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With 10 days till the trade deadline, the rumor mill is as active as it ever has been for Orlando. Many here have proposed all kinds of trades. Here is a simple question: which one Magician is most likely to be in a given trade package?
Here is the full list, which is more options than RealGM allows (throw-in players edited out of poll):
Keith Appling
Dewayne Dedmon
Evan Fournier
Channing Frye
Aaron Gordon
Tobias Harris
Mario Hezonja
Devyn Marble
Shabazz Napier
Andrew Nicholson
Victor Oladipo
Elfrid Payton
Jason Smith
Nikola Vučević
C.J. Watson
(Not for the poll, but comments on what player you want Orlando to trade, rather than who you think will be traded, add to this conversation).
Here is the full list, which is more options than RealGM allows (throw-in players edited out of poll):
Keith Appling
Dewayne Dedmon
Evan Fournier
Channing Frye
Aaron Gordon
Tobias Harris
Mario Hezonja
Devyn Marble
Shabazz Napier
Andrew Nicholson
Victor Oladipo
Elfrid Payton
Jason Smith
Nikola Vučević
C.J. Watson
(Not for the poll, but comments on what player you want Orlando to trade, rather than who you think will be traded, add to this conversation).
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Frye please
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Frye by a mile. Wouldn't be surprised if Evan and Tobias are on the block
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In the order of probability. trade value, replaceability and being closer to peak are as multipliers.
Harris
Nicholson
Fournier
Watson
Dedmon
Marble
Shabazz
Oladipo
Frye
Smith
Elfrid
Vucevic
Hezonja
Gordon
Harris
Nicholson
Fournier
Watson
Dedmon
Marble
Shabazz
Oladipo
Frye
Smith
Elfrid
Vucevic
Hezonja
Gordon
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I think Harris, Frye, Fournier, Nicholson and Napier could all be on the block, equally.
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Bensational wrote:I think Harris, Frye, Fournier, Nicholson and Napier could all be on the block, equally.
This is exactly what I'm thinking. However, I think only Harris and Frye will end up being traded. Maybe a small chance one of the end of bench guys go for minimal return as well.
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i look at other lottery pick development, for example modiay
he play a lot and he mistake a lot,more than hezonja,much more than hezonja
but he played and now he make much less mistakes
and he is good but i think hezonja is better,but no under skiles
so,i would love for his sake to be traded
to learn more,not just play time,but learning things,and he is willing to learn
he play a lot and he mistake a lot,more than hezonja,much more than hezonja
but he played and now he make much less mistakes
and he is good but i think hezonja is better,but no under skiles
so,i would love for his sake to be traded
to learn more,not just play time,but learning things,and he is willing to learn
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My gut feeling is that Rob is stubborn is sticks with the team, and if he makes any moves it will most likely be Frye to a playoff team. Personally, I think he needs to trade at least one of the main rotation guys, mainly Tobias. I'm fine if Rob doesn't want to give up on most of the guys yet, but something a little bigger than just moving a bench player needs to happen. Again though, I doubt anything happens, and Rob pulls out his "process" bs again in the interviews.
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Harris hate on this site is strong
, he's best suited for another team. But I don't think he'd get traded.
Fournier is the prime candidate IMO.
Then Smith, useful cheap veteran that the team won't keep and won't change the prospect this year.
Frye fell out of rotation at the wrong time, not sure there's market for a guy that can't play on Magic.
Nappier, Nicholson are probably available if anyone wants them, maybe there's some market for them.
And there's always a team that could use athird string defensive center.

Fournier is the prime candidate IMO.
Then Smith, useful cheap veteran that the team won't keep and won't change the prospect this year.
Frye fell out of rotation at the wrong time, not sure there's market for a guy that can't play on Magic.
Nappier, Nicholson are probably available if anyone wants them, maybe there's some market for them.
And there's always a team that could use athird string defensive center.
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zelenooq wrote:i look at other lottery pick development, for example modiay
he play a lot and he mistake a lot,more than hezonja,much more than hezonja
but he played and now he make much less mistakes
and he is good but i think hezonja is better,but no under skiles
so,i would love for his sake to be traded
to learn more,not just play time,but learning things,and he is willing to learn
we get it, you want him traded.
but you might as well realize, that isnt happening for at least 2 more years.
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My thoughts: I see Frye as the most tradeable player, but I do not think that necessarily makes him the most likely to be traded. If the current use of Fournier at SF and Gordon at PF works for another couple games, then Frye becomes a key bench piece for the Magic's rotation, and makes both Oladipo and Fournier untradeable. What we are left with is Mr. Harris. For me Harris is the most traceable asset in that he has the smallest team-fit and can bring back the most return.
