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Welcome Wesley Iwundu

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:10 am
by Nyce_1
HEIGHT: 6'7" (201 cm)
WEIGHT: 205 lbs (93 kg)
AGE: 22.5
POSITION: SG


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Re: Welcome Wesley Iwundu

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:54 am
by SOUL
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Re: Welcome Wesley Iwundu

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:04 am
by bwgood77
I drafted this stud in my mock offseason draft...I liked everything I read and watched and thought I had to draft this guy. Don't know much about him outside of what I read, but everything I read and watched impressed me over others in that range.

Re: Welcome Wesley Iwundu

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:39 am
by shadrock
Very impressive get for the early second round. A legit three and D guy with size and length is very valuable.

Re: Welcome Wesley Iwundu

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:53 am
by KillMonger
Is guy a 1 or 2? Combo? 6"7 193? He's a little light in the you know what.... Let's see what he's got..... Hope he's not another marble

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Re: Welcome Wesley Iwundu

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:03 am
by JF5
Yeah, I just looked him up... He's an all-around player with a lot of quickness... Reminds me a lot of Oladipo...

Hammond has a pretty good track record of drafting well in the second round... Hopefully this is a hit...

Re: Welcome Wesley Iwundu

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:47 am
by KillMonger
People are telling me he's a Jimmy butler type

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Re: Welcome Wesley Iwundu

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:04 am
by Blue_and_Whte
I already like him


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Re: Welcome Wesley Iwundu

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:36 am
by fendilim
Tony snell

Re: Welcome Wesley Iwundu

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:38 am
by Anti Chalmers
fendilim wrote:Tony snell

Which is a steal for a 2nd rounder

Re: Welcome Wesley Iwundu

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:40 am
by pepe1991
Reality: most people googled him and had no clue where he played,how old he is and how he looks.

But hey " great player".

Re: RE: Re: Welcome Wesley Iwundu

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:34 am
by Nyce_1
fendilim wrote:Tony snell

Better ball handler than Snell. This guy can play 2/3 with potential spot minutes at the 1.

Re: Welcome Wesley Iwundu

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:13 pm
by tiderulz
JF5 wrote:Yeah, I just looked him up... He's an all-around player with a lot of quickness... Reminds me a lot of Oladipo...

Hammond has a pretty good track record of drafting well in the second round... Hopefully this is a hit...


Damien Inglis, Johnny OBryant, Lamar PAtterson, Ricky Ledo, Doron Lamb, etc.

I'll give him Brogdon. I wont give him Norman Powell as he was drafted and traded immediately to Toronto.

so not sure where this idea that he finds gems in the 2nd round comes from. really only seems to have found 1.

I'll definitely hope for the best with Iwundu

Re: Welcome Wesley Iwundu

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:48 pm
by magicman112
Really like his game his passing surprised me, if he can do some of this against NBA competition might have a steal on our hands.

Re: Welcome Wesley Iwundu

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:11 pm
by pepe1991
What pisses me off on this forum is how hostile it gets to a people who don't agree with "common sense". Example, if you go back and read Jeff Green- to Magic thread, Blue Balls and Xatticus were pretty much only people who hated it. Naturally, lot of people who feel a need to defend player just because he plays for Magic jumped of them. One moderator whose name I will not mention (starts on S, 4 letters) said that Jeff Green and Harris are "copy past same players".

And ofc our expert for positions PennyToShaq also said "Some of you guys think so black and white. Saying Green should "play the 4" or we already have Vuc so Ibaka won't play 5 is just not even close to being in line with what the Magic are doing. And the funny thing is Rob explains what we are doing and people still don't get it."

Segway to this topic- literally nobody, me included even knew who this guy is until Magic drafted him 8 hours ago, now people already saying how he is great player and can play few positions in nba. Guy is 22, soon to be 23 years old rookie who needed 4 years to become contributor at college level. Just because Magic drafted him it doesn't make him good. It makes him prospect with low floor and low ceiling.

Re: Welcome Wesley Iwundu

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:34 pm
by orlandomike
6'7" with a wingspan of 7' 1" ? He's more like a 6' 10" player in some respects.

