Sign and trade Gordon?

[Airgordon00]

Would you consider it as magic fans? What sort of trade package do you think we could fetch or want to get in return?

Aaron Gordon is my favorite player on the team but apart of me believes there is a possibility he gets traded this offseason so I’m curious to see what you guys think. Could we fetch a borderline all star or a young up and coming talent?


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[fklt]

nothing short of kemba.

[j-ragg]

Sign and trades are pretty rare, and they're usually heavily lopsided.

[BadMofoPimp]

Horrible idea. Lets trade all rising talent to become future all-stars for other teams. That is the premise of a team that wants to suck for the next decade.

[MagicFan101]

nothing short of kemba.

Gordon for Kemba? Get out of here.

[Max Power]

I only consider that if we get someone better than Gordon. You’ve got to have something in the cupboard here. Issac isn’t it. One has to remember that the team is losing money hand over fist, and has since Dwight’s last year here. Ownership probably wants a winner sooner than later. It’s been 6 years. I don’t think trading our only viable long term star prospect is a good idea unless it comes with a replacement.


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[drsd]

I cannot fathom whom Orlando would trade Gordon for. A SnT means a max-player. What max-player is being floated on the trade market at 80¢ to the dollar?

Look at the list and please tell me:
Reference LINK for player salaries



EDIT:
I am deeply disturbed by a number of multi-year salaries on this list.
Paul Millsap making 30M
Mike Conley making 29M
Jrue Holiday making 26M
Chandler Parsons making 24M
Steven Adams making 22M
Danilo Gallinari making 20M
George Hill making 20M
Allen Crabbe making 19M




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[Nemesis21]

If it's for Kawhi, yes.

[PrimeThyme]

If we do it's going to be pretty awkward for you considering what your username is.

[Rainwater]

Horrible idea. Lets trade all rising talent to become future all-stars for other teams. That is the premise of a team that wants to suck for the next decade.

Is Gordon really a future all-star though? Unlike Victor, Gordon has been given the keys to this ship and really has not looked impressive. I believe that Aaron Gordon is closer to a Dedmon, Harkaless, Ariza level player then a Victor level player on a decent team.

[Def Swami]

I'm pleased with Gordon's growth curve despite being jerked around and mismanaged for his entire NBA career. Other NBA development programs and coaches would have figured Gordon's skill set out by now. He's really supposed to be a more athletic Draymond Green and I still think he has that potential. Instead, we've been trying to develop him as a scoring wing simply because he wants to and we have a huge absence there. Some other coach is going to figure out how to harness his skill and athleticism. I'm really not interested in trading him, and I think folks will be surprised by his contract. I initially thought he was climbing in the $20 million territory, but given how much the market has dried up, I think he's looking closer at $15-$17 mill a year. For a 22 year old with his athleticism, skill set, and ceiling, I'm still interested to see it through. I don't believe we're going to get a return that changes anything for us anyway. He's more valuable to us as a player and future trade asset.

Sign and trades are also very hard to pull off. It requires cooperation between so many parties, including the 2 teams and the player has to actually want to go to the next team. And the value in return for Gordon just doesn't make sense to trade in his potential growth. Hammond and Weltman made their decision on Gordon at the trade deadline. Gordon is going to be matched on the open market.

[PennytoShaq]

I think weltman and hammond indeed see AG as a Draymon Green type and hope Isaac can become similar to KD (it is documented that Isaac has studied KD's game and wants to play the wing like he did). Before everyone melts down, I am just saying that those 2 styles of player make sense on the floor especially if Isaac makes big strides on offense. I don't see Isaac becoming the best player in basketball or anything crazy, but his defense balances it out. I also want to see how well his handle and offensive game improves over the next 1-2 years before assuming he doesn't have the skillset. Ingram is a guy who was being called a bust after his rookie year, and now he appears to be the Lakers most promising player, so it's too early to make assumptions on Isaac's offensive limitations.

With that logic, it makes sense to keep AG and I also think he will not get the max. I have been saying that all year. I think he gets 17 or 18 a year. We get the right coach who tells him the truth - "you are a defender first, a guy who should only take open 3s and a guy who needs to clean up inside and get his buckets off rolls" and let him and Isaac give people fits on D.

Birch fits the mold for what we need from the 5 spot.

All that in mind, the guys who make the most sense in this format are Fournier at SG and Doncic at the point. Or Trey Young at the point and Evan at SG.

