Frank's coaching staff thread....

Nemesis21 · Post #1 » by **Nemesis21** » Fri May 20, 2016 9:04 pm

Who are some names the Magic and Vogel will be looking at? I'd like to see Adrian stay, but no hard feelings if he doesn't. We'll need an offensive assistant(s).

Nyce_1 · Post #2 » by **Nyce_1** » Fri May 20, 2016 11:20 pm

I quietly hope Rob's interview with Vanterpool was to gauge if he'd be a fit as potential lead assistant. Seeing his work with Dame & CJ is encouraging.

Shaw is probably waiting on an offer from us. He was Frank's lead assistant and had a hand in PG's development. Also can implement some triangle for our offense.

Frank said he'd work with Rob and Scott Perry to pick his staff so anything is possible.

Post #3 » by **SOUL** » Sat May 21, 2016 12:58 pm

anybody but monte mathis aka your local dealer

basketballRob · Post #4 » by **basketballRob** » Sat May 21, 2016 1:12 pm

Griffin's going to the TWolves to be an assistant.

thelead · Post #5 » by **thelead** » Sat May 21, 2016 1:30 pm

basketballRob wrote:Griffin's going to the TWolves to be an assistant.

Is that official? Makes sense though

AdamTheGreek · Post #6 » by **AdamTheGreek** » Sat May 21, 2016 1:55 pm

Vanterpool would be a hell of a get for our guards. Has the background with Rob. Part of the Ettore Messina tree. Doing perceived wonders in Portland.

I know he hasn't coached since 2013, but I could see Vogel reaching out to Jim O'Brien as sort of a payback for helping Frank multiple times over the span of a decade.

basketballRob · Post #7 » by **basketballRob** » Sat May 21, 2016 1:57 pm

I heard it on 580 yesterday. One of the guys spilled the beans and the other one said he wasn't supposed to say anything about that until it was officially signed. Sounded like they had a credible inside source, maybe even Adrian himself.

Rick Rolled · Post #8 » by **Rick Rolled** » Sat May 21, 2016 2:02 pm

basketballRob wrote:I heard it on 580 yesterday. One of the guys spilled the beans and the other one said he wasn't officially supposed to say anything about that until it was officially signed. Sounded like they had a credible inside source, maybe even Adrian himself.

Good info.

Definitely assumed Thibs would scoop him back up.

I'd keep an eye on Vanterpool and JB Bickerstaff as potential lead assistants.

I doubt any of our current assistants come back, although when JV got fired, Laron Profit and Jay Hernandez made it to Skiles staff.

Seeing how Hernandez was Tobias' personal coach before taking the Magic job, I doubt he survives the cut this time.

fendilim · Post #9 » by **fendilim** » Sat May 21, 2016 2:21 pm

I'd love to have Shaw here, I really think he should be the priority, if Indiana's offense was his brainchild.

This team doesn't have a legit go-to scorer, similar with Indiana. And for Indiana to have found success built that way, I think would say a lot as to how they executed their offense.

Also, he's background with the Triangle would do wonders for us.

I highly doubt Griffin comes back. I don't think Frank would even be comfortable working with Griffin.

Nemesis21 · Post #10 » by **Nemesis21** » Sat May 21, 2016 2:32 pm

SOUL wrote:anybody but monte mathis aka your local dealer

Nemesis21 · Post #11 » by **Nemesis21** » Sat May 21, 2016 2:36 pm

fendilim wrote:I'd love to have Shaw here, I really think he should be the priority, if Indiana's offense was his brainchild.

This team doesn't have a legit go-to scorer, similar with Indiana. And for Indiana to have found success built that way, I think would say a lot as to how they executed their offense.

Also, he's background with the Triangle would do wonders for us.

I highly doubt Griffin comes back. I don't think Frank would even be comfortable working with Griffin.

Why do you say that? :dontknow:

fendilim · Post #12 » by **fendilim** » Sat May 21, 2016 2:50 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:
fendilim wrote:I'd love to have Shaw here, I really think he should be the priority, if Indiana's offense was his brainchild.

This team doesn't have a legit go-to scorer, similar with Indiana. And for Indiana to have found success built that way, I think would say a lot as to how they executed their offense.

Also, he's background with the Triangle would do wonders for us.

I highly doubt Griffin comes back. I don't think Frank would even be comfortable working with Griffin.

Why do you say that?

It was Griffin's job to lose.

Nemesis21 · Post #13 » by **Nemesis21** » Sat May 21, 2016 3:29 pm

fendilim wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:
fendilim wrote:I'd love to have Shaw here, I really think he should be the priority, if Indiana's offense was his brainchild.

This team doesn't have a legit go-to scorer, similar with Indiana. And for Indiana to have found success built that way, I think would say a lot as to how they executed their offense.

Also, he's background with the Triangle would do wonders for us.

I highly doubt Griffin comes back. I don't think Frank would even be comfortable working with Griffin.

Why do you say that?
It was Griffin's job to lose.

Says who? The media? They were Rob's top 2 choices, but I doubt they dislike each other, just because one got the job and the other didn't.

tiderulz · Post #14 » by **tiderulz** » Sat May 21, 2016 4:05 pm

fendilim wrote:I'd love to have Shaw here, I really think he should be the priority, if Indiana's offense was his brainchild.

This team doesn't have a legit go-to scorer, similar with Indiana. And for Indiana to have found success built that way, I think would say a lot as to how they executed their offense.

Also, he's background with the Triangle would do wonders for us.

I highly doubt Griffin comes back. I don't think Frank would even be comfortable working with Griffin.

not sure i want us using the Triangle offense.