Re: Welcome Wesley Iwundu

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:03 pm
by Melvinlocker
I had Iwundu ranked higher than most on my draft board. He isn't a future superstar, but it is very easy to see him having a defined role coming into the league. If his jumper checks out, he could see 15-20 minutes a game off the bench. The fact that he can play both guard positions is an added bonus.

Re: Welcome Wesley Iwundu

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:26 pm
by Darth Magic
Solid Snake wrote:Is guy a 1 or 2? Combo? 6"7 193? He's a little light in the you know what.... Let's see what he's got..... Hope he's not another marble

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He definitely strikes me as a 3 and D point guard.

Re: Welcome Wesley Iwundu

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:30 pm
by Knightro
Let's dive into the numbers.

Iwundu was remarkably consistent on the defensive end of the floor in college. Never had a DBPM below 3.4 in four years. To compare to other guard/wing prospects drafted in the same range...

DBPM
Josh Hart (30th): 4.0
Wesley Iwundu (33rd): 3.4
Davon Reed (32nd): 3.3
Derrick White (29th): 3.2
Frank Mason (34th): 1.5
Jawun Evans (39th): 1.4
Frank Jackson (31st): 0.2
Semi Ojeleye (37th): 0.2

Iwundu graded out pretty favorably on the defensive end of the floor with the other guys selected in his range. He's quick, he moves his feet well and he's remarkably long. 7'1" wingspan and 8'9 ½" standing reach for a guy that's a shade under 6'7" is excellent. It's kind of cliche to say that Weltman/Hammond have a type already, but two draft picks into the regime and they went with two of the longest players in the draft at their positions.

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Draft Express had him mocked at 57 on June 18th, then jumped him all the way to 39th on June 19th before eventually settling him into the 36th spot in their final mock. Sounds like Iwundu did extremely well on the draft workout scene and really boosted his stock.

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This guy knew. Good reporting from the K-State beat writer to nail this one hours before the pick.

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The game O'Connor is referring to, is this one: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=400946444 where Iwundu had 24 points on 9 shots, 6 rebounds and 7 assists leading his team to a victory over a Wake Forest.

Let's talk about the passing skills.

Iwundu, despite playing SG/SF at K-State, led the Wildcats in assists as a junior and was second on the team as a senior. 24.6 and 22.9 AST% his last two years as a wing is excellent. Let's compare.

AST%
Jawun Evans (39th): 43.6
Derrick White (29th): 28.6
Frank Mason (34th): 26.1
Wesley Iwundu (33rd): 24.6
Josh Hart (30th): 18.8
Davon Reed (32nd): 14.4
Frank Jackson (31st): 12.6
Semi Ojeleye (37th): 9.3

The three guys ahead of Iwundu on the list were all point guards for their college teams, so the fact Iwundu is even close to White/Mason (who each had USG% 25.6 compared to Iwundu's 22.3) is impressive.

The other thing Iwundu did really well at K-State was rebound the basketball. 12.3% is tremendous for a wing and you'll see that he outpaced everyone selected in his range. Admittedly, several of these players played PG, so the opportunities wouldn't be there as much, but I think it's worth noting that Iwundu held his own/excelled as a passer combined to the rest of the group, while being the best rebounder.

REB%
Wesley Iwundu (33rd): 12.3
Josh Hart (30th): 12.2
Semi Ojeleye (37th): 11.8
Davon Reed (32nd): 8.1
Derrick White (29th): 7.0
Jawun Evans (39th): 6.8
Frank Mason (34th): 6.4
Frank Jackson (31st): 5.8

The biggest question for Iwundu is simple. Are his improvements shooting real or just sample size noise? His 3PT% and FT% both saw pretty dramatic increases as a senior. Is that the real Iwundu and his shooting developing, or are we looking at a guy who won't be able to get on the floor on the wing because he can't space?

Statistically, it looks very promising for Iwundu as a defender, passer and rebounder. His long-term prospects all boil down to how well he can shoot the ball in the NBA.

Re: Welcome Wesley Iwundu

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:40 pm
by Nyce_1
Iwundu is a better/bigger Marble; and like Marble, he'll have to prove he can shoot it. Devyn couldn't and is now overseas.