Still, I would love this in a larger package: Harris, Frye, Fournier, and two firsts for an awesome PF. That is my dream.
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Still, I would love this in a larger package: Harris, Frye, Fournier, and two firsts for an awesome PF. That is my dream.
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I voted Frye, but I really don't know how Harris or Frye would react if just one of them gets traded.
IMO, the players in the block are:
Channing Frye
Tobias Harris
Andrew Nicholson
Jason Smith
And as fillers:
Keith Appling
Dewayne Dedmon
Devyn Marble
Shabazz Napier
IMO, the players in the block are:
Channing Frye
Tobias Harris
Andrew Nicholson
Jason Smith
And as fillers:
Keith Appling
Dewayne Dedmon
Devyn Marble
Shabazz Napier
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Frye and Harris for me...
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I think Rob Hennigan is definitely going to explore his options.
At the same time, you cannot make a trade to make a trade. It's a bad idea.
I do feel the following players could be on the block in this order.
Evan Fournier or Victor Oladipo
Everyone knows it is highly unlikely The Magic are going to keep both Victor Oladipo and Evan Fournier. Magic GM Rob Hennigan says he wants to keep Fournier but that might be him not wanting to play his hand as he needs to make a decision on Fournier this summer and likely Oladipo too.
If Fournier is re-signed, most are going to guess Oladipo is gone and that might lower his trade value a little bit if teams do not feel The Magic would match offers for Oladipo in 2017.
This is why a decision on both could come by the summer and now might be the best time to make a move so they keep the one they want and get value for the other.
What the market is for both is a question though. It would be nice to grab a defensive big if they cannot package one of them to get a star player which is unlikely. The key here will be maximizing the asset.
It's really a question of what the market is though.
Dewayne Dedmon
I highly doubt The Magic will be able/will want too re-sign him and I am sure some teams are going to see Dedmon as a sleeper option this summer in free agency. Some team might offer a second round pick for him so they can take a look at him and with Dedmon becoming a Restricted free agent, they would be able to match offers if they give him a qualifying offer. This could make him a little more valuable and could be a good throw-in for a bigger trade.
Channing Frye
Contenders want him. What are they willing to give though?
Maybe The Magic want to free up a little spending money? I do not expect a lot.
They are not going to get a first round pick, maybe two seconds and an expiring contract is doable.
It's also possible they deal for another bench player. They also could try to get an under the radar young player from another team but I doubt they can fetch one for Frye and even if they could, I also doubt they could get anyone good.
Some seconds and an expiring contract is probably max value here. I only see a deal if Frye's in a bigger deal or The Magic want to shave some money off the cap next season.
Tobias Harris
Many of us have been split on how Harris fits in.
He is definitely a good player and The Magic could not let a talent like him get away.
However, I think he is more of a sixth man off the bench who should mostly play the 4 spot in this smaller league. Long-term, I see Mario Hezonja at the SF spot and Harris off the bench if he sticks around.
The contract he got this summer was for his upside. However, The Magic need to see if he could be dealt for a better fit or package to try and get that star player.
I am not saying deal but options need to be explored here.
Andrew Nicholson
Going into this season, no player was more sure to be gone at season's end then Andrew Nicholson.
I have never been high on him even when he had his stretch in the rotation and did not feel The Magic should have ever picked up his 4th year option.
If they could have traded him this summer, they would have.
Given how he is an expiring contract, Nicholson could be a throw-in to help make the salaries match in a trade.
Other than a salary matcher for a trade or luxury tax move, the only other value Nicholson has is if a team likes him and is willing to swap a player they do not want like an end of the bench veteran for him. For old time Magic fans, think the Shammond Williams for Sean Rooks deadline deal in 2004.
All in all, Dedmon and Nicholson might be the two most likely players to move and I think The Magic would pull the trigger if they find a deal like mentioned above for either in separate small trades.
Whether they make a move with Fournier, Oladipo, Harris and/or Frye will be about the market and if the right trade is out there.
At the same time, you cannot make a trade to make a trade. It's a bad idea.
I do feel the following players could be on the block in this order.
Evan Fournier or Victor Oladipo
Everyone knows it is highly unlikely The Magic are going to keep both Victor Oladipo and Evan Fournier. Magic GM Rob Hennigan says he wants to keep Fournier but that might be him not wanting to play his hand as he needs to make a decision on Fournier this summer and likely Oladipo too.
If Fournier is re-signed, most are going to guess Oladipo is gone and that might lower his trade value a little bit if teams do not feel The Magic would match offers for Oladipo in 2017.
This is why a decision on both could come by the summer and now might be the best time to make a move so they keep the one they want and get value for the other.