The Magic could also take a look at Avery Bradley if they get Trey Young. I would love to have that guy here - he had a rough year which hurt his value a a little (good thing for free agency), but this is a real defender with a 7 foot wingspan who can shoot the 3 ball and be a crunchtime scorer. You put him next to Young and that would be a lineup that makes sense, and would be somewhat similar to what the Warriors are doing. Would we be the Warriors? Nope, but with the right coaching, we would finally have a true starting 5 that can switch and be able to take advantage of matchups on offense, which is the core of what Golden State does.

If you get Bradley, you shop Evan and Vuc for promising young players who would strengthen our bench (PG and SF would be ideal). Build the bench around Simmons being the main scoring threat and make Biz play as a reserve behind a G League guy so hopefully he gets upset and doesn't exercise his option (fantasy, but why not).

[Airgordon00]

If we do it's going to be pretty awkward for you considering what your username is.

Lol that’s true but it seems like all my favorite players have all gotten traded tmac and Dwight.


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[VFX]

MPj gets compared to Paul George a fair amount, so it's safe to say he can play either PF or SF.The issue is that we have 2 other guys who play that position already, plus trading away AG for an MPj/Isaac tandem is bit risky unless MPj is clearly good to go.

If so, the FO will probably strongly consider moving AG in a S&T. I can't imagine the Magic playing all 3 of those guys together, but crazier things have happened.

I could 100% see this happening if there is a buyer for AG with decent return. He’s played terribly at the end of the season and doesn’t fit exactly what management want. Its also probably the smarter move to make instead of letting his contract dictate all of their future moves. Sure, it’s risky, but it’s a way of solving a lot of issues without either praying for correct draft picks or overpaying someone in free agency.

Problem is that's not how it works. The draft happens a month before AG can be moved. So it's not really a smart move at all, it's just plain risky. Teams will know that the Magic are hamstrung and won't give a great offer in a S&T.

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To be honest, I don’t think it would necessarily be a straight up S&T. It would probably be a resigning, WeHam draft exactly who they want, and they trade AG by the middle of next season. Obviously dependent on the available trade packages.

This is what has pissed me off with the entire mismanagement of AG saga. He’s not good enough to protect at all costs, but he’s enough of an asset that keeping him at the going rate has to be done. Furthermore, management has to build the lineup around his skill set, which I don’t entirely view as special the way most people do.

So while it’s not acceptable to lose AG for nothing, it’s also not ideal to pay a complimentary player the same as a star just because Orlando lacks talent on the whole. We are the Wizards with only Otto Porter and no Wall or Beal at that point.

[OrlandoMagic]

The more I think about this the more I am inclined to trade Gordon. I think he is an extremely talented player but I don’t see him as a superstar. Plus when you look back and see how many injuries he has already had so early in his career. I don’t think it would be wise of us to give him a near max if not max which is what I’m going to assume he will be asking for. With that being said if we were to trade him I would either want a top 5 pick or like someone else mentioned nothing shorts of Kemba.

[OrlandO]

Would have to be for a proven star otherwise we're just taking more steps back. Can't keep wasting years on players and letting them go before they even enter their prime. That's called being a farm team. Sign him... let him develop more this summer and see how he fits with Isaac next season. We can trade him the following year or the year after if needed. He's young and has only played for a dysfunctional team where he is expected to struggle, so his value to other teams will hold for a while.

I'm hoping he's played himself out of a max contract these last few months... would make it a lot easier for management to be patient with his development if he's making 20 mil instead of 25 mil.

[zaymon]

I would not sign Gordon for max money for two reasons. 1. He is not good enough. 2. He is at his best as 3-4 option. So giving him max will bring all the worse things from him. I hope there is no chance we give him that kind of spoiling money

[JF5]

I don't know what he'd yield... But I'd be surprised if the Organization did max him out.

[Furinkazan]

Ingram or Josh Jackson?

[BadMofoPimp]

Horrible idea. Lets trade all rising talent to become future all-stars for other teams. That is the premise of a team that wants to suck for the next decade.

Is Gordon really a future all-star though? Unlike Victor, Gordon has been given the keys to this ship and really has not looked impressive. I believe that Aaron Gordon is closer to a Dedmon, Harkaless, Ariza level player then a Victor level player on a decent team.

Damn, that is what everyone here was saying about Dipo. Instead of waiting to see what playings become in their prime, some of you want to ship them out for less. . .