Orlando's two 2nd-round picks

[Mauro Pedrosa]

Trade up for DiVincenzo

[UCF]

Second round picks should always be BPA. Magic should park the guys in Lakeland for a year and go from there.

[yoyojw17]

https://deanondraft.com/2018/03/22/who-is-the-best-3-d-wing-in-the-draft/

Done a lot more research on Okogie and I want want want him BIG TIME... dude was on a terrible GT team but kid can ball. I expect him to creep into mid/late 1st round once combine is over and workouts start.

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Definitely has that donovan mitchell/ victor oladipo vibe!!! I'm sold.... and yes .... he looks like one that can be on the rise

[PrimeThyme]

Yeah, I want to trade them both with Vuc and try to move up into the teens or early 20s.

We'd probably have to include the Okc pick as well to try and get any traction on a trade. Just kind of glancing at the teams projected to be in the early teens (philly, Char, Lac, Den) not one of them needs a center either so I think its probably doubtful that Vuc would interest a team in that range. Moving in the 20 range is an option though. There just isnt many prospects at all that interest me outside the top 15 range. Last year was a far deeper draft outside of the lottery compared to this one.

[Xatticus]

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That's almost entirely opposite to the approach I would take. 3-point shooting is a skill that can improve dramatically. The large majority of second round success stories were productive players that lacked size, atleticism, or 3-point shooting. Deficiency in any one of these areas is enough to keep a prospect out of the first round.

The prospect types I would avoid in the second round are raw athletes or 3-point specialists.

[ralphie9898]

Yeah I voted for trading one or both. My focal point this offseason is to resign Gordon and try and resign Mario. After that I am going to be looking to be active on the trade front. My main focus would be to clear whatever money we can by trading guys like Augustin, Ross, Evan, and Vuc. Of course Biyombo too but I think he hurts any offer we make to much to where I only talk about him if another team asks about him which I don't think will be likely. The 2nd round picks we have this year and beyond as well as the OKC pick are fair game to be included. Of course everything is dependent on what is offered but I am not expecting a whole lot and would focus more on even just acquiring guys that are less expensive either through years left or total money owed. Maybe get a couple average young prospects or later picks. I would definitely pursue a trade up to try and acquire another later first. So we shall see but I would be fine if we kept them. I would consider guys like Duke or any of the Kentucky guys as I think they could have some hidden players who just got stuck behind a glut of really good talent. But yeah if we do it has to be best player but at that point it is extremely questionable who that will be. I would be fine with taking a questionable guy like even Diallo and seeing if we can strike gold or Duval and hope they can be better then people think.

[drsd]

The Magic definitely will not bring 2 second round picks to camp.

Other than that, the options are endless.

would like your reasoning behind that. or is this coming from a source you have with Orlando. Why cant a team bring in two 2nd round picks to camp? at worse, they dont make it past camp. At best, they astound everyone at camp. In the middle, they do enough to garner a G-league deal to be watched for further development.

Afflalo, Hezonja, Mack, and Speights should be gone. If we don't package one of the 2nd with Vuc there's no reason to not take a flyer on a guy with those picks which are early 2nd rounders. Looking at some Mocks there's guys like Allen, Wagner, Milton, Duval, Graham,Okogie, Evans and plenty of other names I'd take and let them have a 2 way. Especially if we don't take Trae then why not grab a PG with 35 or 41.

With a team that lacks talent continuing to kick solid 2nd round picks down the street seems like the wrong choice.

The second round looks loaded at the PG slot this year. One of the college seniors to replace Mack makes good sense to me. Right now NBAdraft.net has Orlando selecting Keenan Evans. He is interesting as a future spark-plug scorer off of the bench. Drafting him probably means a year in Lakeland. Devonte' Graham would be more natural for me a #35.

If the Magic go with a PF at #35, then how can WeHamm pass on Jevon Carter? He is a perfect practice-squad type. As the 13-15th man, he would make the league by hounding the Magic's starting PG in every practice. That is a perfect role for a 3rd-string PG.

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[tiderulz]

https://deanondraft.com/2018/03/22/who-is-the-best-3-d-wing-in-the-draft/

Done a lot more research on Okogie and I want want want him BIG TIME... dude was on a terrible GT team but kid can ball. I expect him to creep into mid/late 1st round once combine is over and workouts start.

Watch on YouTube

Definitely has that donovan mitchell/ victor oladipo vibe!!! I'm sold.... and yes .... he looks like one that can be on the rise

i dont see the Mitchell comparison. He is a strict 3 & D player. decent shooter, sub-par handles, good defender.

[rcklsscognition]

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That's almost entirely opposite to the approach I would take. 3-point shooting is a skill that can improve dramatically. The large majority of second round success stories were productive players that lacked size, atleticism, or 3-point shooting. Deficiency in any one of these areas is enough to keep a prospect out of the first round.

The prospect types I would avoid in the second round are raw athletes or 3-point specialists.

This is like 4D chess or something, right? Purposefully draft someone that isn't good instead of drafting someone that has an actual skill useful in today's NBA? I'm kidding. I'm with you on deficiencies, I'm saying, my draft will not be of someone that is a deficient 3 point shooter. That is what I am looking to have as a base. From there, I will build.

