The Orlando Magic Offseason Challenge

Skin · Post #1 » by **Skin** » Thu May 3, 2018 12:04 am

Come one, come all! This is the hottest game sweeping the nation!!!

Come play The Orlando Magic Offseason Challenge!

Help the Orlando Magic put together an offseason that will turn their fortunes around and make the playoffs! You are a Real GM! What moves do you make to fix this team?

These are the only restrictions:

1. You cannot draft DeAndre Ayton or Luka Doncic.

2. Any trade you post has to be substantiated by providing 2 or more reactionary quotes of approval from rival fans. For example, if you post a trade idea for Russell Westbrook, then you need to include your trade idea being received well from posts of fans from other teams. You can post your trade idea in the Trades and Transactions forum or Individual Team forums (encourage you to post the idea in that team's trade ideas thread, and not create your own thread in their forum)... oh and tread carefully to avoid getting roasted. :onfire:

This is the big boys league. This way we avoid day dream ideas from flooding this thread. You may use trade ideas that have been accepted and posted by others.

PennytoShaq · Post #2 » by **PennytoShaq** » Thu May 3, 2018 12:06 am

Love it, but we should do this after the lotto balls hit if it's going to be done right. It will make potential trades a lot better when every team knows where they stand.

Nemesis21 · Post #3 » by **Nemesis21** » Thu May 3, 2018 12:08 am

3. You can not draft Trae Young

Skin · Post #4 » by **Skin** » Thu May 3, 2018 12:08 am

PennytoShaq wrote:Love it, but we should do this after the lotto balls hit if it's going to be done right. It will make potential trades a lot better when every team knows where they stand.

Good idea. That can be version 2.0! We can't fool ourselves.. we're too restless around here too wait. :lol:

Nemesis21 · Post #5 » by **Nemesis21** » Thu May 3, 2018 12:32 am

Okay here we go!

Old man DeVos ponies up the money so WeHam can hire Jay Wright.

2018 draft: Mikal and Brunson.

Everybody is on the same page and understands what needs to happen in '18-'19. #EmbraceTheTank #WeNeedATop3

2019 draft: Cam Reddish

Your Orlando Magic for '19-'20 and beyond,

Brunson/Purvis
Reddish/J Simmons
Mikal/Artis
Gordon/Iwundu
Isaac/Birch

Not 1....

Not 2....

Not 3....

Not 4....

OrlMagic05 · Post #6 » by **OrlMagic05** » Thu May 3, 2018 12:46 am

Draft MPJ.. Done.

Skin · Post #7 » by **Skin** » Thu May 3, 2018 5:43 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:Okay here we go!

Old man DeVos ponies up the money so WeHam can hire Jay Wright.

2018 draft: Mikal and Brunson.

Everybody is on the same page and understands what needs to happen in '18-'19. #EmbraceTheTank #WeNeedATop3

2019 draft: Cam Reddish

Your Orlando Magic for '19-'20 and beyond,

Brunson/Purvis
Reddish/J Simmons
Mikal/Artis
Gordon/Iwundu
Isaac/Birch

Love the idea of getting Jay Wright and his cats. Unfortunately, it's too good to be true. :cry:

Skin · Post #8 » by **Skin** » Thu May 3, 2018 5:44 pm

OrlMagic05 wrote:Draft MPJ.. Done.

Where does he play and how does our line up look?

Nemesis21 · Post #9 » by **Nemesis21** » Thu May 3, 2018 5:48 pm

Skin wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:Okay here we go!

Old man DeVos ponies up the money so WeHam can hire Jay Wright.

2018 draft: Mikal and Brunson.

Everybody is on the same page and understands what needs to happen in '18-'19. #EmbraceTheTank #WeNeedATop3

2019 draft: Cam Reddish

Your Orlando Magic for '19-'20 and beyond,

Brunson/Purvis
Reddish/J Simmons
Mikal/Artis
Gordon/Iwundu
Isaac/Birch

Love the idea of getting Jay Wright and his cats. Unfortunately, it's too good to be true.

I won the contest

:rockon:

p0peye · Post #10 » by **p0peye** » Thu May 3, 2018 6:54 pm

Playoffs??

drsd · Post #11 » by **drsd** » Thu May 3, 2018 10:10 pm

Skin wrote:1. You cannot draft ... Luka Doncic.

Boo to you.

Anyhow, to play this game, Orlando drafts a Center up top, Jackson or Bamba. And then trades Vučević for another 1st to draft a PG: if fans believe in Vuc, then Young at #8 and if not then Gilgeous-Alexander at #13. The Center drafted depends on the PG intended to select.

I will call it as Vučević and Orlando's 2019 first and one of the seconds for Cleveland's #8, which leads to Young (and Smith as a salary dump; who is then stetch-relased), meaning Orlando drafts Bamba. If we take Hezonja on spec that he will resign (I don't believe him, but he is quoting as such). And draft Metu with the other 2nd.

