Official Speculation Thread 2017 Volume XI - Roster set. Trades next?

Post #1 » by **Knightro** » Sun Jul 9, 2017 7:57 pm

Orlando Magic Roster to End the 2016-2017 Season
Elfrid Payton - 2412 MP
Aaron Gordon - 2298 MP
Evan Fournier - 2234 MP
Nikola Vucevic - 2163 MP
Bismack Biyombo - 1793 MP
D.J. Augustin - 1538 MP
Jeff Green - 1534 MP
C.J. Watson - 1012 MP
Mario Hezonja - 960 MP
Terrence Ross - 748 MP
Jodie Meeks - 738 MP
Damjan Rudez - 314 MP
Stephen Zimmerman - 108 MP
Marcus Georges-Hunt - 48 MP
Patricio Garino - 43 MP

Departures
Damjan Rudez: Did not extend qualifying offer
Jodie Meeks: Signed 2 years, 7M with Washington on July 2
Stephen Zimmerman: Waived on July 4
Jeff Green: Signed 1 year, 2.3M with Cleveland on July 8
C.J. Watson: Waived on July 10
Marcus Georges-Hunt: Waived on July 31
Patricio Garino: Waived on August 1

Additions
Jonathan Isaac: Drafted 1st round, No. 6 overall - signed 4 years, 22.3M (team options Years 3 and 4) on July 1
Shelvin Mack: Signed 2 years, 12M (1M guaranteed in Year 2) on July 9
Jonathon Simmons: Signed 3 years, 18M (1M guaranteed in Year 3) on July 14
Wesley Iwundu: Drafted 2nd round, No. 33 overall - signed 3 years, 4.1M (team option Year 3) on July 24
Arron Afflalo: Signed 1 year, 2.3M on July 27
Khem Birch: Signed 2 years, 2.19M on July 27
Marreese Speights: 1 year, 2.3M on July 27

The Magic have 15 players under contract with two open two-way G-League spots.

rcklsscognition · Post #2 » by **rcklsscognition** » Sun Jul 9, 2017 8:04 pm

In before CJ is waived.

Darth Magic · Post #3 » by **Darth Magic** » Sun Jul 9, 2017 8:13 pm

In before we lose 50+ Games next year

Blue_and_Whte · Post #4 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Sun Jul 9, 2017 8:21 pm

I'm keeping my expectations low in terms of win total because the last two seasons had some lofty expectations. Fool me twice, shame on me.

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j-ragg · Post #5 » by **j-ragg** » Sun Jul 9, 2017 8:33 pm

Hoping for DJ trade. Will end up settling for a CJ waive.

Gomagic44 · Post #6 » by **Gomagic44** » Sun Jul 9, 2017 9:14 pm

Hoping we trade Vuc, since it appears we are stuck with elf for another season at least. Lesigh.

If Mario doesn't improve I'm gonna be so mad.

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rcklsscognition · Post #7 » by **rcklsscognition** » Sun Jul 9, 2017 9:17 pm

Really taking CJ to the wire here. Just in case he is part of a trade?

axl_c_cool · Post #8 » by **axl_c_cool** » Sun Jul 9, 2017 9:31 pm

Lets take Watson, Vucevic, and Augustine and see what we can get!

rcklsscognition · Post #9 » by **rcklsscognition** » Sun Jul 9, 2017 9:48 pm

Looks like there could be 10 solid pros in this draft.

King Close · Post #10 » by **King Close** » Sun Jul 9, 2017 10:15 pm

axl_c_cool wrote:Lets take Watson, Vucevic, and Augustine and see what we can get!

How about everyone but Isaac, Mario, Aaron, and Elf?

axl_c_cool · Post #11 » by **axl_c_cool** » Sun Jul 9, 2017 10:17 pm

Imafoo1 wrote:
axl_c_cool wrote:Lets take Watson, Vucevic, and Augustine and see what we can get!

How about everyone but Isaac, Mario, Aaron, and Elf?

I'd trade it all for picks and young talent (Exum, S.Johnson, WCS, etc) although I'd like to keep Fournier, he's still young

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melasdas · Post #12 » by **melasdas** » Sun Jul 9, 2017 10:24 pm

In less than two months after the season starts, most of this board will be crying because we have picked Isaac over Smith.

Nyce_1 · Post #13 » by **Nyce_1** » Sun Jul 9, 2017 10:26 pm

Smith Jr. looks really good. Poised, quick, smart decisions....he's going to be a good one.

AddiFB · Post #14 » by **AddiFB** » Sun Jul 9, 2017 10:32 pm

melasdas wrote:In less than two months after the season starts, most of this board will be crying because we have picked Isaac over Smith.

And what if, in 3 years, everyone will be glad we picked Isaac, instead of Smith?

melasdas · Post #15 » by **melasdas** » Sun Jul 9, 2017 10:35 pm

AddiFB wrote:
melasdas wrote:In less than two months after the season starts, most of this board will be crying because we have picked Isaac over Smith.

And what if, in 3 years, everyone will be glad we picked Isaac, instead of Smith?

Isacc wil not be ever better than Smith. You can book these words if you want. I hope to be wrong though.

chosen12141 · Post #16 » by **chosen12141** » Sun Jul 9, 2017 10:36 pm

AddiFB wrote:
melasdas wrote:In less than two months after the season starts, most of this board will be crying because we have picked Isaac over Smith.

And what if, in 3 years, everyone will be glad we picked Isaac, instead of Smith?

Well said! Let me also add a +1

8-)

Post #17 » by **Knightro** » Sun Jul 9, 2017 10:48 pm

Dennis Smith Jr. has a chance to be a fine NBA player. I hope he does as well as he can do.

I also happen to think Isaac has a much better chance at being a true NBA unicorn.

There are plenty of lead guards in the NBA that can really score. There's a lot of value in that skill set, especially if you get a really good one (Westbrook and Rose have won MVPs for goodness sake), but it's not anything we don't see on a nightly basis from 10-15 other guys in the league.

You know what there aren't many of? Bigs that switch every pick and roll, crash the glass, protect the rim AND also hit threes.

Nyce_1 · Post #18 » by **Nyce_1** » Sun Jul 9, 2017 10:49 pm

What's the feeling on making a play for Joffrey Lauvergne? 6'11 PF/C who can stretch it, high IQ, and unrestricted.

PennytoShaq · Post #19 » by **PennytoShaq** » Sun Jul 9, 2017 10:51 pm

melasdas wrote:In less than two months after the season starts, most of this board will be crying because we have picked Isaac over Smith.

Speak for yourself. Especially the crying part.

PennytoShaq · Post #20 » by **PennytoShaq** » Sun Jul 9, 2017 10:52 pm

melasdas wrote:
AddiFB wrote:
melasdas wrote:In less than two months after the season starts, most of this board will be crying because we have picked Isaac over Smith.

And what if, in 3 years, everyone will be glad we picked Isaac, instead of Smith?

Isacc wil not be ever better than Smith. You can book these words if you want. I hope to be wrong though.

This is a guy who didn't even watch college hoops making absolute statements about college prospects. Incredible.