actually good at basketball and already allstar.


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As far as ORL is concerned, he was traded for a guy that's out of the league.

He was traded for Jayson Tatum , at least their pick selections.
21 years old, 23 ppg ,7 rpg, 3 apg allstar and one of brightest young basketball stars out there.

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