Orlando Magic Free Agency Guide 2016

[Melvinlocker]

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Numbers from spotrac.
http://www.spotrac.com/nba/orlando-magic/cap/2016/


Total Committed Dollars (after this season) - $44,908,271

Nikola Vucevic $11,750,000
Ersan Ilyasova $8,400,000
Victor Oladipo $6,552,960
C.J. Watson $5,000,000
Aaron Gordon $4,351,320
Mario Hezonja $3,909,840
Elfrid Payton $2,613,600
Shabazz Napier $1,350,120
Devyn Marble $980,431

Cap space w/o cap holds- $44,091,729
Cap space with cap holds- $12,546,860
Cap space if we renounce everyone except Fournier- $38,371,216

Key information

-Evan Fournier's cap hold- $5,720,513
-Ersan Ilaysova's buyout would add $8,000,000 in additional cap space.
-Marble is non-guaranteed.
-Keep in my that we can make trades around the draft.
-Draft picks- Orlando 1st and 2nd and a 2nd from either Chicago or Portland (whichever is higher).


Notes
*spotrac uses 89 million dollar cap projection and NBA projecting 92 million cap. Some GM's expecting 95 million. Link below
**spotrac numbers don't account for 2016 draft picks.


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[LetItRain]

Top 2016 Free Agents - http://hoopshype.com/2016/01/16/nba-free-agency-2016-the-top-players/

Top 2017 Free Agents - http://hoopshype.com/2015/12/30/nba-free-agency-2017-the-top-players/

[tooler]

Please add "likely" cap room when we renounce everyone but Fournier.

[Melvinlocker]

Please add "likely" cap room when we renounce everyone but Fournier.

Done.

[rcklsscognition]

So 1 superstar + 2nd tier player or 1 superstar plus fournier if we strike out.

[TodGre]

I'm afraid this is what we might go after come summer. Is he the stretch 4 that we really want next to Vuc though?

https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/700380646271799296

[rcklsscognition]

This is from Basketball Insiders based off 90 million cap. This was done last year, so some of the names aren't eligible now.

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/projecting-2015-2016-max-salary-tiers/

2016-17 Bottom Tier (~$21.0 Million)

Anthony Davis (RFA) – New Orleans Pelicans

Damian Lillard (RFA) – Portland Trail Blazers

Andre Drummond (RFA) – Detroit Pistons

Hassan Whiteside – Miami HEAT

Bradley Beal (RFA) – Washington Wizards

Harrison Barnes (RFA) – Golden State Warriors

Jonas Valanciunas (RFA) – Toronto Raptors

2016-17 Middle Tier (~$25.3 Million)

Kevin Durant – Oklahoma City Thunder

Joakim Noah – Chicago Bulls

Al Horford – Atlanta Hawks

Mike Conley – Memphis Grizzlies

DeMar DeRozan (PO) – Toronto Raptors

Danilo Gallinari – Denver Nuggets

Ryan Anderson – New Orleans Pelicans

Brandon Jennings – Detroit Pistons

Nicolas Batum – Portland Trail Blazers

2016-17 Top Tier (~$29.5 Million)

Kobe Bryant – Los Angeles Lakers

Dwight Howard (PO) – Houston Rockets

Pau Gasol (PO) – Chicago Bulls

Nene – Washington Wizards

Joe Johnson, Deron Williams (early termination option) – Brooklyn Nets

[Melvinlocker]

I'm afraid this is what we might go after come summer. Is he the stretch 4 that we really want next to Vuc though?

https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/700380646271799296

Keep in mind that Vuc could be traded around the draft for another player. Our roster may look very different after the draft day.

[tooler]

I like Vooch, but who's to say we don't trade him if we sign Horford? His contract should fetch something pretty good.

What sucks is that if Vucevic would just be more consistent on defense, we'd have roughly the same player at half the cost. (I suppose that's the definition of a one-way player!)

[ezzzp]

Marble is also not guaranteed

[Melvinlocker]

Marble is also not guaranteed

Noted.

[tooler]

Yeah, still need a final number (underlined and bolded ) after waiving Marble and Ilyasova. That's the most likely scenario if we want to be major players.

47 million dollars. Come and get it in Orlando.

[TodGre]

I like Vooch, but who's to say we don't trade him if we sign Horford? His contract should fetch something pretty good.

What sucks is that if Vucevic would just be more consistent on defense, we'd have roughly the same player at half the cost. (I suppose that's the definition of a one-way player!)

Why not just keep Vuc? What does Horford really do that Vucevic doesn't? Plus Vuc is on a much better contract and is 4-5 yrs younger. I would rather try to find a defensive PF, or try A. Gordon at the PF more. Maybe get a defensive PF in the draft, or wait till 2017 summer and make a run at Ibaka?

[ezzzp]

Keeping Fournier and renouncing everyone including Marble and Ilyasova leaves the Magic with roughly $47 million.

Plus, they can also stretch Watson (1.7/1.7/1.7) and Napier (0.5/0.5/0.5) - if needed - for an additional $4 million in cap space.

The Magic can have a rough total of $51 million to spend. They can then spend over the cap to retain Fournier if they want.

[J-Ville Smoke]

Seems like our absolute, realistic best bet is a Horford/Barnes offseason, and going over the cap to re-sign Evan.

Payton/Watson
Oladipo/Fournier
Barnes/Hezonja
Horford/Gordon
Vucevic/Smith

Hopefully we can trade Dipo for a big man or chance to move up in the draft to get one.

[Viper1500]

51 million to spend...

Payton/Watson
Oladipo/Fournier
Hezonja
Gordon
Vucevic

Where is this 51 million going? The only position I could see upgrading is pg. I'm not a fan of giving a SF max cash when Hezonja isn't far from being ready to start.

[Viper1500]

Seems like our absolute, realistic best bet is a Horford/Barnes offseason, and going over the cap to re-sign Evan.

Payton/Watson
Oladipo/Fournier
Barnes/Hezonja
Horford/Gordon
Vucevic/Smith

Hopefully we can trade Dipo for a big man or chance to move up in the draft to get one.

This puts Hezonja/Gordon on the bench for 3-4 years...

[Magic#1]

Um, why not keep both Horford and Vooch? Horf has only played the 5 because of Millsap. I think he's our likely target since we went after Millsap last year and then we look like Vooch/Horf/AG/Dipo/EP with Hezonja cWoming off the bench. We need to forget about Durant. Will we try? Of course. But as of now it has less than a 1% chance of happening. Now, if we don't make the playoffs and get incredibly lucky in the lottery and can get a guy like Simmons? Then maybe Durant thinks about it, but the odds of that happening as of now are probably less than 1%. The Hawks don't seem committed to their team anymore and Horford will probably want a big deal. Maybe he looks to a contender, but I think we would have a good shot at him. The other option is we throw a ton of money at Barnes and put AG at the four. Tough call with Barnes, but somebody is going to probably do it.

[OrlChamps2030]

Is Horford really a PF at this point of his career?

Id love Mike Conley. Outside of him, im not huge on the "stars" in this class outside of the obvious (kd,derozan). I do like some of the role players, like Mahimni.

If we miss, i just hope we dont blow our load on 2nd or even 3rd tier guys. Just wait it out.

[904Magic]

Conley, Batum, Barnes, and Derozan would all be worth going after. IDK about giving Barnes max money though.