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Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 2:23 pm
by Uncommon
So the top 10 players in the draft are generally agreed upon. In some order, most basketball minds think that Fultz, Ball, Jackson, Tatum, Fox, Smith Jr, Isaac, Monk, Markkanen, Ntilikina are going in the top 10 in the draft. I guess what I'm asking is what do you think each team can reasonably expect when drafting each player? I get it's a crapshoot, but general skills in mind -- excluding floor or ceiling -- who do you think is the MOST accurate comparison for each of the top 10? Who immediately comes to mind when you imagine each player 5 years down the line? I'm interested in the opinions of the board because I'm not sure if mine are plausible. My comparisons would be:

1. Fultz- Tyreke Evans
2. Ball- Jason Kidd
3. Jackson- Andre Iguodala
4. Tatum- Carmelo Anthony
5. Fox- Kemba Walker
6. Smith, Jr- Jrue Holiday
7. Isaac- Lamar Odom
8. Monk- Ben Gordon/OJ Mayo
9. Markkanen- Danilo Gaillinari
10. Ntilikina- Brandon Knight

What do you guys think? What are your comparisons?

Re: Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 2:58 pm
by Nemesis21
1) Fultz - Penny Hardaway
2) Ball - Jason Kidd
3) Jackson - Jimmy Butler/Andre Iguodala
4) Tatum - Paul Pierce/Allan Houston
5) Fox - John Wall
6) DSJ - Steve Francis
7) Isaac - Rashard Lewis/Brandon Ingram
8) Monk - Jamal Crawford/Ben Gordon
9) Markkanen - Nikola Mirotic
10) Ntilikina - Dennis Schroeder

Re: Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 3:19 pm
by VFX
Uncommon wrote:So the top 10 players in the draft are generally agreed upon. In some order, most basketball minds think that Fultz, Ball, Jackson, Tatum, Fox, Smith Jr, Isaac, Monk, Markkanen, Ntilikina are going in the top 10 in the draft. I guess what I'm asking is what do you think each team can reasonably expect when drafting each player? I get it's a crapshoot, but general skills in mind -- excluding floor or ceiling -- who do you think is the MOST accurate comparison for each of the top 10? Who immediately comes to mind when you imagine each player 5 years down the line? I'm interested in the opinions of the board because I'm not sure if mine are plausible. My comparisons would be:

1. Fultz- Tyreke Evans
2. Ball- Jason Kidd
3. Jackson- Andre Iguodala
4. Tatum- Carmelo Anthony
5. Fox- Kemba Walker
6. Smith, Jr- Jrue Holiday
7. Isaac- Lamar Odom
8. Monk- Ben Gordon/OJ Mayo
9. Markkanen- Danilo Gaillinari
10. Ntilikina- Brandon Knight

What do you guys think? What are your comparisons?


Fultz- Russell / Harden
Ball- Rubio / Livingston
Jackson- MKG
Tatum- Danny Granger / Pierce
Fox- Bledsoe
Smith Jr- Baron Davis
Isaac- Marvin Williams
Monk- Louis Williams /Eric Gordon
Markkanen- Channing Frye
Ntilikina - Michael Carter Williams

Re: Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 3:23 pm
by pepe1991
Uncommon wrote:So the top 10 players in the draft are generally agreed upon. In some order, most basketball minds think that Fultz, Ball, Jackson, Tatum, Fox, Smith Jr, Isaac, Monk, Markkanen, Ntilikina are going in the top 10 in the draft. I guess what I'm asking is what do you think each team can reasonably expect when drafting each player? I get it's a crapshoot, but general skills in mind -- excluding floor or ceiling -- who do you think is the MOST accurate comparison for each of the top 10? Who immediately comes to mind when you imagine each player 5 years down the line? I'm interested in the opinions of the board because I'm not sure if mine are plausible. My comparisons would be:

1. Fultz- Tyreke Evans
2. Ball- Jason Kidd
3. Jackson- Andre Iguodala
4. Tatum- Carmelo Anthony
5. Fox- Kemba Walker
6. Smith, Jr- Jrue Holiday
7. Isaac- Lamar Odom
8. Monk- Ben Gordon/OJ Mayo
9. Markkanen- Danilo Gaillinari
10. Ntilikina- Brandon Knight

What do you guys think? What are your comparisons?


Fultz- Tyreke Evans? Why ? Evans was 27% 3 point shooter at college on 17 ppg, Fultz is 23 ppg, 41% for 3 player at college. He is far supeior prospect than Evans ever was.

