axl_c_cool wrote:LBPTarHeel27 wrote:magicman112 wrote:
Yep he doesn't have to commit long term here. See how it goes this season and then the following season by deadline time or around the draft you can deal him if it looks like he's going to walk.
I don't think that hurts his value....if anything, in this specific scenario, it helps his value. If he came out and said the only place he'd commit to long term was X, Y, & Z, it narrows Cleveland's chances to get a decent package. I don't think anyone would expect him to commit long term to a brand new team with two years left on his deal. It's too early to commit long term, anywhere.
I think it hurts his value but opens up more options, It limits what teams are going to give, that's the main point of this to me. Personally I put anyone on the table who isn't Gordon or Isaac and say make a package. In a straight deal there are 4 options to me
Package 1 (Small): Vucevic/Ross/Payton for Irving
Package 2 (Medium): Vucevic/Fournier/Payton for Irving/Shumpert
Package 3 (Large): Vucevic/Fournier/Ross/Payton for Irving/Shumpert/Frye
Package (Extra Large): Vucevic/Fournier/Ross/Payton/ for Irving/Shumpert/Frye/Smith
We can add picks in where needed with any deal, they each raise in players depending on who Cleveland want to keep, each of our players are an upgrade with contract, age, and ability though
I'll take option 3 and that 7.5 mill Frye expiring.
Kyrie/Mack
Shump/AA
Simmons/Hezjona
AG/Isaac/Frye
Biz/Speights/Birch
I don't know how many games this lineup could win. Would Kyrie and Luka work? If so ask Kyrie to be patient tank this year, add a top 3 talent to that core. ^ Hope to see added growth from AG/Hezjona, Isaac. Kyrie, AG, Hezonja, Isaac, top 3 talent is a nice core to have moving forward. IF Kyrie stays, he could help recruit FAs down the road. Frye & AA expiring's come off the books = 9 mill, Shump the following year = 10 mill. 19 mill comes off the books next two seasons between those 3. That money plus if you can get out from under Biz contract, maybe have enough for Kyrie, AG extensions?
That would be Kyrie's team like he wants, not playing 2nd fiddle to anyone.
Could also attempt to move Biz, then take Bagley, Ayton or Bamba as your top 3 pick, If Kyrie/Luka are not a good pairing.