The Magic becomes:
Augustin/Young/Mack
Fournier/Ross/Iwundu
Isaac/Simmons
Gordon/Hezonja/Metu
Bamba/Biyombo/Birch

That is a potential playoff team, so long as the new trainers kill the injury-bug.
I am more excited about the core of this team in 2019/20, but that is not the game being played.

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Skin · Post #12 » by **Skin** » Thu May 3, 2018 11:41 pm

drsd wrote:
Skin wrote:1. You cannot draft ... Luka Doncic.

Boo to you.

Anyhow, to play this game, Orlando drafts a Center up top, Jackson or Bamba. And then trades Vučević for another 1st to draft a PG: if fans believe in Vuc, then Young at #8 and if not then Gilgeous-Alexander at #13. The Center drafted depends on the PG intended to select.

I will call it as Vučević and Orlando's 2019 first and one of the seconds for Cleveland's #8, which leads to Young (and Smith as a salary dump; who is then stetch-relased), meaning Orlando drafts Bamba. If we take Hezonja on spec that he will resign (I don't believe him, but he is quoting as such). And draft Metu with the other 2nd.

The Magic becomes:
Augustin/Young/Mack
Fournier/Ross/Iwundu
Isaac/Simmons
Gordon/Hezonja/Metu
Bamba/Biyombo/Birch

That is a potential playoff team, so long as the new trainers kill the injury-bug.
I am more excited about the core of this team in 2019/20, but that is not the game being played.

..

Entry invalid. No supporting quotes from rival fans to validate what kind of Vucevic trade would return a 1st rounder.

OrlMagic05 · Post #13 » by **OrlMagic05** » Fri May 4, 2018 1:07 am

Skin wrote:
OrlMagic05 wrote:Draft MPJ.. Done.

Where does he play and how does our line up look?

At 3-5 he will be the BPA, you take him. I don't care what the lineup looks like or where he plays. If everything checkout with his back he is my pick, but if everything does checkout with his back he will go #3 which leaves us most likely with Trae of JJJ :banghead:

assuming Bagley goes 4.

PennytoShaq · Post #14 » by **PennytoShaq** » Fri May 4, 2018 3:21 am

Skin wrote:
drsd wrote:
Skin wrote:1. You cannot draft ... Luka Doncic.

Boo to you.

Anyhow, to play this game, Orlando drafts a Center up top, Jackson or Bamba. And then trades Vučević for another 1st to draft a PG: if fans believe in Vuc, then Young at #8 and if not then Gilgeous-Alexander at #13. The Center drafted depends on the PG intended to select.

I will call it as Vučević and Orlando's 2019 first and one of the seconds for Cleveland's #8, which leads to Young (and Smith as a salary dump; who is then stetch-relased), meaning Orlando drafts Bamba. If we take Hezonja on spec that he will resign (I don't believe him, but he is quoting as such). And draft Metu with the other 2nd.

The Magic becomes:
Augustin/Young/Mack
Fournier/Ross/Iwundu
Isaac/Simmons
Gordon/Hezonja/Metu
Bamba/Biyombo/Birch

That is a potential playoff team, so long as the new trainers kill the injury-bug.
I am more excited about the core of this team in 2019/20, but that is not the game being played.

..

Entry invalid. No supporting quotes from rival fans to validate what kind of Vucevic trade would return a 1st rounder.

That's what makes this great - no more of these crazy fantasy trades that would never happen.

Trading our 2019 first is insane.

Trae Young falling to 8 is insane.

Cleveland giving up their 8th pick for Vuc is insane, regardless of the 2019.

The entire thing is just not well thought out.

MartinsIzAfraud · Post #15 » by **MartinsIzAfraud** » Fri May 4, 2018 1:56 pm

The Orlando Magic select JJJ PF/C from Michigan State.

I would then look very hard at Portland's late 1st which is at 24.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yc6a5c3j

It's a simple but somewhat cap killing trade for 18-19 season. Evan Turner + 24 for Nik Vucevic straight up.

Why Orlando does this- the Magic have very little cap space but basically swap out Nik's 12.5 Mil for Turners 17.8 and 24th pick. Turner's extra 5ish mil would kill almost all of the open cap space this year which is at 8.8M. You could say it's a steep price to pay for a 24th pick but this also opens up a Big spot where we could take JJJ or even Bagley depending on where we land. At 24 Magic could wind up with the chance to take a Jalen Brunson PG, Troy Brown SG , Bates-Diop SF, Aaron Holiday PG, my sleeper pick of Khyri Thomas 6'3" with 6'10" wing span Combo Guard whose a career 41% from 3 in his 3 years at Creighton. Thomas also is a feisty defender whose willing to fight through screens and has active hands (56 steals this year over 33 games).