Lauri is nowhere near as versitale as Gallinari is.

Re: Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 3:23 pm
by Cammo101
1. Fultz- D'Angelo Russell
2. Ball- Jason Kidd
3. Jackson- Kawhi Leonard
4. Tatum- Harrison Barnes
5. Fox- Dennis Schroder
6. Smith Jr- Steve Francis
7. Isaac- Jonathan Bender
8. Monk- JJ Redick
9. Markkanen- Ryan Anderson
10. Ntilikina- Dante Exum

Re: Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 3:38 pm
by Def Swami
1. Fultz - James Harden
2. Ball - Jason Kidd with a jumpshot, Penny Hardaway
3. Jackson -Jimmy Butler, Andrew Wiggins
4. Tatum - Paul Pierce, Danny Granger
5. Fox - Dennis Schroeder, Elfrid Payton
6. Monk - CJ McCollum, Zach Lavine
7. Smith - Steve Francis, Baron Davis
8. Isaac - Rashard Lewis, Harrison Barnes, Marvin Williams
9. Markkanen - Ryan Anderson, Channing Frye
10. Ntilikina - :dontknow:

Re: Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 3:48 pm
by pepe1991
1. Fultz- best case Wall mixed with Irving , worst case Russell, realistic- ?! Conley? Hard to tell.
2. Ball- best case Kidd, worst case Kendall Marshall, MCW. Realistic- Rondo.
3. Jackson- best case Butler, worst case Stanley Johnson? Realistic - Andre Igoudala
4. Tatum- best case Melo/Rudy Gay, worst case Derrick Williams . Realistic- Harrison Barnes
5. Fox- best case Walker, worst case Rondo with less passing, realistic -better version of Reggie Jackson
6. Smith, Jr- best case Eric Bledsoe with less defensive potential, worst case post injuries Rose. Realistic- Marbury
7. Isaac- best case Paul Geore, worst case Justin Harper, realistic : Odom with less passing
8. Monk- best case Beal, worst case Stauskas, realistic : Lou Williams
9. Markkanen- best case Dirk-ish type, worst case : Motiejunas, Singler, realistic: 2016 version of Dirk
10. Ntilikina- hard to judge yet.

Re: Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 3:57 pm
by KillMonger
1.Fultz- James Harden
2.Ball- Jason Kidd
3.Jackson- K. Leonard
4. Tatum- Paul Pierce
5. Fox- John Wall
6. Monk- Monta Ellis (more athletic)
7. Smith- Steve Francis or a Kemba walker/Westbrook hybrid
8. Issac- Rashard Lewis(better handles and defense)
9.Markkanen-Kevin love(without rebounding prowess)
10.Ntilikina- Penny Hardaway(less passing ability)

Re: Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 5:36 pm
by VFX
pepe1991 wrote:4. Tatum- worst case Derrick Williams .


Wat.

Re: Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 5:45 pm
by MagicFan101
Def Swami wrote:1. Fultz - James Harden
2. Ball - Jason Kidd with a jumpshot, Penny Hardaway
3. Jackson -Jimmy Butler, Andrew Wiggins
4. Tatum - Paul Pierce, Danny Granger
5. Fox - Dennis Schroeder, Elfrid Payton
6. Monk - CJ McCollum, Zach Lavine
7. Smith - Steve Francis, Baron Davis
8. Isaac - Rashard Lewis, Harrison Barnes, Marvin Williams
9. Markkanen - Ryan Anderson, Channing Frye
10. Ntilikina - :dontknow:


This is probably the best list I see on here so far.

Re: Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 6:14 pm
by pepe1991
MagicMatic wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:4. Tatum- worst case Derrick Williams .


Wat.


Worst case. At college SF-PF, used missmatches to look better than he was. Versitale offensive player, fluid athlete. Ended up being nothing of that at NBA. Williams was actually more athletic than Tatum. I mean ,that's worst case for any combo farward - fear that he can't play any of that on higher level.

Re: Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 6:42 pm
by PennytoShaq
pepe1991 wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:4. Tatum- worst case Derrick Williams .


Wat.


Worst case. At college SF-PF, used missmatches to look better than he was. Versitale offensive player, fluid athlete. Ended up being nothing of that at NBA. Williams was actually more athletic than Tatum. I mean ,that's worst case for any combo farward - fear that he can't play any of that on higher level.


So you are saying that Tatum can not play SF in the NBA? I'm not so sure that is the case, but if it is,he will fall in this draft.

