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Am I the only one who think he would be perfect for this team? And potentially available if the price is right.

OMG, hasn't this idea been beaten to death, buried and dug up again enough on here?

Maybe. But it makes much more sense than training for an old Taj Gibson or Brandon Jennings and unfortunately we have to see those posts on a regular basis.

Wasn't there a rumor of ORL trading Dipo for Noel straight up? No thanks.

Philly would have to send us their entire team to make up for his knees.

Better idea is to start AG at PF and see how that goes.

Tron Carter- wrote:Wasn't there a rumor of ORL trading Dipo for Noel straight up? No thanks.

Philly would have to send us their entire team to make up for his knees.

That was made up by some random blog... both guys were struggling, so instead of saying a trade makes sense they wrote it like it was a rumor to get hits (and dumb Philly fans ate it up despite knowing the source).

Nerlens is a funny one for me. I went from NO at the draft, to YES after his first year, back to NO this year. I think my initial gut was right, but I could be wrong. LMAO

OrlandO wrote:

Tron Carter- wrote:Wasn't there a rumor of ORL trading Dipo for Noel straight up? No thanks.

Philly would have to send us their entire team to make up for his knees.

That was made up by some random blog... both guys were struggling, so instead of saying a trade makes sense they wrote it like it was a rumor to get hits (and dumb Philly fans ate it up despite knowing the source).

They wanna steal one from us after we stole Payton.

OrlandO wrote:Better idea is to start AG at PF and see how that goes.

Exactly. Gordon is going to be a better PF than Noel. Likely a better player as well.

Noel is nice but he's a one way player with an injury history, skinny legs and undersized for his position (center). Good player to have on your team, but not the player for us. Save those assets for a big time player.

OrlandO wrote:Better idea is to start AG at PF and see how that goes.

If Orlando's losing streak continues, this is almost a Must scenario.


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Lazarustomb wrote:

OrlandO wrote:Better idea is to start AG at PF and see how that goes.

Exactly. Gordon is going to be a better PF than Noel. Likely a better player as well.

Noel is nice but he's a one way player with an injury history, skinny legs and undersized for his position (center). Good player to have on your team, but not the player for us. Save those assets for a big time player.

7' with a 7'4 wingspan is not undersized. 230 lbs is light, but nowadays with smaller lineups, his versatility is nice.

and i think Gordon ends up at SF. There has been plenty of minutes to play him at PF and we havent done it, so that tells me they dont want him at PF.

No. I think Gordon ends up at PF and no need for a backup PF with bad knees.

tiderulz wrote:

Lazarustomb wrote:

OrlandO wrote:Better idea is to start AG at PF and see how that goes.

Exactly. Gordon is going to be a better PF than Noel. Likely a better player as well.

Noel is nice but he's a one way player with an injury history, skinny legs and undersized for his position (center). Good player to have on your team, but not the player for us. Save those assets for a big time player.

7' with a 7'4 wingspan is not undersized. 230 lbs is light, but nowadays with smaller lineups, his versatility is nice.

and i think Gordon ends up at SF. There has been plenty of minutes to play him at PF and we havent done it, so that tells me they dont want him at PF.

Size isnt just about length. He is light and can be exposed by stronger centers. He gambles so much when he plays post defense its easy to see he's uncomfortable guarding players straight up when they have a weight advantage.

Just because Gordon isnt currently playing many minutes at PF doesnt mean he never will. He's a versatile forward that will play both positions. Draymond green played SF his first couple of years.

Lazarustomb wrote:

tiderulz wrote:

Lazarustomb wrote:Exactly. Gordon is going to be a better PF than Noel. Likely a better player as well.

Noel is nice but he's a one way player with an injury history, skinny legs and undersized for his position (center). Good player to have on your team, but not the player for us. Save those assets for a big time player.

7' with a 7'4 wingspan is not undersized. 230 lbs is light, but nowadays with smaller lineups, his versatility is nice.

and i think Gordon ends up at SF. There has been plenty of minutes to play him at PF and we havent done it, so that tells me they dont want him at PF.

Size isnt just about length. He is light and can be exposed by stronger centers. He gambles so much when he plays post defense its easy to see he's uncomfortable guarding players straight up when they have a weight advantage.

Just because Gordon isnt currently playing many minutes at PF doesnt mean he never will. He's a versatile forward that will play both positions. Draymond green played SF his first couple of years.

KAT is only 15 lbs heavier and everyone raves over him. And even Vucevic is getting bullied, so width wise size doesnt always help. As for gambling, playing on that team with deficient defensive players, i can see why he would.

and i still say Gordon ends up at SF not PF. he just doesnt have a PF's game.

Depending on what we would have to trade. It would be worth it. We need a PF like him in the starting line up.

I too believe AG should be our starting SF, sooner rather than later.

That leaves the up and down (yet still young and improving) Tobias Harris the odd man out.

But, I would not trade Harris for Noel.

tiderulz wrote:

Lazarustomb wrote:

tiderulz wrote:7' with a 7'4 wingspan is not undersized. 230 lbs is light, but nowadays with smaller lineups, his versatility is nice.

and i think Gordon ends up at SF. There has been plenty of minutes to play him at PF and we havent done it, so that tells me they dont want him at PF.

Size isnt just about length. He is light and can be exposed by stronger centers. He gambles so much when he plays post defense its easy to see he's uncomfortable guarding players straight up when they have a weight advantage.

Just because Gordon isnt currently playing many minutes at PF doesnt mean he never will. He's a versatile forward that will play both positions. Draymond green played SF his first couple of years.

KAT is only 15 lbs heavier and everyone raves over him. And even Vucevic is getting bullied, so width wise size doesnt always help. As for gambling, playing on that team with deficient defensive players, i can see why he would.

and i still say Gordon ends up at SF not PF. he just doesnt have a PF's game.

KAT is also 2 or 3 years younger and has a better frame to add weight. Vucevic holds his position in the post better than Noel. Noel gambling in the post has nothing to do with who he's playing with. Its clear he's uncomfortable guarding them straight up.
And gordon's game is far from a finished product. I dont expect him to be a great post player but welcome to the new NBA. Its not like people thought Green would be a PF.

tiderulz wrote:

Lazarustomb wrote:

OrlandO wrote:Better idea is to start AG at PF and see how that goes.

Exactly. Gordon is going to be a better PF than Noel. Likely a better player as well.

Noel is nice but he's a one way player with an injury history, skinny legs and undersized for his position (center). Good player to have on your team, but not the player for us. Save those assets for a big time player.

7' with a 7'4 wingspan is not undersized. 230 lbs is light, but nowadays with smaller lineups, his versatility is nice.

and i think Gordon ends up at SF. There has been plenty of minutes to play him at PF and we havent done it, so that tells me they dont want him at PF.

Yeah... we keep labeling him a PF around here, but that's not what is going on. Back in real world, Magic are grooming him for a SF, as out of top 10 lineups (by minutes he played) in SEVEN of them he is featured at SF next to Nicholson at PF and one of Vučević/Smith at C. In two cases he is playing next to Harris - and every time I've seen him there, Aaron is the one guarding wings - not Tobias. ONLY ONE LINEUP has Aaron playing PF next to Dedmon at C for a whooping 15mins in total this season.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gordoaa01/lineups/2016/

I'd take him if we had a trade for Vucevic lined up or it happened and they included Stauskais and rights to Saric/pick. It won't happen but that would be the price. They're in a problem with the 4 forwards they drafted, this gives them so flexibility and a good starter at worst in my opinion

(I'm a big fan of Tobias, just think he's the odd man out)

p0peye wrote:

tiderulz wrote:

Lazarustomb wrote:Exactly. Gordon is going to be a better PF than Noel. Likely a better player as well.

Noel is nice but he's a one way player with an injury history, skinny legs and undersized for his position (center). Good player to have on your team, but not the player for us. Save those assets for a big time player.

7' with a 7'4 wingspan is not undersized. 230 lbs is light, but nowadays with smaller lineups, his versatility is nice.

and i think Gordon ends up at SF. There has been plenty of minutes to play him at PF and we havent done it, so that tells me they dont want him at PF.

Yeah... we keep labeling him a PF around here, but that's not what is going on. Back in real world, Magic are grooming him for a SF, as out of top 10 lineups (by minutes he played) in SEVEN of them he is featured at SF next to Nicholson at PF and one of Vučević/Smith at C. In two cases he is playing next to Harris - and every time I've seen him there, Aaron is the one guarding wings - not Tobias. ONLY ONE LINEUP has Aaron playing PF next to Dedmon at C for a whooping 15mins in total this season.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gordoaa01/lineups/2016/

Its unclear to me whether he is being groomed as a 3 or 4. I think the organization remains undecided. I'm not saying you are wrong -- I'm just not certain which one.

Also, whenever he and Tobias are in the game it seems to me that they put AG on the tougher player to guard on defense as he is the better defender. It also seems to me that on offense AG has more of the 4 role. But, certainly, I think he has played more 3 minutes than 4 minutes overall.

As his minutes increase (hopefully) over the season it will be interesting to see how that progresses.