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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:10 pm
by KingRobb02
caseyw20021 wrote:do you think this is a fair trade for both team the espn trade machine say orlando magic get 7 wins and the houston rockets get - 7 wins with it for Arron Afflalo and Glen Davis for James Harden and Patrick Patterson. and here what the nba trade checker says about it Orlando Magic Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +3.7 ppg, -2.2 rpg, and +1.6 apg and here what it say about the Rockets Houston Rockets Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -3.7 ppg, +2.2 rpg, and -1.6 apg?
here is the 1 link for you
http://basketball.realgm.com/tradecheck ... de/6211047and here is the 2 link for you
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bxjrh8b
You want Houston to give up the two best assets in the trade? Harden is clearly the only blue chip in the deal especially when comparing his PER to the shot happy Afflalo, and then when you look at a 23 year old Pat Patterson for a third of the cost of Big Baby, Orlando wins on both sides.
Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:21 pm
by hanhh
KingRobb02 wrote:caseyw20021 wrote:do you think this is a fair trade for both team the espn trade machine say orlando magic get 7 wins and the houston rockets get - 7 wins with it for Arron Afflalo and Glen Davis for James Harden and Patrick Patterson. and here what the nba trade checker says about it Orlando Magic Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +3.7 ppg, -2.2 rpg, and +1.6 apg and here what it say about the Rockets Houston Rockets Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -3.7 ppg, +2.2 rpg, and -1.6 apg?
here is the 1 link for you
http://basketball.realgm.com/tradecheck ... de/6211047and here is the 2 link for you
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bxjrh8b
You want Houston to give up the two best assets in the trade? Harden is clearly the only blue chip in the deal especially when comparing his PER to the shot happy Afflalo, and then when you look at a 23 year old Pat Patterson for a third of the cost of Big Baby, Orlando wins on both sides.
Why even bother working trades with Harden? He is not going anywhere anytime soon. Its like verbal diarrhea
Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:45 pm
by Blue_and_Whte
Can someone tell me if we received the lakers first round pick for this upcoming draft in the Howard trade? Because based on their record, that would be hilarious.
Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:50 pm
by Versubio
Blue_and_Whte wrote:Can someone tell me if we received the lakers first round pick for this upcoming draft in the Howard trade? Because based on their record, that would be hilarious.
We don't get it. Their 1st round pick belongs to Phoenix.
Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:50 pm
by RYgoBOOM
Blue_and_Whte wrote:Can someone tell me if we received the lakers first round pick for this upcoming draft in the Howard trade? Because based on their record, that would be hilarious.
I don't think it's for 2013 but I could be wrong
Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:51 pm
by Blue_and_Whte
Versubio wrote:Blue_and_Whte wrote:Can someone tell me if we received the lakers first round pick for this upcoming draft in the Howard trade? Because based on their record, that would be hilarious.
We don't get it. Their 1st round pick belongs to Phoenix.
Ah damn..oh well. Thanks
Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:54 pm
by Carlos Arroyo
Blue_and_Whte wrote:Can someone tell me if we received the lakers first round pick for this upcoming draft in the Howard trade? Because based on their record, that would be hilarious.
i think the lakers pick is for 2017
Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:57 pm
by Optimus_Steel
Carlos Arroyo wrote:Blue_and_Whte wrote:Can someone tell me if we received the lakers first round pick for this upcoming draft in the Howard trade? Because based on their record, that would be hilarious.
i think the lakers pick is for 2017
The way LA is going they are gonna suck for a long time lol. Kobe will retire and Dwight is a mentally flawed childman with declining athletecism. They have given up most their draft picks in the next 4 years. They may have capspace but FA is not what it used to be.
Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:58 pm
by Versubio
Blue_and_Whte wrote:Versubio wrote:Blue_and_Whte wrote:Can someone tell me if we received the lakers first round pick for this upcoming draft in the Howard trade? Because based on their record, that would be hilarious.
We don't get it. Their 1st round pick belongs to Phoenix.
Ah damn..oh well. Thanks
Yeah, its too bad. I think we won't get their pick until 2017. We get a 1st from Denver or NYK in 2014, which ever team has the worst record.
Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:13 pm
by Blue_and_Whte
Yeah I decided to not be lazy and revisited the details of the trade. Thanks. On a side note, someone mentioned NerlenNoel....I don't know about that guy his scouting report reads eerily like dwight's. Needs to develop a mid range game, needs to polish his post game and add a go to move.
Just seems like a skinnier version of Howard.
Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:28 pm
by glennathan
Here is the link for those looking to see the details on the draft picks we get in the Dwight trade
http://www.orlandopinstripedpost.com/20 ... ward-trade
Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:47 pm
by arsenal6106
I'll post this link and the real gm link in the Official Rob Hennigan Transaction Thread for future reference. Just direct them to that thread if anybody is unsure about the picks we have received.
Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:50 pm
by tiderulz
Versubio wrote:Yeah, its too bad. I think we won't get their pick until 2017. We get a 1st from Denver or NYK in 2014, which ever team has the worst record.
actually, the pick we get from Denver is from whichever team has the better record. We get the worst of the 2 picks.
Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:11 pm
by Darth Magic
Would you do this trade?
A Vucevic-Montajunas front court could be deadly goign forward
Houston gets:
Jameer and Big Baby
Magic get:
Lin and D-Mo
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bgs48v9
Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:23 pm
by RYgoBOOM
the rockets would never do this lol
Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:36 pm
by Darth Magic
RYgoBOOM wrote:the rockets would never do this lol
The thinking is the Rockets are in win now mode and gt two vets who can help them make a legitimate playoff push. Lin and Harden both need the ball to excel, while Jameer can play off the ball and is a great shooter. Big Baby would add scoring, defense and rebounding up front. We take Lins large contract while getting D-Mo to add to our youth movement.
Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:42 pm
by shadrock
shadrock wrote:Wondering if we could maybe squeeze a future first rounder (would have to be 2015 as they have traded 2013 to Minny) out of Memphis for taking on the contract of Marreese Speights for the next 2 years using the TPE(5 mil approx per season)? After looking at Hollingers analysis on his espn profile, its clear hes not keen on the guy, and it would be a simpler route to cutting salary than trading Gay.
For us, taking on salary that expires by 2014 is no problem, and if we get a pick, i say we should do it!
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Cant say i didnt see this coming! Just gutted we werent the team to make it happen! That pick could have been ours:
(Memphis sent big man Marreese Speights, guard Wayne Ellington, guard Josh Selby and a future first-round draft pick to the Cavs for forward Jon Leuer.)
Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:52 pm
by BrettC03
Blue_and_Whte wrote:Yeah I decided to not be lazy and revisited the details of the trade. Thanks. On a side note, someone mentioned NerlenNoel....I don't know about that guy his scouting report reads eerily like dwight's. Needs to develop a mid range game, needs to polish his post game and add a go to move.
Just seems like a skinnier version of Howard.
If he developed a mid-range shot he'd be Ibaka 2.0
That'd be a great pairing with Vucevic if Vuc can develop some post moves.
Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:57 pm
by rcklsscognition
OT but if any of you are fans of Chappelle show there is an absolutely epic article on it on Grantland right now.
http://t.co/nqu4TaHp
Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:05 pm
by tiderulz
I havent been that impressed to Montajunas to be honest. yes, i understand he is a rookie, still......