What the market is for both is a question though. It would be nice to grab a defensive big if they cannot package one of them to get a star player which is unlikely. The key here will be maximizing the asset.
It's really a question of what the market is though.
Dewayne Dedmon
I highly doubt The Magic will be able/will want too re-sign him and I am sure some teams are going to see Dedmon as a sleeper option this summer in free agency. Some team might offer a second round pick for him so they can take a look at him and with Dedmon becoming a Restricted free agent, they would be able to match offers if they give him a qualifying offer. This could make him a little more valuable and could be a good throw-in for a bigger trade.
Channing Frye
Contenders want him. What are they willing to give though?
Maybe The Magic want to free up a little spending money? I do not expect a lot.
They are not going to get a first round pick, maybe two seconds and an expiring contract is doable.
It's also possible they deal for another bench player. They also could try to get an under the radar young player from another team but I doubt they can fetch one for Frye and even if they could, I also doubt they could get anyone good.
Some seconds and an expiring contract is probably max value here. I only see a deal if Frye's in a bigger deal or The Magic want to shave some money off the cap next season.
Tobias Harris
Many of us have been split on how Harris fits in.
He is definitely a good player and The Magic could not let a talent like him get away.
However, I think he is more of a sixth man off the bench who should mostly play the 4 spot in this smaller league. Long-term, I see Mario Hezonja at the SF spot and Harris off the bench if he sticks around.
The contract he got this summer was for his upside. However, The Magic need to see if he could be dealt for a better fit or package to try and get that star player.
I am not saying deal but options need to be explored here.
Andrew Nicholson
Going into this season, no player was more sure to be gone at season's end then Andrew Nicholson.
I have never been high on him even when he had his stretch in the rotation and did not feel The Magic should have ever picked up his 4th year option.
If they could have traded him this summer, they would have.
Given how he is an expiring contract, Nicholson could be a throw-in to help make the salaries match in a trade.
Other than a salary matcher for a trade or luxury tax move, the only other value Nicholson has is if a team likes him and is willing to swap a player they do not want like an end of the bench veteran for him. For old time Magic fans, think the Shammond Williams for Sean Rooks deadline deal in 2004.
All in all, Dedmon and Nicholson might be the two most likely players to move and I think The Magic would pull the trigger if they find a deal like mentioned above for either in separate small trades.
Whether they make a move with Fournier, Oladipo, Harris and/or Frye will be about the market and if the right trade is out there.
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drsd wrote:My thoughts: I see Frye as the most tradeable player, but I do not think that necessarily makes him the most likely to be traded. If the current use of Fournier at SF and Gordon at PF works for another couple games, then Frye becomes a key bench piece for the Magic's rotation, and makes both Oladipo and Fournier untradeable. What we are left with is Mr. Harris. For me Harris is the most traceable asset in that he has the smallest team-fit and can bring back the most return.
Still, I would love this in a larger package: Harris, Frye, Fournier, and two firsts for an awesome PF. That is my dream.
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I like everything about that minus the firsts.
Even though this team has enough talent, it's not good to deal draft picks.
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It interests me that some believe that Smith is on the block. For me his performance has made him almost untradeable. Relative to salary, he is quite untradeable. Would the Magic "throw him in" to a Griffin trade? Of course yes. But that he himself is a target to be traded, I am not so sure about that.
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Channing Frye??? Seriously? Who gonna be interested with him? Vucevic is the top player here that most teams will be interested in. The rest are just fillers.
I just hope we get a fair deal if the Magic go and part with him. Portland could be a good destination for him. Get Plumlee and Vonleh for him.
I just hope we get a fair deal if the Magic go and part with him. Portland could be a good destination for him. Get Plumlee and Vonleh for him.
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NBAchamps2017 wrote:Channing Frye??? Seriously? Who gonna be interested with him? Vucevic is the top player here that most teams will be interested in. The rest are just fillers.
I just hope we get a fair deal if the Magic go and part with him. Portland could be a good destination for him. Get Plumlee and Vonleh for him.
Plumlee and Vonleh for Vucevic???!!!!

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NBAchamps2017 wrote:Channing Frye??? Seriously? Who gonna be interested with him? Vucevic is the top player here that most teams will be interested in. The rest are just fillers.
I just hope we get a fair deal if the Magic go and part with him. Portland could be a good destination for him. Get Plumlee and Vonleh for him.
Frye is the only guy on the team that's has been mentioned in any trade rumors.
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NBAchamps2017 wrote: Vucevic is the top player here that most teams will be interested in.
I don't think many teams would be interested. His style of play isn't conducive to winning.
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