Re: Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 6:51 pm
by p0peye
1. Fultz - Manu Ginobili
2. Ball - Jason Kidd lite (not so good on D)
3. Jackson -Jimmy Butler
4. Tatum - Tobias Harris
5. Fox - Rajon Rondo
6. Monk - Kevin Martin
7. Smith - Gilbert Arenas
8. Isaac - Harrison Barnes
9. Markkanen - Ryan Anderson
10. Ntilikina - Marko Jaric

Re: Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 7:05 pm
by Dgbarnes
If these comparisons are right, we should acquire another top 10 pick. Most everyones player comparisons are claiming 6-7 all-stars in this crop.

Re: Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 7:12 pm
by Melvinlocker
Uncommon wrote:So the top 10 players in the draft are generally agreed upon. In some order, most basketball minds think that Fultz, Ball, Jackson, Tatum, Fox, Smith Jr, Isaac, Monk, Markkanen, Ntilikina are going in the top 10 in the draft. I guess what I'm asking is what do you think each team can reasonably expect when drafting each player? I get it's a crapshoot, but general skills in mind -- excluding floor or ceiling -- who do you think is the MOST accurate comparison for each of the top 10? Who immediately comes to mind when you imagine each player 5 years down the line? I'm interested in the opinions of the board because I'm not sure if mine are plausible. My comparisons would be:

1. Fultz- Tyreke Evans
2. Ball- Jason Kidd
3. Jackson- Andre Iguodala
4. Tatum- Carmelo Anthony
5. Fox- Kemba Walker
6. Smith, Jr- Jrue Holiday
7. Isaac- Lamar Odom
8. Monk- Ben Gordon/OJ Mayo
9. Markkanen- Danilo Gaillinari
10. Ntilikina- Brandon Knight

What do you guys think? What are your comparisons?


1. Fultz- Chauncey Billups
2. Ball- Marko Jaric
3. Jackson- Will Barton
4. Tatum- T.J. Warren
5. Fox- Dennis Schroeder
6. Smith, Jr- Steve Francis
7. Isaac- Robert Covington
8. Monk- Jodie Meeks
9. Markkanen- Meyers Leonard
10. Ntilikina- George De Paula

Re: Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 9:24 pm
by pepe1991
PennytoShaq wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
Wat.


Worst case. At college SF-PF, used missmatches to look better than he was. Versitale offensive player, fluid athlete. Ended up being nothing of that at NBA. Williams was actually more athletic than Tatum. I mean ,that's worst case for any combo farward - fear that he can't play any of that on higher level.


So you are saying that Tatum can not play SF in the NBA? I'm not so sure that is the case, but if it is,he will fall in this draft.


I said it's worst case scenario.

Re: Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 9:29 pm
by PennytoShaq
pepe1991 wrote:
PennytoShaq wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Worst case. At college SF-PF, used missmatches to look better than he was. Versitale offensive player, fluid athlete. Ended up being nothing of that at NBA. Williams was actually more athletic than Tatum. I mean ,that's worst case for any combo farward - fear that he can't play any of that on higher level.


So you are saying that Tatum can not play SF in the NBA? I'm not so sure that is the case, but if it is,he will fall in this draft.


I said it's worst case scenario.


That's a change from your prior hard stance where you insisted that Tatum was a PF in the NBA.

Re: Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 11:19 pm
by DontPushMe
1. Fultz- harden
2. Ball- Jason Kidd
3. Jackson- wiggins
4. Tatum- Rudy gay
5. Fox- deron williams
6. Smith Jr- lillard
7. Isaac- Harrison barnes
8. Monk- Jamal crawford
9. Markkanen- Michael Jordan
10. Ntilikina- Dante Exum

Re: Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 12:30 am
by pepe1991
PennytoShaq wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
PennytoShaq wrote:
So you are saying that Tatum can not play SF in the NBA? I'm not so sure that is the case, but if it is,he will fall in this draft.


I said it's worst case scenario.


That's a change from your prior hard stance where you insisted that Tatum was a PF in the NBA.


I said he played PF at college and benefited from it so i questioned his ability to play SF in nba. I still do. But since he won't be drafted by Magic i really don't care any more about him.

Re: Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 12:39 am
by Nemesis21
DontPushMe wrote:1. Fultz- harden
2. Ball- Jason Kidd
3. Jackson- wiggins
4. Tatum- Rudy gay
5. Fox- deron williams
6. Smith Jr- lillard
7. Isaac- Harrison barnes
8. Monk- Jamal crawford
9. Markkanen- Michael Jordan
10. Ntilikina- Dante Exum



I see what you did there. :eek1: :lol: