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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 2.0 

Post#981 » by Skin » Thu Feb 1, 2024 11:41 pm

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Tripod wrote:Raps fans would love to get their hands on WCJ to split duties at C with Poeltl.

Is there any deal to be made involving Schroeder or GTJ and picks? Schroeder has 1 year left, gives that vet floor leadership and good defensively. AB gets 1.5 years to learn from him/pick his brain. GTJ obviously would need to agree to re-sign....shooting over 40% ftom 3.

Honestly, if that's the best deal on the table, I would do it.



What happened to you skin?

I despise our backcourt and WCj isn't necessary.
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Post#982 » by RookieStar » Fri Feb 2, 2024 12:06 am

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Skin wrote:Honestly, if that's the best deal on the table, I would do it.



What happened to you skin?

I despise our backcourt and WCj isn't necessary.


Yeah but GTJ is your answer???
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Post#983 » by Skin » Fri Feb 2, 2024 12:24 am

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What happened to you skin?

I despise our backcourt and WCj isn't necessary.


Yeah but GTJ is your answer???

He would allow us to see conceptually whether his type would work for this team or not. He's not on a long term deal either, so no harm in finding out. Schroder, Franz, Moe already sync in harmony. Would be an easy fit here as a veteran presence.
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 2.0 

Post#984 » by yoyojw17 » Fri Feb 2, 2024 12:39 am

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Knightro wrote:“I've heard more than once this week not to discount the idea that Brooklyn big man Nic Claxton could be more available over the next seven days than previously advertised. There are mixed signals in circulation about the Nets' plans with Claxton as unrestricted free agency looms this summer.”

^ Marc Stein
A WCJ for Claxton framework would be perfect.


Then people will cry for a C that can space the floor.

Realgm is so funny

Wendell is shooting around 40% from 3.... something people have wanted ... and now "trade him".

I know he's not a **** blocker but for his size .... he moves well and is still a great defender. If I remember correctly... he was a leader of percentage in the paint. Might not get the block ... but this is a more important stat. He just needs to be me ...STRONG. throw the 270 lb around. I loved in the last game that he got a couple lobs and deep position.wemby deterred a lot on the interior. This needs to become part of his game. Even Paolo was aggressive on the inside. Mix it up guys. Shoot a lil ... drive a lil .... post a lil... keep the defense on their toes. Remember WCJ fake hand off into the drive and dunk on wemby. I screamed. Haha

Did I mention he's cheap for a couple more years?
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Post#985 » by BadMofoPimp » Fri Feb 2, 2024 12:49 am

Claxton wouldn't push the needle.

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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 2.0 

Post#986 » by Skin » Fri Feb 2, 2024 12:58 am

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cedric76 wrote:
eyriq wrote:A WCJ for Claxton framework would be perfect.


Then people will cry for a C that can space the floor.

Realgm is so funny

Wendell is shooting around 40% from 3.... something people have wanted ... and now "trade him".

I know he's not a **** blocker but for his size .... he moves well and is still a great defender. If I remember correctly... he was a leader of percentage in the paint. Might not get the block ... but this is a more important stat. He just needs to be me ...STRONG. throw the 270 lb around. I loved in the last game that he got a couple lobs and deep position.wemby deterred a lot on the interior. This needs to become part of his game. Even Paolo was aggressive on the inside. Mix it up guys. Shoot a lil ... drive a lil .... post a lil... keep the defense on their toes. Remember WCJ fake hand off into the drive and dunk on wemby. I screamed. Haha

Did I mention he's cheap for a couple more years?

You're following the wrong signs down a slippery slope.

The core of this team is Paolo, Franz, and Isaac (whether people want to acknowledge it or not). Every decision now becomes easier.

You don't necessarily want to have a Center who doesn't play tough defense and has a propensity to want to be a scorer. His ability to stretch the floor is a plus and his contract is a plus, but his fit is not. As long as Jonathan Isaac is healthy, he should be our Center. He can stretch the floor too, but his defense and unselfish offense is the perfect fit. Our team's defensive effectiveness is night and day when he's on and off the court.

WCJ is on a nice deal and he can hit a 3 among other things, but we would not be able to attract another substantial player if he didn't have those attractive qualities. Nobody is saying WCj is trash, let's trade him for nothing. We're saying, let's reallocate our assets to build a better team.
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 2.0 

Post#987 » by eyriq » Fri Feb 2, 2024 1:11 am

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cedric76 wrote:
Then people will cry for a C that can space the floor.

Realgm is so funny

Wendell is shooting around 40% from 3.... something people have wanted ... and now "trade him".

I know he's not a **** blocker but for his size .... he moves well and is still a great defender. If I remember correctly... he was a leader of percentage in the paint. Might not get the block ... but this is a more important stat. He just needs to be me ...STRONG. throw the 270 lb around. I loved in the last game that he got a couple lobs and deep position.wemby deterred a lot on the interior. This needs to become part of his game. Even Paolo was aggressive on the inside. Mix it up guys. Shoot a lil ... drive a lil .... post a lil... keep the defense on their toes. Remember WCJ fake hand off into the drive and dunk on wemby. I screamed. Haha

Did I mention he's cheap for a couple more years?

You're following the wrong signs down a slippery slope.

The core of this team is Paolo, Franz, and Isaac (whether people want to acknowledge it or not). Every decision now becomes easier.

You don't necessarily want to have a Center who doesn't play tough defense and has a propensity to want to be a scorer. His ability to stretch the floor is a plus and his contract is a plus, but his fit is not. As long as Jonathan Isaac is healthy, he should be our Center. He can stretch the floor too, but his defense and unselfish offense is the perfect fit. Our team's defensive effectiveness is night and day when he's on and off the court.

WCJ is on a nice deal and he can hit a 3 among other things, but we would not be able to attract another substantial player if he didn't have those attractive qualities. Nobody is saying WCj is trash, let's trade him for nothing. We're saying, let's reallocate our assets to build a better team.
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 2.0 

Post#988 » by RookieStar » Fri Feb 2, 2024 1:26 am

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Skin wrote:I despise our backcourt and WCj isn't necessary.


Yeah but GTJ is your answer???

He would allow us to see conceptually whether his type would work for this team or not. He's not on a long term deal either, so no harm in finding out. Schroder, Franz, Moe already sync in harmony. Would be an easy fit here as a veteran presence.


But at the cost of WCJ? He is probably our viggest asset trade-wise and we use himnfor basically an expirment with DS and Trent?
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 2.0 

Post#989 » by Max Power » Fri Feb 2, 2024 2:10 am

Watching this team lately, we can’t trade for a guard at the expensive of our front court, which really is razor thin. I’m keeping Carter right now, I’d rather use other assets to try to acquire a shooter for the backcourt. Besides, Carters turned his season around the last couple weeks. We need that guy right now
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Post#990 » by T-Cat » Fri Feb 2, 2024 2:15 am

Max Power wrote:Watching this team lately, we can’t trade for a guard at the expensive of our front court, which really is razor thin. I’m keeping Carter right now, I’d rather use other assets to try to acquire a shooter for the backcourt. Besides, Carters turned his season around the last couple weeks. We need that guy right now


Knowing his injury history, strike now while the iron is hot! :D
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 2.0 

Post#991 » by yoyojw17 » Fri Feb 2, 2024 2:31 am

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yoyojw17 wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
Then people will cry for a C that can space the floor.

Realgm is so funny

Wendell is shooting around 40% from 3.... something people have wanted ... and now "trade him".

I know he's not a **** blocker but for his size .... he moves well and is still a great defender. If I remember correctly... he was a leader of percentage in the paint. Might not get the block ... but this is a more important stat. He just needs to be me ...STRONG. throw the 270 lb around. I loved in the last game that he got a couple lobs and deep position.wemby deterred a lot on the interior. This needs to become part of his game. Even Paolo was aggressive on the inside. Mix it up guys. Shoot a lil ... drive a lil .... post a lil... keep the defense on their toes. Remember WCJ fake hand off into the drive and dunk on wemby. I screamed. Haha

Did I mention he's cheap for a couple more years?

You're following the wrong signs down a slippery slope.

The core of this team is Paolo, Franz, and Isaac (whether people want to acknowledge it or not). Every decision now becomes easier.

You don't necessarily want to have a Center who doesn't play tough defense and has a propensity to want to be a scorer. His ability to stretch the floor is a plus and his contract is a plus, but his fit is not. As long as Jonathan Isaac is healthy, he should be our Center. He can stretch the floor too, but his defense and unselfish offense is the perfect fit. Our team's defensive effectiveness is night and day when he's on and off the court.

WCJ is on a nice deal and he can hit a 3 among other things, but we would not be able to attract another substantial player if he didn't have those attractive qualities. Nobody is saying WCj is trash, let's trade him for nothing. We're saying, let's reallocate our assets to build a better team.


Yeah... I would loooooove for JI to be our starting center. lol.... i think everyone would.... but he's still not healthy enough to let someone go to make room. 2 days ago people were over having him cuz he "started the game and only played 8 min" and he was str8 frustrating and undependable. JI and Markelle ... have been 2 of my favorite players even through there issues.... but unless there is something we need need.... Giving up WCJ this trade deadline might be too quick.

BUT YES.... if you tell me that JI works out and gets bulletproof knees and ankles.... I am the happiest man!
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Post#992 » by BadMofoPimp » Fri Feb 2, 2024 3:33 am

Funny that people still peg Slim as a center or even capable of being a starting center when he never plays center and gets injured easily against smaller players. Must be only looking at stats and making broad assumptions. He will be seen as a serviceable backup PF or SF for years to come.
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Post#993 » by cedric76 » Fri Feb 2, 2024 7:00 am

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cedric76 wrote:
Then people will cry for a C that can space the floor.

Realgm is so funny

Wendell is shooting around 40% from 3.... something people have wanted ... and now "trade him".

I know he's not a **** blocker but for his size .... he moves well and is still a great defender. If I remember correctly... he was a leader of percentage in the paint. Might not get the block ... but this is a more important stat. He just needs to be me ...STRONG. throw the 270 lb around. I loved in the last game that he got a couple lobs and deep position.wemby deterred a lot on the interior. This needs to become part of his game. Even Paolo was aggressive on the inside. Mix it up guys. Shoot a lil ... drive a lil .... post a lil... keep the defense on their toes. Remember WCJ fake hand off into the drive and dunk on wemby. I screamed. Haha

Did I mention he's cheap for a couple more years?

You're following the wrong signs down a slippery slope.

The core of this team is Paolo, Franz, and Isaac (whether people want to acknowledge it or not). Every decision now becomes easier.

You don't necessarily want to have a Center who doesn't play tough defense and has a propensity to want to be a scorer. His ability to stretch the floor is a plus and his contract is a plus, but his fit is not. As long as Jonathan Isaac is healthy, he should be our Center. He can stretch the floor too, but his defense and unselfish offense is the perfect fit. Our team's defensive effectiveness is night and day when he's on and off the court.

WCJ is on a nice deal and he can hit a 3 among other things, but we would not be able to attract another substantial player if he didn't have those attractive qualities. Nobody is saying WCj is trash, let's trade him for nothing. We're saying, let's reallocate our assets to build a better team.


I love JI and I love when he is on the court with Franz and PB. I want to keep Wcj to share minutes with JI

Wcj can log minutes at pf and C

It s good to have option (like having goga when we play stronger C).

As for Trent jr, he is my target too, Harris+chuma+3 SRP for gtj.(Toronto will have to trade him instead of losing him for nothing to us this summer)

Perfect fit, he can play Harris ' role

Why hate our backcourt ?

Suggs is perfect next to Paolo and Franz

Jett will be a really good SG too (great fit)

I m not a fan of black but you can't deny he is a good asset

Cole?? Microwave scorer is always needed in a team (8th man instead of 6th man)

Fultz? I love him but the writing is on the wall unfortunately
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Post#994 » by Skin » Fri Feb 2, 2024 7:29 am

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yoyojw17 wrote:Wendell is shooting around 40% from 3.... something people have wanted ... and now "trade him".

I know he's not a **** blocker but for his size .... he moves well and is still a great defender. If I remember correctly... he was a leader of percentage in the paint. Might not get the block ... but this is a more important stat. He just needs to be me ...STRONG. throw the 270 lb around. I loved in the last game that he got a couple lobs and deep position.wemby deterred a lot on the interior. This needs to become part of his game. Even Paolo was aggressive on the inside. Mix it up guys. Shoot a lil ... drive a lil .... post a lil... keep the defense on their toes. Remember WCJ fake hand off into the drive and dunk on wemby. I screamed. Haha

Did I mention he's cheap for a couple more years?

You're following the wrong signs down a slippery slope.

The core of this team is Paolo, Franz, and Isaac (whether people want to acknowledge it or not). Every decision now becomes easier.

