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Gamethread: Magic @ Lakers 03/07

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Gamethread: Magic @ Lakers 03/07 

Post#1 » by ducler » Wed Mar 7, 2018 8:11 pm

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Re: Gamethread: Magic @ Lakers 03/07 

Post#2 » by Mario_Kasun » Wed Mar 7, 2018 8:15 pm

Mack vs IT. The battle of 2 PGs that dont pass and play zero defense. That's what I'm looking forward to tonight...
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Re: Gamethread: Magic @ Lakers 03/07 

Post#3 » by Shady Franchise » Wed Mar 7, 2018 8:31 pm

I get to see it on local TV! Here's to a better shooting night by Isaac, and more minutes.
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Re: Gamethread: Magic @ Lakers 03/07 

Post#4 » by Driguez » Wed Mar 7, 2018 8:58 pm

Apparently Frank is looking to start Issac tonight, I might tune in.
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Re: Gamethread: Magic @ Lakers 03/07 

Post#5 » by PrimeThyme » Wed Mar 7, 2018 10:30 pm

Magic coach Frank Vogel, who admitted that he is seriously considering moving Isaac into a more prominent role as soon as tonight, stressed that he isn’t worried much at all about Isaac’s offensive game because of the way he’s defended for the Magic.

``We’ve got to figure out where he fits in terms of offensive organization alongside of Aaron Gordon or with Mario Hezonja and sliding (Isaac) over to (small forward) some,’’ Vogel said. ``Defensively, it doesn’t matter what position he plays because he impacts the game right now. He’s defending like he’s our best – or one of our best – defenders as a rookie. He’s pretty special, so I’m definitely (looking to grow Isaac’s role).

``I’m a coach who has felt like we’ve struggled to have enough defensive firepower over the last two years,’’ Vogel added. ``So it’s definitely tempting to get him out there as much as possible.’’

Vogel and the Magic are still restricted by the minutes’ limit that is on Isaac’s playing time. The rookie played 15 minutes in his first game back and his minutes were upped to 18 in each of the next two games.

Vogel feels that a run-out dunk, a backdoor cut for a layup or an uncontested jump shot that finds the net could be just the impetus to jump-start Isaac’s confidence on the offensive end of the floor. Until then, Vogel wants the rookie to be patient with his shooting and keep the focus on the defensive end of the floor.

``If he doesn’t get (an easy basket), I really don’t care,’’ Vogel said. ``I think he understands that it’s going to take a little time to get his rhythm and timing offensively, but his defense is where he’s making his money right now and where he’s helping the team. He’s making good basketball plays – I’d rather see him go 0-for-two or 0-for-four than two-for-12 where he’s out there trying to force things. One of his gifts is that he plays within himself on the offensive end. I think that’s great and I don’t really want him to change that.’’
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Re: Gamethread: Magic @ Lakers 03/07 

Post#6 » by GameOver25 » Wed Mar 7, 2018 10:45 pm

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Magic coach Frank Vogel, who admitted that he is seriously considering moving Isaac into a more prominent role as soon as tonight, stressed that he isn’t worried much at all about Isaac’s offensive game because of the way he’s defended for the Magic.

``We’ve got to figure out where he fits in terms of offensive organization alongside of Aaron Gordon or with Mario Hezonja and sliding (Isaac) over to (small forward) some,’’ Vogel said. ``Defensively, it doesn’t matter what position he plays because he impacts the game right now. He’s defending like he’s our best – or one of our best – defenders as a rookie. He’s pretty special, so I’m definitely (looking to grow Isaac’s role).

``I’m a coach who has felt like we’ve struggled to have enough defensive firepower over the last two years,’’ Vogel added. ``So it’s definitely tempting to get him out there as much as possible.’’

Vogel and the Magic are still restricted by the minutes’ limit that is on Isaac’s playing time. The rookie played 15 minutes in his first game back and his minutes were upped to 18 in each of the next two games.

Vogel feels that a run-out dunk, a backdoor cut for a layup or an uncontested jump shot that finds the net could be just the impetus to jump-start Isaac’s confidence on the offensive end of the floor. Until then, Vogel wants the rookie to be patient with his shooting and keep the focus on the defensive end of the floor.

``If he doesn’t get (an easy basket), I really don’t care,’’ Vogel said. ``I think he understands that it’s going to take a little time to get his rhythm and timing offensively, but his defense is where he’s making his money right now and where he’s helping the team. He’s making good basketball plays – I’d rather see him go 0-for-two or 0-for-four than two-for-12 where he’s out there trying to force things. One of his gifts is that he plays within himself on the offensive end. I think that’s great and I don’t really want him to change that.’’


Sounds like Vogel is trying to save his Magic coaching career.
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Re: Gamethread: Magic @ Lakers 03/07 

Post#7 » by Shady Franchise » Wed Mar 7, 2018 10:46 pm

I would have liked to see Isaac vs Ingram in this game. Is Ingram out? Just saw the OP. He's out, darn.
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Re: Gamethread: Magic @ Lakers 03/07 

Post#8 » by ChosenSavior » Wed Mar 7, 2018 11:18 pm

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Magic coach Frank Vogel, who admitted that he is seriously considering moving Isaac into a more prominent role as soon as tonight, stressed that he isn’t worried much at all about Isaac’s offensive game because of the way he’s defended for the Magic.

``We’ve got to figure out where he fits in terms of offensive organization alongside of Aaron Gordon or with Mario Hezonja and sliding (Isaac) over to (small forward) some,’’ Vogel said. ``Defensively, it doesn’t matter what position he plays because he impacts the game right now. He’s defending like he’s our best – or one of our best – defenders as a rookie. He’s pretty special, so I’m definitely (looking to grow Isaac’s role).

``I’m a coach who has felt like we’ve struggled to have enough defensive firepower over the last two years,’’ Vogel added. ``So it’s definitely tempting to get him out there as much as possible.’’

Vogel and the Magic are still restricted by the minutes’ limit that is on Isaac’s playing time. The rookie played 15 minutes in his first game back and his minutes were upped to 18 in each of the next two games.

Vogel feels that a run-out dunk, a backdoor cut for a layup or an uncontested jump shot that finds the net could be just the impetus to jump-start Isaac’s confidence on the offensive end of the floor. Until then, Vogel wants the rookie to be patient with his shooting and keep the focus on the defensive end of the floor.

``If he doesn’t get (an easy basket), I really don’t care,’’ Vogel said. ``I think he understands that it’s going to take a little time to get his rhythm and timing offensively, but his defense is where he’s making his money right now and where he’s helping the team. He’s making good basketball plays – I’d rather see him go 0-for-two or 0-for-four than two-for-12 where he’s out there trying to force things. One of his gifts is that he plays within himself on the offensive end. I think that’s great and I don’t really want him to change that.’’


Sounds like Vogel is trying to save his Magic coaching career.


Yep sure is but man I can't help but love the quotes from him regarding Isaac. Unleash this kid and let's see if him, Mario and AG can coexist.
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Re: Gamethread: Magic @ Lakers 03/07 

Post#9 » by basketballRob » Wed Mar 7, 2018 11:43 pm

Shady Franchise wrote:I would have liked to see Isaac vs Ingram in this game. Is Ingram out? Just saw the OP. He's out, darn.


They're both the same age but Ingram is way better offensively at this point.
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Re: Gamethread: Magic @ Lakers 03/07 

Post#10 » by FrenchMagic » Wed Mar 7, 2018 11:44 pm

Keep Vogel, we need stability.
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Re: Gamethread: Magic @ Lakers 03/07 

Post#11 » by Shady Franchise » Thu Mar 8, 2018 12:06 am

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Shady Franchise wrote:I would have liked to see Isaac vs Ingram in this game. Is Ingram out? Just saw the OP. He's out, darn.


They're both the same age but Ingram is way better offensively at this point.


Yeah,that's exactly why I wanted to see Isaac (defense) vs Ingram (offense). Isaac shutting down Ingles is big, and it would have been interesting to see two young prospects go at it on defense and offense.
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Re: Gamethread: Magic @ Lakers 03/07 

Post#12 » by MagicStarwipe » Thu Mar 8, 2018 12:24 am

FrenchMagic wrote:Keep Vogel, we need stability.


I'm all for stability, but I'd like to bring in a coach that isn't a complete moron first.
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Re: Gamethread: Magic @ Lakers 03/07 

Post#13 » by NickAnderson » Thu Mar 8, 2018 12:44 am

Mario_Kasun wrote:Mack vs IT. The battle of 2 PGs that dont pass and play zero defense. That's what I'm looking forward to tonight...


You serious? Mack plays defense and passes all the time


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Re: Gamethread: Magic @ Lakers 03/07 

Post#14 » by SOUL » Thu Mar 8, 2018 12:46 am

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Mario_Kasun wrote:Mack vs IT. The battle of 2 PGs that dont pass and play zero defense. That's what I'm looking forward to tonight...


You serious? Mack plays defense and passes all the time


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Sounds more like DJ, though he's played decent lately.
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Re: Gamethread: Magic @ Lakers 03/07 

Post#15 » by NickAnderson » Thu Mar 8, 2018 12:48 am

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Mario_Kasun wrote:Mack vs IT. The battle of 2 PGs that dont pass and play zero defense. That's what I'm looking forward to tonight...


You serious? Mack plays defense and passes all the time


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Sounds more like DJ, though he's played decent lately.


As much as people hate both of them. They’ve both played well for us this season.


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Re: Gamethread: Magic @ Lakers 03/07 

Post#16 » by Blue_and_Whte » Thu Mar 8, 2018 1:40 am

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You serious? Mack plays defense and passes all the time


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Sounds more like DJ, though he's played decent lately.


As much as people hate both of them. They’ve both played well for us this season.


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I was about to say, they’ve been good for us. The OPs description of Mack is way off.


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Re: Gamethread: Magic @ Lakers 03/07 

Post#17 » by MagicFan101 » Thu Mar 8, 2018 1:45 am

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Shady Franchise wrote:I would have liked to see Isaac vs Ingram in this game. Is Ingram out? Just saw the OP. He's out, darn.


They're both the same age but Ingram is way better offensively at this point.


And Isaac is way better defensively at this point.
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Re: Gamethread: Magic @ Lakers 03/07 

Post#18 » by Mario_Kasun » Thu Mar 8, 2018 2:50 am

Simmons is starting again per rotowire.. sigh
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Re: Gamethread: Magic @ Lakers 03/07 

Post#19 » by MagicStarwipe » Thu Mar 8, 2018 3:00 am

What does Vogel see in Simmons? Especially as a starter.
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Re: Gamethread: Magic @ Lakers 03/07 

Post#20 » by Mario_Kasun » Thu Mar 8, 2018 3:17 am

MagicStarwipe wrote:What does Vogel see in Simmons? Especially as a starter.


Vogel gonna Vogel. Hopefully we get to see 20 mins of J Isaac tonight

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