Official Speculation Thread '17-'18: Volume XV: The Evaluation Season

Statlanta · Post #1 » by **Statlanta** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:53 am

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Is it me or have Magic posters been breaking GB news lately?

EasternMagic · Post #2 » by **EasternMagic** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:28 am

It's hard to believe that the Magic aren't just going to toss Elfrid at anyone who wants him after tonight.

fendilim · Post #3 » by **fendilim** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:46 am

EasternMagic wrote:It's hard to believe that the Magic aren't just going to toss Elfrid at anyone who wants him after tonight.

id actually want to get a 1st round pick for him. but seeing how much stars go these days, paul george, blake and dmc, i have given up that hope.

i guess its better to acquire young unproven talent like how henni got a steal in fournier or tobias for pennies.

EasternMagic · Post #4 » by **EasternMagic** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:55 am

fendilim wrote:
EasternMagic wrote:It's hard to believe that the Magic aren't just going to toss Elfrid at anyone who wants him after tonight.

id actually want to get a 1st round pick for him. but seeing how much stars go these days, paul george, blake and dmc, i have given up that hope.

i guess its better to acquire young unproven talent like how henni got a steal in fournier or tobias for pennies.

I was hoping the same thing, and then I saw what it took for Detroit to get Griffin.

EasternMagic · Post #5 » by **EasternMagic** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:56 am

Speaking of Detroit, Stanley Johnson's stat line tonight. WOW.

woosah · Post #6 » by **woosah** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:06 am

EasternMagic wrote:Speaking of Detroit, Stanley Johnson's stat line tonight. WOW.

so is that just a random props thing for this guy or do you want Stanley Johnson?

just not sure since he supposedly can't shoot but we get mad at Elfrid because he can't shoot. Thought Stan was trying to give him away in a trade earlier this year? just ah wondering.

wonder if other teams do that when Elfrid puts up good stats. we sh** on the guy (well yall do) and others say "cool stats from Payton. He's coming along."

EasternMagic · Post #7 » by **EasternMagic** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:13 am

woosah wrote:
EasternMagic wrote:Speaking of Detroit, Stanley Johnson's stat line tonight. WOW.

so is that just a random props thing for this guy or do you want Stanley Johnson?

just not sure since he supposedly can't shoot but we get mad at Elfrid because he can't shoot. Thought Stan was trying to give him away in a trade earlier this year? just ah wondering.

wonder if other teams do that when Elfrid puts up good stats. we sh** on the guy (well yall do) and others say "cool stats from Payton. He's coming along."

More of just a random shout out. I know he's been mentioned with the Magic in rumors, and that he's been locked up in SVG prison. I'd say as an NBA fan, I am interested in where his career goes.

It's a very different situation than what's going on with Elfrid though. I'd say it's more comparable to what had been going on with Mario Hezonja. Elfrid has been given every chance to prove himself, but like I said earlier, Stanley has been buried in Stans rotation for most of the season.

thelead · Post #8 » by **thelead** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:15 am

EasternMagic wrote:Speaking of Detroit, Stanley Johnson's stat line tonight. WOW.

I checked it out... pretty good... but what made me go WOW was looking at IT's +/-

Cleveland is in trouble

EasternMagic · Post #9 » by **EasternMagic** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:16 am

thelead wrote:
EasternMagic wrote:Speaking of Detroit, Stanley Johnson's stat line tonight. WOW.

I checked it out... pretty good... but what made me go WOW was looking at IT's +/-

Cleveland is in trouble

Very true. That definitely is a huge factor.

MagicStarwipe · Post #10 » by **MagicStarwipe** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:33 am

EasternMagic wrote:It's hard to believe that the Magic aren't just going to toss Elfrid at anyone who wants him after tonight.

What happened tonight? He got in foul trouble and was forced to sit on the bench for longer than he deserved because DJ and Mack had ok nights. Elfrid's like the only guy on the team (ok maybe Birch and Mario too) that could be absolutely killing it in his minutes but still only get around 30 minutes of playing time. If DJ isn't bricking shots and turning it over left and right, you can be sure Vogel will be leaving him in longer than he should.

But hey, Elfrid is a 23year old PG, so it's not like he's going to develop his game any further despite the fact that his shooting gets better every season.

nymets1 · Post #11 » by **nymets1** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:35 am

I'm guessing Stanley Johnson will remain a starter or starter minutes once Blake Griffin plays. Anthony Tolliver and/ or Reggie Bullock minutes get reduced when Blake Griffin is ready.

Kevin Love out for a while, Channing Frye could be the main beneficiary.

Alex Smith is traded from the Chiefs to the Redskins, It's Patrick Mahomes time in KC.

EasternMagic · Post #12 » by **EasternMagic** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:37 am

MagicStarwipe wrote:
EasternMagic wrote:It's hard to believe that the Magic aren't just going to toss Elfrid at anyone who wants him after tonight.

What happened tonight? He got in foul trouble and was forced to sit on the bench for longer than he deserved because DJ and Mack had ok nights. Elfrid's like the only guy on the team (ok maybe Birch and Mario too) that could be absolutely killing it in his minutes but still only get around 30 minutes of playing time. If DJ isn't bricking shots and turning it over left and right, you can be sure Vogel will be leaving him in longer than he should.

But hey, Elfrid is a 23year old PG, so it's not like he's going to develop his game any further despite the fact that his shooting gets better every season.

I think you're misreading my statement. I'm simply saying it seems like the writing is on the wall for his future with the team. I've always been a supporter of Elf and have always rooted for him. AND 23 is the general age that we give up on players who go off and create a nice career for themselves. But I'm also not sure, considering where this team is at, that I'd be willing to pay out to keep him around.

woosah · Post #13 » by **woosah** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:38 am

Still no quotes or reaction publicly from Blake? He has to get it together eh? Shook and probably still mad as hell.

MagicStarwipe · Post #14 » by **MagicStarwipe** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:39 am

EasternMagic wrote:
MagicStarwipe wrote:
EasternMagic wrote:It's hard to believe that the Magic aren't just going to toss Elfrid at anyone who wants him after tonight.

What happened tonight? He got in foul trouble and was forced to sit on the bench for longer than he deserved because DJ and Mack had ok nights. Elfrid's like the only guy on the team (ok maybe Birch and Mario too) that could be absolutely killing it in his minutes but still only get around 30 minutes of playing time. If DJ isn't bricking shots and turning it over left and right, you can be sure Vogel will be leaving him in longer than he should.

But hey, Elfrid is a 23year old PG, so it's not like he's going to develop his game any further despite the fact that his shooting gets better every season.

I think you're misreading my statement. I'm simply saying it seems like the writing is on the wall for his future with the team. I've always been a supporter of Elf and have always rooted for him. AND 23 is the general age that we give up on players who go off and create a nice career for themselves. But I'm also not sure, considering where this team is at, that I'd be willing to pay out to keep him around.

Fair enough. I'd pay him if the price is right though.

fendilim · Post #15 » by **fendilim** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:43 am

nymets1 wrote:I'm guessing Stanley Johnson will remain a starter or starter minutes once Blake Griffin plays. Anthony Tolliver and/ or Reggie Bullock minutes get reduced when Blake Griffin is ready.

Kevin Love out for a while, Channing Frye could be the main beneficiary.

Alex Smith is traded from the Chiefs to the Redskins, It's Patrick Mahomes time in KC.

The cavs could use Vuc...

pepe1991 · Post #16 » by **pepe1991** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:47 am

fendilim wrote:
nymets1 wrote:I'm guessing Stanley Johnson will remain a starter or starter minutes once Blake Griffin plays. Anthony Tolliver and/ or Reggie Bullock minutes get reduced when Blake Griffin is ready.

Kevin Love out for a while, Channing Frye could be the main beneficiary.

Alex Smith is traded from the Chiefs to the Redskins, It's Patrick Mahomes time in KC.

The cavs could use Vuc...

Cavs could use you and me at this point...

p0peye · Post #17 » by **p0peye** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:48 am

Both Thomas and Crowder had horrible +/- in this game.

tiderulz · Post #18 » by **tiderulz** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:38 pm

nymets1 wrote:I'm guessing Stanley Johnson will remain a starter or starter minutes once Blake Griffin plays. Anthony Tolliver and/ or Reggie Bullock minutes get reduced when Blake Griffin is ready.

Kevin Love out for a while, Channing Frye could be the main beneficiary.

Alex Smith is traded from the Chiefs to the Redskins, It's Patrick Mahomes time in KC.

i really think KC is going to regret that move. Trying for force Mahones in could easily backfire. Look at Rodgers, he sat behind Favre for 3 years learning, Mahones did 1 year. Could be wrong, but for a playoff team, putting in a QB that young with not much playing time is going to backfire

Blue_and_Whte · Post #19 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:43 pm

fendilim wrote:
nymets1 wrote:I'm guessing Stanley Johnson will remain a starter or starter minutes once Blake Griffin plays. Anthony Tolliver and/ or Reggie Bullock minutes get reduced when Blake Griffin is ready.

Kevin Love out for a while, Channing Frye could be the main beneficiary.

Alex Smith is traded from the Chiefs to the Redskins, It's Patrick Mahomes time in KC.

The cavs could use Vuc...

Outside of Lebron or IT there is nobody on that roster I’d swap Vuc for.

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rcklsscognition · Post #20 » by **rcklsscognition** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:54 pm

Exciting news of the day has to be we are wearing our City uniforms tonight. I'm excited to see them.