Millsap or Ibaka

Kodak Black · Post #1 » by **Kodak Black** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 2:16 pm

Which one would you have preferred to have joined us this off-season?

paperboymafia · Post #2 » by **paperboymafia** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 2:22 pm

Ignoring contract situations - Ibaka because we were in dire need of interior defense/presence.

OrlDave · Post #3 » by **OrlDave** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 2:25 pm

paperboymafia wrote:Ignoring contract situations - Ibaka because we were in dire need of interior defense/presence.

Agreed, all things being equal in the contract arena Ibaka is the better choice and he's younger.

KingRobb02 · Post #4 » by **KingRobb02** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 2:25 pm

Millsap is much better on defense than Ibaka at this point in their careers. Plus there are doubts about Serge's age.

thelead · Post #5 » by **thelead** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 2:26 pm

Why can't we have both

OrlandO · Post #6 » by **OrlandO** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 2:28 pm

Ibaka because we'll want to re-sign him and he'll cost less. 33-36 year old Millsap on a 10+ year vet max contract does not sound like a good idea...

paperboymafia · Post #7 » by **paperboymafia** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 2:30 pm

KingRobb02 wrote:Millsap is much better on defense than Ibaka at this point in their careers. Plus there are doubts about Serge's age.

Just because a few African born players have been known to do so - let's not be so hasty as to assume they all do it.

tooler · Post #8 » by **tooler** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 2:31 pm

THIS offseason? Ibaka because a death lineup with him at the 5 sounds great. Both have one year deals effectively. Ibaka's connection to Hennigan is nice. Millsap is more of a mercenary.

But I'd much rather have Millsap at 4/80 starting last season. We'd still have Tobias and Oladipo or have traded them for greater value instead of desperation. We would have made the playoffs. Downside is Skiles might be the coach.

OrlDave · Post #9 » by **OrlDave** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 2:31 pm

KingRobb02 wrote:Millsap is much better on defense than Ibaka at this point in their careers. Plus there are doubts about Serge's age.

Yes I'm sure he's 31... :roll:

tf407 · Post #10 » by **tf407** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 2:32 pm

KingRobb02 wrote:Millsap is much better on defense than Ibaka at this point in their careers. Plus there are doubts about Serge's age.

I think you got the names mixed up as it's the exact opposite from what you said. Ibaka is better defensively and younger

Nemesis21 · Post #11 » by **Nemesis21** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 2:33 pm

Easy, Ibaka.

Magic#1 · Post #12 » by **Magic#1** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 2:34 pm

I don't even like the trade and I say Ibaka.

The Real Dalic · Post #13 » by **The Real Dalic** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 2:35 pm

OrlDave wrote:
KingRobb02 wrote:Millsap is much better on defense than Ibaka at this point in their careers. Plus there are doubts about Serge's age.

Yes I'm sure he's 31...

Just ignore him, he's always cynical and negative about the Magic. If Ibaka was still in OKC, he'd probably say it's close and choose Ibaka because of age.

KingRobb02 · Post #14 » by **KingRobb02** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 2:35 pm

paperboymafia wrote:
KingRobb02 wrote:Millsap is much better on defense than Ibaka at this point in their careers. Plus there are doubts about Serge's age.

Just because a few African born players have been known to do so - let's not be so hasty as to assume they all do it.

It's not just that. I've just seen some articles pointing out his progression curve matches better with him peaking 4 years ago. Plus other stuff like his 10 year old daughter, the breakdown in the way he moves, etc.

The Real Dalic · Post #15 » by **The Real Dalic** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 2:36 pm

I like Milsap for his offense and Ibaka for his defense.

OrlChamps2030 · Post #16 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 2:36 pm

Millsap is a better player than Ibaka, but hes older and will get paid more next season. I also like Ibaka's ability to play C.

It's crazy how underrated Millsap is on defense though.

Give us both, Rob!

The Real Dalic · Post #17 » by **The Real Dalic** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 2:39 pm

Zmill wrote:Millsap is a better player than Ibaka, but hes older and will get paid more next season. I also like Ibaka's ability to play C.

It's crazy how underrated Millsap is on defense though.

Give us both, Rob!

Both Hawks bigs are pretty underrated defensively.

KingRobb02 · Post #18 » by **KingRobb02** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 2:41 pm

tf407 wrote:
KingRobb02 wrote:Millsap is much better on defense than Ibaka at this point in their careers. Plus there are doubts about Serge's age.

I think you got the names mixed up as it's the exact opposite from what you said. Ibaka is better defensively and younger

Millsap was 3rd among PFs in DRPM, Ibaka was 39th
Millsap averaged 2.5 blocks and 2.7 steals (!!!) per 36, Ibaka averaged 2.8 blocks and .7
Steals are more valuable than blocks since they guarantee a change of posession
Hawks were #2 defense, the Thunder were #12
Millsap had 6 defensive win shares, Ibaka had 3

Where is the confusion coming from?

BadMofoPimp · Post #19 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 2:42 pm

I chose Ibaka cuz he is on the Magic.

fendilim · Post #20 » by **fendilim** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 2:44 pm

Should be more like Kristaps or Ibaka, IMO.