Nyce_1 · Post #15 » by **Nyce_1** » Sat May 21, 2016 4:05 pm

Shaw hasn't accepted the Lakers offer yet. Maybe he's waiting to hear from Vogel?

Also read this nugget after Shaw was fired:
Brian Shaw was a very popular figure on the team. He was largely credited with mentoring Lance Stephenson from a second-round pick who barely played in his first two years to an imposing two-way guard who was close to making an All-Star team in 2014. Paul George also praised Shaw for helping him develop into a superstar.

The Pacers were having practice news of his firing broke, and according to Scott Agness of Vigilant Sports, it wasn’t just West who was upset. All the players who played under Shaw didn’t like the news.

chosen12141 · Post #16 » by **chosen12141** » Sat May 21, 2016 8:11 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:Shaw hasn't accepted the Lakers offer yet. Maybe he's waiting to hear from Vogel?

Also read this nugget after Shaw was fired:
Brian Shaw was a very popular figure on the team. He was largely credited with mentoring Lance Stephenson from a second-round pick who barely played in his first two years to an imposing two-way guard who was close to making an All-Star team in 2014. Paul George also praised Shaw for helping him develop into a superstar.

The Pacers were having practice news of his firing broke, and according to Scott Agness of Vigilant Sports, it wasn’t just West who was upset. All the players who played under Shaw didn’t like the news.

Well Nyce_1, my old friend, this is a very good piece of information especially when Shaw was being considered for so many H/C positions around the league! Here is what scares me at the end of the day, if Vogel brings in Shaw, that may be the signal that another headcase is on the way, and it SMELLS LIKE DWIGHT TO ME....if it happens!! What do you think? :banghead:

Nyce_1 · Post #17 » by **Nyce_1** » Sat May 21, 2016 8:26 pm

chosen12141 wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:Shaw hasn't accepted the Lakers offer yet. Maybe he's waiting to hear from Vogel?

Also read this nugget after Shaw was fired:
Brian Shaw was a very popular figure on the team. He was largely credited with mentoring Lance Stephenson from a second-round pick who barely played in his first two years to an imposing two-way guard who was close to making an All-Star team in 2014. Paul George also praised Shaw for helping him develop into a superstar.

The Pacers were having practice news of his firing broke, and according to Scott Agness of Vigilant Sports, it wasn’t just West who was upset. All the players who played under Shaw didn’t like the news.

Well Nyce_1, my old friend, this is a very good piece of information especially when Shaw was being considered for so many H/C positions around the league! Here is what scares me at the end of the day, if Vogel brings in Shaw, that may be the signal that another headcase is on the way, and it SMELLS LIKE DWIGHT TO ME....if it happens!! What do you think?

I don't think that 1 equals the other. I also do not think Dwight will be welcomed back. However, if he is, Vogel & Shaw are a good tandem to get Dwight to buy in.

chosen12141 · Post #18 » by **chosen12141** » Sat May 21, 2016 8:48 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:
chosen12141 wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:Shaw hasn't accepted the Lakers offer yet. Maybe he's waiting to hear from Vogel?

Also read this nugget after Shaw was fired:
Brian Shaw was a very popular figure on the team. He was largely credited with mentoring Lance Stephenson from a second-round pick who barely played in his first two years to an imposing two-way guard who was close to making an All-Star team in 2014. Paul George also praised Shaw for helping him develop into a superstar.

The Pacers were having practice news of his firing broke, and according to Scott Agness of Vigilant Sports, it wasn’t just West who was upset. All the players who played under Shaw didn’t like the news.

Well Nyce_1, my old friend, this is a very good piece of information especially when Shaw was being considered for so many H/C positions around the league! Here is what scares me at the end of the day, if Vogel brings in Shaw, that may be the signal that another headcase is on the way, and it SMELLS LIKE DWIGHT TO ME....if it happens!! What do you think?

I don't think that 1 equals the other. I also do not think Dwight will be welcomed back. However, if he is, Vogel & Shaw are a good tandem to get Dwight to buy in.

Well, I am reaching here, but that is only because I am still slightly traumatized from our DWIGHTMARE PERIOD!! lol

Nyce_1 · Post #19 » by **Nyce_1** » Sat May 21, 2016 9:05 pm

chosen12141 wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:
chosen12141 wrote:

Well Nyce_1, my old friend, this is a very good piece of information especially when Shaw was being considered for so many H/C positions around the league! Here is what scares me at the end of the day, if Vogel brings in Shaw, that may be the signal that another headcase is on the way, and it SMELLS LIKE DWIGHT TO ME....if it happens!! What do you think?

I don't think that 1 equals the other. I also do not think Dwight will be welcomed back. However, if he is, Vogel & Shaw are a good tandem to get Dwight to buy in.

Well, I am reaching here, but that is only because I am still slightly traumatized from our DWIGHTMARE PERIOD!! lol

it was ugly for everyone. no secret he wants to come home. If Rob does it (highly doubt), I trust him and believe Dwight won't be a problem here.

purpleswordfish · Post #20 » by **purpleswordfish** » Sat May 21, 2016 9:15 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:I quietly hope Rob's interview with Vanterpool was to gauge if he'd be a fit as potential lead assistant. Seeing his work with Dame & CJ is encouraging.

Shaw is probably waiting on an offer from us. He was Frank's lead assistant and had a hand in PG's development. Also can implement some triangle for our offense.

Frank said he'd work with Rob and Scott Perry to pick his staff so anything is possible.

Triangle offense? With Elfrid Payton who can't shoot? :lol: