Official Speculation Thread 2016 Volume VIII - Defense Wins Championships

BadMofoPimp · Post #1 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:36 pm

Near bottom in the league in Hustling! Magic need to start Hustlin!

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OrlandoDream · Post #2 » by **OrlandoDream** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:04 pm

#PureMagoc. #Embracethetank

PennytoShaq · Post #3 » by **PennytoShaq** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:37 pm

Respect, you kept my title from the last thread.

I was fully expecting a tank theme

BadMofoPimp · Post #4 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 1:45 am

PennytoShaq wrote:Respect, you kept my title from the last thread.

I was fully expecting a tank theme

Even if the team doesn't win many more games, they still need to learn how to play some damn Defense!

NEM · Post #5 » by **NEM** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 1:45 am

PennytoShaq wrote:Respect, you kept my title from the last thread.

I was fully expecting a tank theme

We'll win one eventually... I reckon by 2030 we'll have one :lol:

Blue_and_Whte · Post #6 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:09 am

I just want to say that I hope we lose to Toronto tomorrow.

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Sensor · Post #7 » by **Sensor** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:41 am

In term of the tank race, this week couldn't have gone much better for us. Went from 12th to now tied with Mia for 5th.

MagicStarwipe · Post #8 » by **MagicStarwipe** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:42 am

LMFAO at Cohen asking Vogel how much he leans on veterans in times like this. Our veterans have been the most pathetic players on our team. They don't give a **** at all. We are so **** clueless.

MagicStarwipe · Post #9 » by **MagicStarwipe** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:46 am

Apparently Evan helps us in "so many ways" is a "terrific player" which is why we extended him to a long contract and a "focal point of our team". Just shoot me now.

Magic_Johnny12 · Post #10 » by **Magic_Johnny12** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:57 am

For some odd reason I really don't want to trade Vucevic. He's been here from the beginning has improved every year and the one with the biggest heart. It might look extremely bad, but I will trade Biyombo before Vucci Mane UNLESS we are selling extremely high on him and is a clear overpay.

rcklsscognition · Post #11 » by **rcklsscognition** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:02 am

(In Toronto) they allowed me to be myself, they allowed me to do what I do and they allowed me to lead them. That’s why we were successful,’’ Biyombo said. ``Here (with the Magic) we’re all still trying to figure it out and make a push. But it is frustrating because you go home and you can’t get to sleep because of certain situations that you see of how we’ve been playing.

Jameerthefear · Post #12 » by **Jameerthefear** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:22 am

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:For some odd reason I really don't want to trade Vucevic. He's been here from the beginning has improved every year and the one with the biggest heart. It might look extremely bad, but I will trade Biyombo before Vucci Mane UNLESS we are selling extremely high on him and is a clear overpay.

The one thing about Vucevic is that he loves Orlando and the fans here. I'm not a huge fan of his but that's a lot more than what you can say about some others on this team.

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OrlandO · Post #13 » by **OrlandO** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:42 am

rcklsscognition wrote:(In Toronto) they allowed me to be myself, they allowed me to do what I do and they allowed me to lead them. That’s why we were successful,’’ Biyombo said. ``Here (with the Magic) we’re all still trying to figure it out and make a push. But it is frustrating because you go home and you can’t get to sleep because of certain situations that you see of how we’ve been playing.

Shot at teammates or vogel?

Post #14 » by **ChosenSavior** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:22 am

OrlandO wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:(In Toronto) they allowed me to be myself, they allowed me to do what I do and they allowed me to lead them. That’s why we were successful,’’ Biyombo said. ``Here (with the Magic) we’re all still trying to figure it out and make a push. But it is frustrating because you go home and you can’t get to sleep because of certain situations that you see of how we’ve been playing.

Shot at teammates or vogel?

Both I presume? Should've just kept Dedmon IMO.

Post #15 » by **ChosenSavior** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:24 am

The trading deadline has me extremely nervous. Really worried we are gonna blow our wad to obtain a marginal wing scorer.

The Real Dalic · Post #16 » by **The Real Dalic** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:39 am

Every rumor I've seen has us trading Vuc to the Celtics for Amir Johnson, scrubs, and maybe their pick. If that's true then we're probably gonna be going all in on the tank.

Gonna be sad to see Vuc go if he gets traded, he's been the longest tenured Magic player during this rebuild and he truly loves it here. We'll see what happens and we better not just give him and Ibaka away for absolutely nothing.

pepe1991 · Post #17 » by **pepe1991** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:45 am

The Real Dalic wrote:Every rumor I've seen has us trading Vuc to the Celtics for Amir Johnson, scrubs, and maybe their pick. If that's true then we're probably gonna be going all in on the tank.

Gonna be sad to see Vuc go if he gets traded, he's been the longest tenured Magic player during this rebuild and he truly loves it here. We'll see what happens and we better not just give him and Ibaka away for absolutely nothing.

Celtics won't give up Nets pick, but rights on Žižić , Amir Johnson and James Young/Rozier would do it for me. Vučević is turning 27 this year, new rookie will be what? 19 years old? Team is rebuilding, holding Vučević is pointless.

The Real Dalic · Post #18 » by **The Real Dalic** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:49 am

pepe1991 wrote:
The Real Dalic wrote:Every rumor I've seen has us trading Vuc to the Celtics for Amir Johnson, scrubs, and maybe their pick. If that's true then we're probably gonna be going all in on the tank.

Gonna be sad to see Vuc go if he gets traded, he's been the longest tenured Magic player during this rebuild and he truly loves it here. We'll see what happens and we better not just give him and Ibaka away for absolutely nothing.

Celtics won't give up Nets pick, but rights on Žižić , Amir Johnson and James Young/Rozier would do it for me. Vučević is turning 27 this year, new rookie will be what? 19 years old? Team is rebuilding, holding Vučević is pointless.

Not the Nets pick, their own pick.

MoMM · Post #19 » by **MoMM** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:19 pm

Ante Žižić is averaging 20/9 in the Adriatic league, that's really good.

As for trading Vuc, I wouldn't trade him as well, I prefer to trade Ibaka or BB instead.

BTW, does anyone have an idea on what kind of return we can get for BB?

Magic_Johnny12 · Post #20 » by **Magic_Johnny12** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 1:03 pm

MoMM wrote:Ante Žižić is averaging 20/9 in the Adriatic league, that's really good.

As for trading Vuc, I wouldn't trade him as well, I prefer to trade Ibaka or BB instead.

BTW, does anyone have an idea on what kind of return we can get for BB?

I still imagine he still has positive value around the league even with his contract and current stats.

I don't know where I read it, but I remember seeing that he had "multiple" max offers and was convinced to sign with us for 17m. If that statement is accurate I definitely think it still holds value in itself. Could see a good handful of teams being interested in him if he was made available for a starting position or a bench role.

Something like expirings and a 1st or/and a player with some potential on a rookie scale contract if we took back some long term salary. I genuinely think he would thrive in a system like Stotts.