Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread

[The Effect]

thoughts on Leandro Bolmaro?

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He just signed another deal with Barcelona through 2023 so doubt he comes over

Sounds like even more of an orlando pick

[MagicFan101]

I’m really not buying the GSW trading #1 overall (Anthony Edwards) to Orlando for AG talk.

What night seem more plausible is if GS slips in the lottery and Edwards is off the board. Better yet, UF Edwards and Wiseman (who they have also been linked to) are both gone.

Say GS has the #3 pick with those 3 gone.

Is there still a name in the draft worthy of Orlando making an AG swap?

[jonbob17]

I’m really not buying the GSW trading #1 overall (Anthony Edwards) to Orlando for AG talk.

What night seem more plausible is if GS slips in the lottery and Edwards is off the board. Better yet, UF Edwards and Wiseman (who they have also been linked to) are both gone.

Say GS has the #3 pick with those 3 gone.

Is there still a name in the draft worthy of Orlando making an AG swap?

Golden State has a 48% chance of picking 5th. Should the Magic trade for 3-5? Sure there are high upside guys all through the top 10. Maybe just as much as Edwards, who is crazy athletic, but who knows, he has a lot of red flags too.

The question are the Warriors or Wolves(could be as low as 7) willing to move their pick for AG and our 15th. No chance we get the pick for AG straight up. If we want to trade with Golden State it will have to involve a third team like Minnesota or Charlotte, since AG makes too much to trade directly.

I wish we would be allowed to trade Fournier to Warriors and then trade AG for Fournier and the pick, that would be convenient.

[The Effect]

with isaacs injury, and injury history, i highly doubt gordon gets moved any time soon

[KillMonger]

with isaacs injury, and injury history, i highly doubt gordon gets moved any time soon

don't be too sure about that....we're not in a position to make anyone untouchable, everyone has a price and if ours is met isaac's injury or injury history isn't stopping that...or at least it shouldn't.

[zaymon]

with isaacs injury, and injury history, i highly doubt gordon gets moved any time soon

don't be too sure about that....we're not in a position to make anyone untouchable, everyone has a price and if ours is met isaac's injury or injury history isn't stopping that...or at least it shouldn't.

If we assume we dont stand a chance without Isaac its a good time to trade Gordon. Its a year we can reload our young assets, and give them minutes to fight for. Its not likely Gordon value will be higher than after the playoffs. If we miss playoffs becouse of lack of talent.... well next draft seems much stronger. We will be Vucevic injury away from deep lottery.

[KillMonger]

Sleeper Second Round target?

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could be a nice bench scorer, 6"6 SG got some sauce to his game

[pepe1991]

I would just draft Tyrell Terry and call a day for 2020 draft.

Guy isn't big, but can shoot from just about anywhere. As catch&shoot player, he is already better than vast majority of Magic players.
He is more of a scorer than passer but i can live with that. Knows how to put his shoulders and butt between defenders and himself to create separation and space.

Another bonus, guy actually has competitive spirit within himself and brings energy, unlike some lottery prospect we drafted ...

This simply isn't year where Magic are capable of making good long term decisions. They have nothing to base them off. Too many what -ifs still looming.

We don't know is there anybody worth building roster around. Last thing this team needs is once again lock themselfs into second tear "stars" like they did with Oladipo, Harris, Ibaka and Vuc and overpay Biyombo type players than figure ceiling of that team is 40 wins.

So i assume that for next year Magic won't do much moves until it comes time to move Evan ( as he will pick his player's option) around in-season trade deadline and Gordon, for longer, more controlable contract.

Okeke will play his first games.
Fultz is in that moment 4th year, 23 years old player, time to show what he is and what he isn't.
Bamba is also 23 , it's make of break season for him.
Isaac is out for probably whole year.

[jezzerinho]

Terry interests me a lot too, along with Maxey and - in a tradeup - Anthony.

But frankly, with how fragile Isaac is and how 50:50 Fultz' chances are of being a top PG, Bamba's continúe struggles, the mystery that is Okeke, how likely Fournier and Gordon at a minimum will be shifted on....

I wouldn't rule out drafting anybody at any position.

[The Effect]

with isaacs injury, and injury history, i highly doubt gordon gets moved any time soon

don't be too sure about that....we're not in a position to make anyone untouchable, everyone has a price and if ours is met isaac's injury or injury history isn't stopping that...or at least it shouldn't.

If we assume we dont stand a chance without Isaac its a good time to trade Gordon. Its a year we can reload our young assets, and give them minutes to fight for. Its not likely Gordon value will be higher than after the playoffs. If we miss playoffs becouse of lack of talent.... well next draft seems much stronger. We will be Vucevic injury away from deep lottery.