With this trade Magic would be able to get value in terms of a pick for Vuc while taking on some meh salary. This would allow new HC to have a young core of 5th, 24th, AG, Isaac to grow together over time and all being able to be on the floor at the same time which I feel is necessary when rebuilding for long term.

Why Portland does this- Pretty clear they need to get rid of the Turner cap hit so that's solved. Portland would be getting a great 6th man off the bench who can score and rebound the ball for a team that desperately needs help with both of those things. In the 4 game sweep vs the Pels they had 2 players score double figures (11+12). Yeah the defense for Portland is poor but not having a reliable guy to come off the bench is just as important IMO. If Vuc isn't working out they can deal him or let him expire. So in the end they haven't ruined cap space while getting rid of the contract of Turner and getting a solid 6th man for the 24th pick.

fendilim · Post #16 » by **fendilim** » Fri May 4, 2018 3:18 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:Okay here we go!

Old man DeVos ponies up the money so WeHam can hire Jay Wright.

2018 draft: Mikal and Brunson.

Everybody is on the same page and understands what needs to happen in '18-'19. #EmbraceTheTank #WeNeedATop3

2019 draft: Cam Reddish

Your Orlando Magic for '19-'20 and beyond,

Brunson/Purvis
Reddish/J Simmons
Mikal/Artis
Gordon/Iwundu
Isaac/Birch

Not 1....

Not 2....

Not 3....

Not 4....

None at all?

Nemesis21 · Post #17 » by **Nemesis21** » Fri May 4, 2018 3:37 pm

fendilim wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:Okay here we go!

Old man DeVos ponies up the money so WeHam can hire Jay Wright.

2018 draft: Mikal and Brunson.

Everybody is on the same page and understands what needs to happen in '18-'19. #EmbraceTheTank #WeNeedATop3

2019 draft: Cam Reddish

Your Orlando Magic for '19-'20 and beyond,

Brunson/Purvis
Reddish/J Simmons
Mikal/Artis
Gordon/Iwundu
Isaac/Birch

Not 1....

Not 2....

Not 3....

Not 4....

None at all?

Seriously? You didn't get that? You didn't watch Lebron's stupid decision, when he joined Miami?

fendilim · Post #18 » by **fendilim** » Fri May 4, 2018 3:51 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:
fendilim wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:Okay here we go!

Old man DeVos ponies up the money so WeHam can hire Jay Wright.

2018 draft: Mikal and Brunson.

Everybody is on the same page and understands what needs to happen in '18-'19. #EmbraceTheTank #WeNeedATop3

2019 draft: Cam Reddish

Your Orlando Magic for '19-'20 and beyond,

Brunson/Purvis
Reddish/J Simmons
Mikal/Artis
Gordon/Iwundu
Isaac/Birch

Not 1....

Not 2....

Not 3....

Not 4....

None at all?

Seriously? You didn't get that? You didn't watch Lebron's stupid decision, when he joined Miami?

drsd · Post #19 » by **drsd** » Fri May 4, 2018 7:01 pm

Skin wrote:Entry invalid. No supporting quotes from rival fans to validate what kind of Vucevic trade would return a 1st rounder.

I accept that many believe that I am over-valuing Vučević. I hope you accept that I think you are undervaluing him.

I think that Vučević and Orlando's 2019 1st for the rights to Young is a fair deal, particularly as I noted Orlando would absorb a bad contract from Cleveland.

The Cavs get a competent Center, an asset moving towards the future (in a good draft pick next year), and unload a deal that allows them to (easily) pick up a nice FA. Orlando gets a PG of the future.

How is that an unfair deal? I mean that respectfully. Why would Cleveland (assuming James resigns) go for that deal?

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Skin · Post #20 » by **Skin** » Fri May 4, 2018 7:38 pm

drsd wrote:
Skin wrote:Entry invalid. No supporting quotes from rival fans to validate what kind of Vucevic trade would return a 1st rounder.

I accept that many believe that I am over-valuing Vučević. I hope you accept that I think you are undervaluing him.

I think that Vučević and Orlando's 2019 1st for the rights to Young is a fair deal, particularly as I noted Orlando would absorb a bad contract from Cleveland.

The Cavs get a competent Center, an asset moving towards the future (in a good draft pick next year), and unload a deal that allows them to (easily) pick up a nice FA. Orlando gets a PG of the future.

How is that an unfair deal? I mean that respectfully. Why would Cleveland (assuming James resigns) go for that deal?

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I'm not here to be the judge, jury and executioner. All you have to do is follow the rules of the game.

If you think your trade idea is fair, then post it in the T&T forum or Team Forums to get other folks responses. All I ask is for you to get 2 or more responses from other rival posters in favor of your trade idea. Then it will count here!

This is the "advanced" version of your typical fake-ish offseason plan threads that pop up every offseason.