The Real Dalic wrote:Blue_and_Whte wrote:The Real Dalic wrote:I wanna see a Payton led team from the get go, ride or die with Payton. I know some will disagree with that, but he's shown great flashes as the focal point of the offense, the team clearly benefits from him being more aggressive and we are always in games when he decides to assert himself early. I think it's time to let him do his thing.
I would also really like to see our team chemistry get better and less buddy ball or passing guys up that they don't trust, if our players don't trust each other, then we've already lost.
Those are the two things I wanna see most. How about you guys?
I hate that term "Buddy ball" we have some of the worst shooters in the NBA in the SL. It's not buddy ball imo is passing to the guys that can actually score. Fournier driving and kicking to Payton or AG out on the perimeter is not a better option than passing to an open Vucevic.
I do think however that we need to see if playing our scorers off the ball more is truly an option as it was the second half or if it was just successful because it was the second half and they weren't getting other teams best effort.
I want to see all of the guys on our team make strides. Especially Mario.
I hate that term as well, but it's also not fair that Fournier gets to make that decision all on his own and decide not to trust certain teammates. I'm one of the few people that love Fournier and Vuc, but Fournier needs to try to get everyone involved when they're open if he continues to have the ball in his hands. That's not a role he's comfortable with so I understand his struggles while trying to make plays for others, but that's why I want the ball in Payton's hands so he can make those plays since he's comfortable making them.
Btw, the main thing I meant by buddy ball was that we need to move the ball more in general. It should not be a decision between forcing up a bad contested shot or pass it to Vuc and that's it. It should be if you don't have the shot, pass it up and move the ball around and most importantly, the thing we fail to do every year it seems, move without the ball. We need more stuff like cutting without the ball, off ball screens, stuff like that. We wouldn't need to worry about spacing as much if we ran more off ball stuff because we'd be keeping the defenders on their toes and making them move around and switch and they couldn't just camp the paint.
I hate the term because it creates this false narrative that Fournier and Vuc only like each other and hate the other players on the team.
I think its absolutely fair that Fournier makes that decision because the coaching staff trusted him with the ball. They gave the ball to payton second half of the season because he earned imo. Despite all of my concerns he played hard and got everyone involved. A passive Elfrid Payton is useless to us so if he's going to be passive then they need to give the ball to someone else.
I agree that there needs to be more ball movement but if guys are going to be scared to shoot when they get the ball, like Payton, AG, and Mario all did last season then they wont get it and I'm fine with that. Because by those guys not taking those open shots they bail out the defense. Even though I think they're both atrocious shooters, I'd rather them shoot wide open 3's so there's a chance we get an offensive rebound with Vuc down there if its a miss, than the play resulting in a botched possession.
Spacing is what makes things like moving without the ball, cutting to the basket, attacking the basket, and posting up possible. Its what makes teams have to move and scramble and not camp the paint on defense. Cutting doesn't do that with this team. If our team started cutting more for back door baskets and more movement off the ball, teams could just switch to a zone and completely eliminate our offense. Matter of fact with our lack of shooting Im surprised more teams didnt zone us up. Maybe they did and I was just too busy laughing every time our $17 million dollar center looked like Dasagna Diop.
plenty of proof and you know it. Not getting into this with you.