You don't necessarily want to have a Center who doesn't play tough defense and has a propensity to want to be a scorer. His ability to stretch the floor is a plus and his contract is a plus, but his fit is not. As long as Jonathan Isaac is healthy, he should be our Center. He can stretch the floor too, but his defense and unselfish offense is the perfect fit. Our team's defensive effectiveness is night and day when he's on and off the court.

WCJ is on a nice deal and he can hit a 3 among other things, but we would not be able to attract another substantial player if he didn't have those attractive qualities. Nobody is saying WCj is trash, let's trade him for nothing. We're saying, let's reallocate our assets to build a better team.
It would be malpractice to design a build around JI. Availability is not his best ability and probably never will be.

That he is often unavailable is true, but that doesn't mean he's not a cornerstone and should come off the bench when healthy or not be given an extension to continue to be a big part of this team. He is and should continue to be a core player. Much more than WCj.
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Post#995 » by Skin » Fri Feb 2, 2024 7:35 am

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yoyojw17 wrote:Wendell is shooting around 40% from 3.... something people have wanted ... and now "trade him".

I know he's not a **** blocker but for his size .... he moves well and is still a great defender. If I remember correctly... he was a leader of percentage in the paint. Might not get the block ... but this is a more important stat. He just needs to be me ...STRONG. throw the 270 lb around. I loved in the last game that he got a couple lobs and deep position.wemby deterred a lot on the interior. This needs to become part of his game. Even Paolo was aggressive on the inside. Mix it up guys. Shoot a lil ... drive a lil .... post a lil... keep the defense on their toes. Remember WCJ fake hand off into the drive and dunk on wemby. I screamed. Haha

Did I mention he's cheap for a couple more years?

You're following the wrong signs down a slippery slope.

The core of this team is Paolo, Franz, and Isaac (whether people want to acknowledge it or not). Every decision now becomes easier.

You don't necessarily want to have a Center who doesn't play tough defense and has a propensity to want to be a scorer. His ability to stretch the floor is a plus and his contract is a plus, but his fit is not. As long as Jonathan Isaac is healthy, he should be our Center. He can stretch the floor too, but his defense and unselfish offense is the perfect fit. Our team's defensive effectiveness is night and day when he's on and off the court.

WCJ is on a nice deal and he can hit a 3 among other things, but we would not be able to attract another substantial player if he didn't have those attractive qualities. Nobody is saying WCj is trash, let's trade him for nothing. We're saying, let's reallocate our assets to build a better team.


I love JI and I love when he is on the court with Franz and PB. I want to keep Wcj to share minutes with JI

Wcj can log minutes at pf and C

It s good to have option (like having goga when we play stronger C).

As for Trent jr, he is my target too, Harris+chuma+3 SRP for gtj.(Toronto will have to trade him instead of losing him for nothing to us this summer)

Perfect fit, he can play Harris ' role

Why hate our backcourt ?

Suggs is perfect next to Paolo and Franz

Jett will be a really good SG too (great fit)

I m not a fan of black but you can't deny he is a good asset

Cole?? Microwave scorer is always needed in a team (8th man instead of 6th man)

Fultz? I love him but the writing is on the wall unfortunately

I love your optimism, but if I need to use an asset to get an asset, then the guy I'm dangling is WCj. He's unnecessary. Moe can split time with JI instead of WCj. I don't think your offer gets Trent Jr.

I disagree on Suggs. I like him more as a 6th man who doesn't need to be relied upon every night for offense. Disagree on Cole too. He's not a microwave scorer. He's a JAG. Just A Guy. We overpayed to keep him because he's a good "lockerroom guy". Black is on his way to being a JAG too. Gadget player at best in the future. Not a full time starter for a contender. Michael Carter Williams-esque.

I'd prefer a better player than GTj, but like I said... if he's the best we can get, then meh, I'm in.
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Post#996 » by Skin » Fri Feb 2, 2024 7:37 am

yoyojw17 wrote:
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yoyojw17 wrote:Wendell is shooting around 40% from 3.... something people have wanted ... and now "trade him".

I know he's not a **** blocker but for his size .... he moves well and is still a great defender. If I remember correctly... he was a leader of percentage in the paint. Might not get the block ... but this is a more important stat. He just needs to be me ...STRONG. throw the 270 lb around. I loved in the last game that he got a couple lobs and deep position.wemby deterred a lot on the interior. This needs to become part of his game. Even Paolo was aggressive on the inside. Mix it up guys. Shoot a lil ... drive a lil .... post a lil... keep the defense on their toes. Remember WCJ fake hand off into the drive and dunk on wemby. I screamed. Haha

Did I mention he's cheap for a couple more years?

You're following the wrong signs down a slippery slope.

The core of this team is Paolo, Franz, and Isaac (whether people want to acknowledge it or not). Every decision now becomes easier.

You don't necessarily want to have a Center who doesn't play tough defense and has a propensity to want to be a scorer. His ability to stretch the floor is a plus and his contract is a plus, but his fit is not. As long as Jonathan Isaac is healthy, he should be our Center. He can stretch the floor too, but his defense and unselfish offense is the perfect fit. Our team's defensive effectiveness is night and day when he's on and off the court.

WCJ is on a nice deal and he can hit a 3 among other things, but we would not be able to attract another substantial player if he didn't have those attractive qualities. Nobody is saying WCj is trash, let's trade him for nothing. We're saying, let's reallocate our assets to build a better team.


Yeah... I would loooooove for JI to be our starting center. lol.... i think everyone would.... but he's still not healthy enough to let someone go to make room. 2 days ago people were over having him cuz he "started the game and only played 8 min" and he was str8 frustrating and undependable. JI and Markelle ... have been 2 of my favorite players even through there issues.... but unless there is something we need need.... Giving up WCJ this trade deadline might be too quick.

BUT YES.... if you tell me that JI works out and gets bulletproof knees and ankles.... I am the happiest man!

The way I see it... Even if JI is not available... Goga and Moe can still provide what we need. Getting a boost in the backcourt is more important than losing WCj.
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Post#997 » by Skin » Fri Feb 2, 2024 7:39 am

Max Power wrote:Watching this team lately, we can’t trade for a guard at the expensive of our front court, which really is razor thin. I’m keeping Carter right now, I’d rather use other assets to try to acquire a shooter for the backcourt. Besides, Carters turned his season around the last couple weeks. We need that guy right now

What assets? Suggs? Black? Everyone else has no value. It's like when people used to say T-Ross had value and now is out of the league.
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Post#998 » by drsd » Fri Feb 2, 2024 8:02 am

RookieStar wrote:Yeah but GTJ is your answer???


If Orlando can convert Fultz and change for Trent and change, that is a good outcome for Orlando.

Suggs/Anthony/Black
Trent/G-Harris/Houstan
F-Wagner/Ingles
Banchero/Isaac/Okeke
Carter/M-Wagner/Bitadze

That is a roster that can make some damage this postseason.
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Post#999 » by RookieStar » Fri Feb 2, 2024 8:49 am

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RookieStar wrote:Yeah but GTJ is your answer???


If Orlando can convert Fultz and change for Trent and change, that is a good outcome for Orlando.

Suggs/Anthony/Black
Trent/G-Harris/Houstan
F-Wagner/Ingles
Banchero/Isaac/Okeke
Carter/M-Wagner/Bitadze

That is a roster that can make some damage this postseason.


Well yeah... GTJ for Harris Okeke and 2nds is a no brainer. Just not our main trade piece
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Post#1000 » by drsd » Fri Feb 2, 2024 9:29 am

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drsd wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Yeah but GTJ is your answer???


If Orlando can convert Fultz and change for Trent and change, that is a good outcome for Orlando.

Suggs/Anthony/Black
Trent/G-Harris/Houstan
F-Wagner/Ingles
Banchero/Isaac/Okeke
Carter/M-Wagner/Bitadze

That is a roster that can make some damage this postseason.


Well yeah... GTJ for Harris Okeke and 2nds is a no brainer. Just not our main trade piece



I love this trade. But: Fultz has got to go also. Orlando must have shooting come playoff time. That means one new starter and one new bench player that can shoot a 37% longball consistently and with at least medium volume of attempts.


trade 1: as yours.
trade 2: Fultz and Houstan for Luke Kennard

Orlando starts as:
Suggs/Anthony/Black
Trent/Kennard
F-Wagner/Ingles
Banchero/Isaac
Carter/M-Wagner/Bitadze

Orlando would need to activate Howard to the big leagues and sign a LLE vet that is a combo forward. But these small consolidation trades make a lot of sense to me. Having SGs that can, well, shoot seems like a net plus to me.

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