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With all the heat Hennigan has been getting in the press this off season, I think he is one our best next to John Gabriel!

But the one who takes the cake is Otis Smith, who has overpaid for Rashard Lewis and not drafting decent talent over his tenure.

Daniel Orton over Hassan Whiteside and Courtney Lee over DeAndre Jordan to name a few!

You know, Otis Smith built an Eastern Conference champion right? But I'm sure people in here think Rob Hennigan and his 28 wins average is our best ever right? The best GM we had here was Gabriel, he built the mid 90's squad and kept us somewhat competitive after O'Neal skipped town.


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T-Cat wrote:With all the heat Hennigan has been getting in the press this off season, I think he is one our best next to John Gabriel!

But the one who takes the cake is Otis Smith, who has overpaid for Rashard Lewis and not drafting decent talent over his tenure.

Daniel Orton over Hassan Whiteside and Courtney Lee over DeAndre Jordan to name a few!

I thought it's widely agreed upon that the worst was The Hockey Guy, ain't it?

Hockey guy was horrible. When he traded for Christie, I knew he was a total moron.

Totally different era now so it's tough to judge Rob compared to Gabriel. But I'd put Gabriel at #1. The only problem is he did not fight hard enough to keep Shaq and we blew that negotiation. That was a major black mark. To his credit, he built our greatest roster of all time, so he has to be #1 for that.

Otis comes in #2 because he pushed for drafting Dwight, which brought us back to life. Unfortunately, he also made some really bad trades and built a team of guys who couldn't iso, so our spread 4 offense was figured out and shut down after we hit the Finals.

Rob has a chance to be our best GM if things turn around this season. If Gordon blows up and becomes a star, I think Rob will also start getting a lot more respect around the league. Mostly everyone panned that pick.

Hockey guy drafted Dwight, Jameer, and signed Turk... It's hard to call him the worst. The TMac deal was horrible though.

Gabriel was pretty good at most things but couldn't draft outside of the lottery... Like at all.

I was Otis' #1 hater but he did sign our best coach (albeit after signing someone else who quit in a few days).

Rob will probably go down as the worst if at least one of Mario, AG or Elf do not turn into all-stars.

As of now, as much as I like most of Rob's moves, I would probably go with him for now due to lack of all-star and horrible winning percentage (even though it was planned).

Hockey guy did what he was supposed to. I don 't see any reason why he is the worst then.

Every GM has its faults, thats why they were fired.

I really like what Gabe did, he almost landed TD and looking back, landing Grant Hill and TMac at that time was a steal for him. His major flaw was his talent evaluation, but his plan to land big time free agent worked for him.

Otis was pretty good too in the beginning.

It is Rob Hennigan at the moment until he proves otherwise. I feel he has taken a good leap towards earning some respect this season. Time will tell how the moves he made will work but I'm very excited and intrigued by our off-season. Landing Vogel was one hell of a mulligan for this franchise.

Kinda crazy how few GMs we've had actually.

OrlDave wrote:Kinda crazy how few GMs we've had actually.

I like this post as it reveals that Orlando hasn't had a horrible GM. Who was the worst?

Recent press that Shaq wanted to sign and was given a 50%-market value offer. Sorry but for me it's gotta be John Gabriel. He was at the helm during the fall of what could have been a great team.


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thelead wrote:Hockey guy drafted Dwight, Jameer, and signed Turk... It's hard to call him the worst. The TMac deal was horrible though.

Gabriel was pretty good at most things but couldn't draft outside of the lottery... Like at all.

I was Otis' #1 hater but he did sign our best coach (albeit after signing someone else who quit in a few days).

Rob will probably go down as the worst if at least one of Mario, AG or Elf do not turn into all-stars.

As of now, as much as I like most of Rob's moves, I would probably go with him for now due to lack of all-star and horrible winning percentage (even though it was planned).

Otis was behind the draft honestly. Hockey guy gets credit only because he listened to Otis and didn't screw up submitting the players names.

Otis the worst? Wtf are you smoking? I'd venture to say Otis was better than hennigan, who is massively overrated on this board. Otis built an eastern conference champion. Yeah he overpaid for Rashard, but that justified because of the finals berth. He didn't draft Jordan? Neither did 29 other GM's. Hell, his own team didn't draft him with their first pick either... Whiteside bounced around the WORLD before coming into his own. The only downfall Otis had was trading second rounders for nothing. Trading for arenas and Turk was on Dwight. Otis knew his ass was on the line so he tried to appease Dwight to no avail. Up until Dwight started bitching, Otis had a clear plan: have everyone expire the same time Dwight and Chris Paul did, and try to lure Paul to Orlando. That's why we didn't re-sign Turk.

Anyways, worst GM has to be weisbrod. Best is between gabe and Otis, with the nod going to gabe.

NEM wrote:Otis the worst? Wtf are you smoking? I'd venture to say Otis was better than hennigan, who is massively overrated on this board. Otis built an eastern conference champion. Yeah he overpaid for Rashard, but that justified because of the finals berth. He didn't draft Jordan? Neither did 29 other GM's. Hell, his own team didn't draft him with their first pick either... Whiteside bounced around the WORLD before coming into his own. The only downfall Otis had was trading second rounders for nothing. Trading for arenas and Turk was on Dwight. Otis knew his ass was on the line so he tried to appease Dwight to no avail. Up until Dwight started bitching, Otis had a clear plan: have everyone expire the same time Dwight and Chris Paul did, and try to lure Paul to Orlando. That's why we didn't re-sign Turk.

Anyways, worst GM has to be weisbrod. Best is between gabe and Otis, with the nod going to gabe.

Hennigan is our best drafting GM.

Gabriel was our best free agent GM.

(Oops I forgot the Shaq saga)
That's all....

Otis had a top pick turn into Dwight Howard as our perennial DPY, MVP candidate and recruiting tool.

Hennigan has had his top picks turn into Dipo, AG and Mario. These are all fine players with decent chances of emerging but none have taken over the league the way Dwight did. Had lottery luck changed ever so slight and left us with Dipo (that class sucked), KAT and Wiggins we could be singing a very different tune.

The luck of the lottery is a factor. We couldn't strike gold with three straight lotto picks but it's hard to say any of the 3 guys we picked were mistakes given the talent behind them.

If we Elf can emerge this season or we can move Vuc for a PG upgrade, I think we can make a strong rise in the east this year and Henny will be a major reason why.

After learning more about the Shaq fallout, its clear Gabriel fu*ked that whole thing up. He wasn't a bad GM, but man he really screwed that up. Cant low ball a once in a generation player like that

Rob Hennigan as the worst GM in our history? Gabriel and Otis each had number 1 overall picks to work with, both with consensus number one guys, Weisbrod had a generational talent with TMac and managed to squander every year of his career here... But Hennigan is the worst because he's been the GM for 4 years after being forced to blow up the team and start over.

Bulletproof analysis.

It's Weisbrod. He is the worst. Squandered all of TMac's prime, traded basically the championship Detroit Pistons for nothing, swings and misses in the draft, openly said he didn't care about the NBA, I mean--is it even a contest?

EAS Law wrote:Rob Hennigan as the worst GM in our history? Gabriel and Otis each had number 1 overall picks to work with, both with consensus number one guys, Weisbrod had a generational talent with TMac and managed to squander every year of his career here... But Hennigan is the worst because he's been the GM for 4 years after being forced to blow up the team and start over.

Bulletproof analysis.

It's Weisbrod. He is the worst. Squandered all of TMac's prime, traded basically the championship Detroit Pistons for nothing, swings and misses in the draft, openly said he didn't care about the NBA, I mean--is it even a contest?

Very good point!

Pat Williams, GM from 1989/90 to 1994/95 (6 years)
-218-274 (0.443)
-2 coaches (Goukas, Hill)
-2 Playoff appearances
-1 Finals appearance
-1 Atlantic division championship

John Gabriel, GM from 1995/96 to 2003/04 (9 years)
-5 coaches (Hill, Adulate, Daly, Rivers, Davis)
-370-334 (0.526)
-6 Playoff appearances
-1 ECF appearance
-1 Atlantic division championship

John Weisbrod, GM from 2004/05 to 2005/06 season (2 years)
-3 coaches (Davis, Jent, Hill)
-72-92 (0.439)
-0 Playoff appearances

Otis Smith, GM from 2006/07 to 2011/2012 (6 years)
-2 coaches (Hill, Van Gundy)
-299-177 (0.626)
-6 Playoff appearances
-2 ECF appearances
-1 Finals appearance
-3 SE division championships

Rob Hennigan, GM from 2012/13 to PRESENT (4 years)
-4 coaches (Vaughn, Borrego, Skiles, Vogel)
-103-225 (0.314)
-0 Playoffs

Smith is CLEARLY the best. Hennigan is CLEARLY the worst.

Pat Williams had an expansion franchise in a dominant EC and STILL boasts a better win % than Hennigan. For anyone thinking Hennigan > Smith, please notice than Otis' win % is TWICE that of Hennigan.

Keep drinking that Kool-Aid though...

NEM wrote:Pat Williams, GM from 1989/90 to 1994/95 (6 years)
-218-274 (0.443)
-2 coaches (Goukas, Hill)
-2 Playoff appearances
-1 Finals appearance
-1 Atlantic division championship

John Gabriel, GM from 1995/96 to 2003/04 (9 years)
-5 coaches (Hill, Adulate, Daly, Rivers, Davis)
-370-334 (0.526)
-6 Playoff appearances
-1 ECF appearance
-1 Atlantic division championship

John Weisbrod, GM from 2004/05 to 2005/06 season (2 years)
-3 coaches (Davis, Jent, Hill)
-72-92 (0.439)
-0 Playoff appearances

Otis Smith, GM from 2006/07 to 2011/2012 (6 years)
-2 coaches (Hill, Van Gundy)
-299-177 (0.626)
-6 Playoff appearances
-2 ECF appearances
-1 Finals appearance
-3 SE division championships

Rob Hennigan, GM from 2012/13 to PRESENT (4 years)
-4 coaches (Vaughn, Borrego, Skiles, Vogel)
-103-225 (0.314)
-0 Playoffs

Smith is CLEARLY the best. Hennigan is CLEARLY the worst.

Pat Williams had an expansion franchise in a dominant EC and STILL boasts a better win % than Hennigan. For anyone thinking Hennigan > Smith, please notice than Otis' win % is TWICE that of Hennigan.

Keep drinking that Kool-Aid though...

I actually don't think one person has said Otis is the worst GM we've had.

EAS Law wrote:

NEM wrote:Pat Williams, GM from 1989/90 to 1994/95 (6 years)
-218-274 (0.443)
-2 coaches (Goukas, Hill)
-2 Playoff appearances
-1 Finals appearance
-1 Atlantic division championship

John Gabriel, GM from 1995/96 to 2003/04 (9 years)
-5 coaches (Hill, Adulate, Daly, Rivers, Davis)
-370-334 (0.526)
-6 Playoff appearances
-1 ECF appearance
-1 Atlantic division championship

John Weisbrod, GM from 2004/05 to 2005/06 season (2 years)
-3 coaches (Davis, Jent, Hill)
-72-92 (0.439)
-0 Playoff appearances

Otis Smith, GM from 2006/07 to 2011/2012 (6 years)
-2 coaches (Hill, Van Gundy)
-299-177 (0.626)
-6 Playoff appearances
-2 ECF appearances
-1 Finals appearance
-3 SE division championships

Rob Hennigan, GM from 2012/13 to PRESENT (4 years)
-4 coaches (Vaughn, Borrego, Skiles, Vogel)
-103-225 (0.314)
-0 Playoffs

Smith is CLEARLY the best. Hennigan is CLEARLY the worst.

Pat Williams had an expansion franchise in a dominant EC and STILL boasts a better win % than Hennigan. For anyone thinking Hennigan > Smith, please notice than Otis' win % is TWICE that of Hennigan.

Keep drinking that Kool-Aid though...

I actually don't think one person has said Otis is the worst GM we've had.

OP did..


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NEM wrote:Pat Williams, GM from 1989/90 to 1994/95 (6 years)
-218-274 (0.443)
-2 coaches (Goukas, Hill)
-2 Playoff appearances
-1 Finals appearance
-1 Atlantic division championship

John Gabriel, GM from 1995/96 to 2003/04 (9 years)
-5 coaches (Hill, Adulate, Daly, Rivers, Davis)
-370-334 (0.526)
-6 Playoff appearances
-1 ECF appearance
-1 Atlantic division championship

John Weisbrod, GM from 2004/05 to 2005/06 season (2 years)
-3 coaches (Davis, Jent, Hill)
-72-92 (0.439)
-0 Playoff appearances

Otis Smith, GM from 2006/07 to 2011/2012 (6 years)
-2 coaches (Hill, Van Gundy)
-299-177 (0.626)
-6 Playoff appearances
-2 ECF appearances
-1 Finals appearance
-3 SE division championships

Rob Hennigan, GM from 2012/13 to PRESENT (4 years)
-4 coaches (Vaughn, Borrego, Skiles, Vogel)
-103-225 (0.314)
-0 Playoffs

Smith is CLEARLY the best. Hennigan is CLEARLY the worst.

Pat Williams had an expansion franchise in a dominant EC and STILL boasts a better win % than Hennigan. For anyone thinking Hennigan > Smith, please notice than Otis' win % is TWICE that of Hennigan.

Keep drinking that Kool-Aid though...

Pat Williams drafted the single most dominate player of the past 25 years. It was the most no brainer pick in history too. Then won a 2nd #1 pick the next year. Pat was really, really lucky. Rob has not been lucky. That's sports. It sucks.