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We have discussed this pretty much all over the place so I figured I'd make a thread.

We will have probably around $22M in capspace this summer, where should it go?

My preference is that we either spend it all on Durant or some portion of it on Terrence Jones.

We have bird rights on Nicholson and Fournier and I have no doubt they'll be back no matter what but I see this summer playing out like the last one where we delayed using capspace on a Harris extension at first to instead use the space to pursue a FA, just not sure who.

Jason smith must be retained.

How much should we spend on everyone?

Thoughts?

Orlwillbeback wrote:Jason smith must be retained.

Who thought they'd be saying that when we first signed him?

I want to keep the team together, let them grow. Unless a superstar is wanting to come on board. The value for Evan and Drew is gonna be decided over the course of the season, both have been very good but inconsistent. I'd say Evan is in that 14mil area and Drew around 6.

I do somewhat expect to see us make a decision on what SGs we plan to keep going forward. If Vic continues to struggle I could see him being moved by next year's draft. If Evans play goes back down I could see us letting him walk and pushing Mario into his role, unless Vic really comes in strong to end the year.

I expect it to go like last year, we chase one big name, if we miss we keep what we have and try to grow.

There aren't very many good players.

The most reasonable and best player available would be Horford. I dunno how great of a fit he would be next to Vucevic, Milsap would have been better.

My plan...

First Step:
Orl Sends:
Harris, Oladipo and '17 ORL first (or '18 LAL)

Sac Sends:
Cousins


Second Step:
Sign Batum 4 year 75m (Worth every penny imo)

Third Step:
Resign Fournier to a 4 year 50m
Resign Jason Smith to 3 year 15m

Let Nicholson walk sadly due to a team most likely outbidding the Magic.

Your 2016-2017 Orlando Magic...

Payton/Watson/Shabazz
Fournier/Hezonja
Batum/Gordon
Cousins/Frye/'16 Draft pick
Vucevic/Smith

Honestly, this has about 0 chance of happening, but this team is a 55 win team.

Trading for Boogie is... tempting? even logical? but you have to send Vooch somewhere, they can't coexist. Vooch, Dipo, pick seem like a solid package. Would Boston beat that? Any other takers? What would that mean to team's chemistry? hard to tell from outside, but Fo and coaching stuff should know that.
Other then, inside improvement.

I personally am not a fan of cousins and it looks like vuc may be just as good.... without the drama.

No to Cousins, he's too mentally unstable. He has a emo face 24/7.

Considering Henningan's track record, I think it is almost impossible that he would trade for Cousins. He doesn't fit in the culture that the FO is trying to build

I've changed my mind on Cousins, more so with how good Vuc has been than with how butt hurt Cousins' facial expressions are. However I think Sacramento is the perfect trading partner if we want to ship Oladipo out, maybe there is a 3 way trade sending Cousins somewhere else we can get in on? As far as unrestricted FA, Ryan Anderson???

"Spend it all on Durant" My favorite part of your post.
Wish this would happen.

Durant is coming here next summer. Book it. I know a person within the Magic FO who said there is mutual interest, very high interest, between the two (KD and Magic). Rob is working like it is a done deal, since they can't have official meetings on it or even decision, but he is making plans on moves to make it all come together. KD, while focusing on his OKC season, is also silently planning on moving to Florida.

Read it here first.

I don't know anyone within the Magic organization and I have no idea what will happen. Just typical daydreaming, KD is welcome, though. Most likely won't happen.

Right, Harden is coming here too.

How about we concentrate on keeping our current players first? ThE way he has been playing lately, most of that money will be to keep Fournier. He is putting up stats similar to Tobias and will prob want a contract in that area. Then use whatever is left to sign Jason to long-term deal.

Names as I'm scrolling through the list of free agents that interest me:

Al Horford
Pau Gasol
Joakim Noah
RYAN ANDERSON
David West
Nene Hilario

eyriq wrote:Names as I'm scrolling through the list of free agents that interest me:

Al Horford
Pau Gasol
Joakim Noah
RYAN ANDERSON
David West
Nene Hilario

I'm interested in throwing $ at Ryno too but then again I kinda like the versatility Nicholson brings and is a cheaper option.

eyriq wrote:Names as I'm scrolling through the list of free agents that interest me:

Al Horford
Pau Gasol
Joakim Noah
RYAN ANDERSON
David West
Nene Hilario

I was thinking about Rhyno for a while now but then I saw him play vs us and remember why we passed up on him. His defense is atrocious. Then again, Sklies did get Nicholson playing D and even FRYE! Maybe he can instill something in Ryan Anderson.

I used to be big on Al Horford, but we see the impact of Frye as a stretch 4. Horford has a Dirk midrange but can't shoot threes. That's why I'm saying we wait for Ibaka. He can actually knock them down now.

Nene, Joachim, And David west are a bit past their prime. Pay Gasoline doesn't age, but I don't think he will be leaving Chi.

OrlandoDream wrote:

eyriq wrote:Names as I'm scrolling through the list of free agents that interest me:

Al Horford
Pau Gasol
Joakim Noah
RYAN ANDERSON
David West
Nene Hilario

I was thinking about Rhyno for a while now but then I saw him play vs us and remember why we passed up on him. His defense is atrocious. Then again, Sklies did get Nicholson playing D and even FRYE! Maybe he can instill something in Ryan Anderson.

I used to be big on Al Horford, but we see the impact of Frye as a stretch 4. Horford has a Dirk midrange but can't shoot threes. That's why I'm saying we wait for Ibaka. He can actually knock them down now.

Nene, Joachim, And David west are a bit past their prime. Pay Gasoline doesn't age, but I don't think he will be leaving Chi.

i beg to differ, i saw him sink 5 threes against houston the other night

Ideally we'd sign someone to an offer sheet before having to reinvest in Nicholson and Fournier. Similar to the Tobias Harris situation this summer, if we're going to go over the cap (no reason not to with it expanding again the next summer), we'll need to use the cap space first and then go over the cap while retaining Nicholson and Fournier. If we take too long we'll end up paying of Nicholson and Fournier before we can sign another player (like we had to with Harris).

Outside of throwing a hail mary at Kevin Durant I don't see anyone that worthy of spending too much cap space on. I think we're going to end up spending a lot of it on Fournier and NIcholson and bringing in some more bench depth, namely another backup big man. Horford would be great, though I'm not sure he's ready to come off the bench at this point in his career. Noah is too injury prone to invest a lot of money in, and West and Hilario are getting up there in age outside of 1 year deals.

TL;DR: Reinvest in Fournier and Nicholson, Snag Durant or Horford if at all possible (though not likely).

Henny will probably sign another Watson/Frye type of player. Book it.

Could use upgrade at backup center. Javale McGee? Or bring back gortat? I wouldn't make many changes tbh. Frontcourt is actually fine; backcourt will get better when CJ comes back.

Maybe we can spend the money on shooting lessons for our guards