This FO has already proven they value continuity and competing, they won't tear it down and start over (aka tank) when they are coming off back to back playoff appearances.

I look at what weltman did in Toronto. They refused to go away from the derozen\lowery lead team and believed in continuing to add to that instead of breaking it down. Sure towards the end they were a top 3 seed for a few years but they spent a good 4 years as a 30-40 win team before their ECF appearance. Weltman wasn't there when they finally moved on from derozen

I have a feeling it will be the same thing here. They will continue trying to add pieces and hope to hit that homerun in the middle of 1st round that puts the team over the top

Seriously doubt they tear it down..... And I'm saying that as someone who would love nothing more than to see them trade away everyone except fultz and chuma, and go after a top 5 pick the next couple of years

[Def Swami]

I've liked Tyrell Terry too. I think he has upside to be a good scorer in the NBA. His size is going to make him a liability on defense, but his shot making and range is a legitimate skill that should translate to the NBA. His game reminds me of CJ McCollum's. We need help in the back court, and Fultz is the only point guard signed to be on the team next year. Terry could play back up PG minutes and gives us insurance in case Fultz doesn't pan out. He can also play off ball with Fultz too.

My draft approach at this point is

1.) Is there a question about their motor, effort, or competitiveness?

2.) Do we have to teach them to shoot?

If there's any question about #1, then I'm all the way out.

If there's a question about #2, then I'm also mostly out unless there is some physical skill that would allow them to overcome the shortcoming and they're a gym rat who will put in the time.

I really like Aaron Nesmith. He's a big wing who is an ace shooter and projects to be a good defender. I imagine he, like Devin Vassell who I also like, are going to get drafted before we pick. But, if there's a scenario where the Magic can trade up or if he slips, I think he's a guy who would fit right in. I like that he led his team in scoring as a sophomore. It shows me he's not a guy who's going to fade in the background and that he has the confidence in his scoring ability to lead a team.

I also like Kira Lewis Jr. His speed and athleticism is really enticing, and he proved to be a good enough shooter. Lewis Jr. vs Terry is the big debate in my mind. He might be a better long term prospect than Terry given his athleticism, but it depends on how much you project his shooting to translate to the league. He's more likely to survive on an NBA floor given that he's a little bigger and quicker and should be a better defender. I feel like one of the biggest cheat codes in the NBA is having a player that can extend the defense out to the 30 feet, and maybe Terry has that in his game. But, I like Lewis's game and spirit. I'm surprised that he's not rated higher in the mock drafts. It doesn't make sense to me that someone like Cole Anthony would get drafted before him.

RJ Hampton has always been a wild card. He checks box #1, but clearly misses #2. However, if he ever catches up to being a good shooter, he might end up the best player in the draft. 7 years ago, John Hammond took a swing on a player like that and he became a 2x league MVP. This team needs high end talent and I could see the front office just taking a swing on a guy like Hampton.

Saddiq Bey should be a good 3&D guy and has a good motor; I wouldn't hate the pick. Jah'mius Ramsey checks both boxes too. Josh Green is super athletic and looks like he has an NBA body, but I'm not sure I trust his shooting.

[zaymon]

I would just draft Tyrell Terry and call a day for 2020 draft.

Guy isn't big, but can shoot from just about anywhere. As catch&shoot player, he is already better than vast majority of Magic players.
He is more of a scorer than passer but i can live with that. Knows how to put his shoulders and butt between defenders and himself to create separation and space.

Another bonus, guy actually has competitive spirit within himself and brings energy, unlike some lottery prospect we drafted ...

This simply isn't year where Magic are capable of making good long term decisions. They have nothing to base them off. Too many what -ifs still looming.

We don't know is there anybody worth building roster around. Last thing this team needs is once again lock themselfs into second tear "stars" like they did with Oladipo, Harris, Ibaka and Vuc and overpay Biyombo type players than figure ceiling of that team is 40 wins.

So i assume that for next year Magic won't do much moves until it comes time to move Evan ( as he will pick his player's option) around in-season trade deadline and Gordon, for longer, more controlable contract.

Okeke will play his first games.
Fultz is in that moment 4th year, 23 years old player, time to show what he is and what he isn't.
Bamba is also 23 , it's make of break season for him.
Isaac is out for probably whole year.

I cant believe you like Terry after you discredited Young many times for his poor frame. While Young is exceptional offensive talent, Terry lacks handle and passing to be a lead ball handler. I dont know if a guy with Terry's frame and without lead ball handler potential is a starter in the nba. Yes he tries on defense unlike Trae, but still he would be the weak link all the time.

[Knightro]

I’m really not buying the GSW trading #1 overall (Anthony Edwards) to Orlando for AG talk.

What night seem more plausible is if GS slips in the lottery and Edwards is off the board. Better yet, UF Edwards and Wiseman (who they have also been linked to) are both gone.

Say GS has the #3 pick with those 2 gone.

Is there still a name in the draft worthy of Orlando making an AG swap?

If Edwards and Wiseman were gone, I'd still be willing to trade Gordon for Ball, Haliburton or Avdija.

Aaron Gordon is what he is at this point. He's a solid, unspectacular two-way power forward who can also play a little small forward.

Not a star, never going to be a star. Plus he's only 2 years from free agency whereas a top 5 pick is cost controlled for 5 years.

[The Effect]

I dont know eveyr much about him, but watching clips on youtube of Karim Mane today, i have to say im pretty impressed with this guy as a solid 2nd round choice. He was injured for part of this year so he didnt get to play infront of alot of scouts, but he did play for the canadian fiba u19 team and was pretty good. Everything i read says he has a great work ethic and alpha mentality. 6'5 with a 7ft wingspan (so clearly hes on Wehams radar) combo guard. Seems like the type of player you take a shot on, low risk\high reward

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[drsd]

I would just draft Tyrell Terry and call a day for 2020 draft.

I think Aaron Nesmith is a more-interesting dark-horse name. His shot is All-Universre and his length could lead to a 2-4 position player.

Can he be taught to be a good defender?


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[pepe1991]

I would just draft Tyrell Terry and call a day for 2020 draft.

Guy isn't big, but can shoot from just about anywhere. As catch&shoot player, he is already better than vast majority of Magic players.
He is more of a scorer than passer but i can live with that. Knows how to put his shoulders and butt between defenders and himself to create separation and space.

Another bonus, guy actually has competitive spirit within himself and brings energy, unlike some lottery prospect we drafted ...

This simply isn't year where Magic are capable of making good long term decisions. They have nothing to base them off. Too many what -ifs still looming.

We don't know is there anybody worth building roster around. Last thing this team needs is once again lock themselfs into second tear "stars" like they did with Oladipo, Harris, Ibaka and Vuc and overpay Biyombo type players than figure ceiling of that team is 40 wins.

So i assume that for next year Magic won't do much moves until it comes time to move Evan ( as he will pick his player's option) around in-season trade deadline and Gordon, for longer, more controlable contract.

Okeke will play his first games.
Fultz is in that moment 4th year, 23 years old player, time to show what he is and what he isn't.
Bamba is also 23 , it's make of break season for him.
Isaac is out for probably whole year.

I cant believe you like Terry after you discredited Young many times for his poor frame. While Young is exceptional offensive talent, Terry lacks handle and passing to be a lead ball handler. I dont know if a guy with Terry's frame and without lead ball handler potential is a starter in the nba. Yes he tries on defense unlike Trae, but still he would be the weak link all the time.

Because i have no issue with gambling with non lottery picks. I mean what's worst it can happen? He does not pan out? No big deal really.

[KillMonger]

I like Terry, he's like Kevin Martin in a steph/Trae body. Thing is though steph and Trae are both lead guards and I'm not sure Terry can be a lead guard and who does he guard defensively? I'm torn with Terry, 50/50 really like what I see offensively but for me it's kind of hard to picture defensively if he's not at PG. I need to see more film but nothing I've seen so far tells me that he can lead an offense for an extended period......then again, I guess we make it work with DJ maybe......

[MagicFan101]

I'm seeing nbadraft.net, at least one key Bleacher Report and a CBS mock recently project Cole Anthony to Orlando.

I'm not thrilled by that fit or bpa selection at #15.

Anyone care to try and change my mind? ... I am willing to change.

[KillMonger]

thoughts on RJ hampton?

[Xatticus]

thoughts on RJ hampton?

I don't really see it. He has some plus physical tools. He has a good first step and he is pretty determined as a driver. He runs the court really well and looks to push the ball in transition. He isn't strong, but he'll keep fighting to get to the rim. As he adds strength, that could become an asset. The problem is that his finishing looks really poor and his shot is a minus. He can create passing lanes, but he doesn't have good vision and he isn't a good passer. He looks a lot like MCW offensively.

He is kind of a mess at the defensive end. The physical tools are there to be decent, but he doesn't look like he has any idea what he is doing. He'll move his feet and keep his arms up, but guys go straight through him because he just doesn't have the natural instincts of a good defender. The effort is poor, but that's not a huge issue if you believe in his character. A lot of young guys don't appreciate the value of defensive effort.

He is actually older than Kira Lewis Jr.