I don't think someone falls to the 2nd round just because they have 1 deficiency. They have many. I don't think offense is something that grows on trees, and I think we need to draft someone that can score and shows a willingness to shoot the 3 ball.

I would take a 3pt shooter plus maybe one of those 4-year players that falls due to age or another guy who is too small but can still make a 3.

[drsd]

This is like 4D chess or something, right? Purposefully draft someone that isn't good instead of drafting someone that has an actual skill useful in today's NBA? I'm kidding. I'm with you on deficiencies, I'm saying, my draft will not be of someone that is a deficient 3 point shooter. That is what I am looking to have as a base. From there, I will build.

I don't think someone falls to the 2nd round just because they have 1 deficiency. They have many. I don't think offense is something that grows on trees, and I think we need to draft someone that can score and shows a willingness to shoot the 3 ball.

I would take a 3pt shooter plus maybe one of those 4-year players that falls due to age or another guy who is too small but can still make a 3.

TO me the second round is about finding a serviceable bench player. Seniors with know skill sets is what I would prioritise. These players drop in drafts because they lack "upside." But they do have is known, testability skills to help a team. Last year this was: Davon Reed (terrible so far), Wesley Iwundu (value pick), Frank Mason (shows promise), Damyean Dotson (shows promise). THat's 3 out of 4. For 2016 this was: Malcolm Brogdon (outstanding player), AJ Hammons (scrub), Jake Layman (scrub), Michael Gbinije (scrub); so one home run and three strike outs. For 2015 this was: Anthony Brown (scrub), Rakeem Christmas (shows promise) Richaun Holmes (perfect example of a value rotational player), Darrun Hilliard (scrub), Josh Richardson (stellar player for the pick), and Pat Connaughton (valuable deep-bench player).

One thing looking at the seniors' list is that it is littered with SGs. That might not be a target for the Magic looking forward. This team is more in need of a PG looking down-the-road.


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[tiderulz]

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That's almost entirely opposite to the approach I would take. 3-point shooting is a skill that can improve dramatically. The large majority of second round success stories were productive players that lacked size, atleticism, or 3-point shooting. Deficiency in any one of these areas is enough to keep a prospect out of the first round.

The prospect types I would avoid in the second round are raw athletes or 3-point specialists.

This is like 4D chess or something, right? Purposefully draft someone that isn't good instead of drafting someone that has an actual skill useful in today's NBA? I'm kidding. I'm with you on deficiencies, I'm saying, my draft will not be of someone that is a deficient 3 point shooter. That is what I am looking to have as a base. From there, I will build.

I don't think someone falls to the 2nd round just because they have 1 deficiency. They have many. I don't think offense is something that grows on trees, and I think we need to draft someone that can score and shows a willingness to shoot the 3 ball.

I would take a 3pt shooter plus maybe one of those 4-year players that falls due to age or another guy who is too small but can still make a 3.

I would say size is the only singular deficiency that causes some players to drop to the 2nd round

[thelead]

The draft is gonna flatten out

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[BadMofoPimp]

I say keep both. Most 2nd rounders end up out of the league. At least with 2 picks, have a better chance of one sticking. Heck, could even just cut the worse of the two after training camp or send to J-League.

[Xatticus]

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That's almost entirely opposite to the approach I would take. 3-point shooting is a skill that can improve dramatically. The large majority of second round success stories were productive players that lacked size, atleticism, or 3-point shooting. Deficiency in any one of these areas is enough to keep a prospect out of the first round.

The prospect types I would avoid in the second round are raw athletes or 3-point specialists.

This is like 4D chess or something, right? Purposefully draft someone that isn't good instead of drafting someone that has an actual skill useful in today's NBA? I'm kidding. I'm with you on deficiencies, I'm saying, my draft will not be of someone that is a deficient 3 point shooter. That is what I am looking to have as a base. From there, I will build.

I don't think someone falls to the 2nd round just because they have 1 deficiency. They have many. I don't think offense is something that grows on trees, and I think we need to draft someone that can score and shows a willingness to shoot the 3 ball.

I would take a 3pt shooter plus maybe one of those 4-year players that falls due to age or another guy who is too small but can still make a 3.

It's really just based on analysis of second round picks that did become good players.

PJ Tucker, Doug Christie, Jimmy Butler are examples of wings that were overlooked because they couldn't shoot. These were highly productive collegiate players. There are many more such examples. Some learn to shoot... some don't. Gary Clark of Cincinnati is one such player this year. If he develops a shot, you are looking at a pretty good player.

Bigs that exceed expectations tend to be those that have skill sets robust enough to overcome the concerns about their athleticism. Brad Miller and Nikola Jokic are examples.

Draymond Green was considered undersized for a big, but it's less likely that players of his type will fly as far under the radar as he did with the current emphasis on wingspans and the ability to switch onto smaller defenders on the perimeter.

These are only a few examples and they weren't all second round picks, but they are representative of an overarching theme regarding late draft success stories.

[Nemesis21]

Yeah, I want to trade them both with Vuc and try to move up into the teens or early 20s.

We'd probably have to include the Okc pick as well to try and get any traction on a trade. Just kind of glancing at the teams projected to be in the early teens (philly, Char, Lac, Den) not one of them needs a center either so I think its probably doubtful that Vuc would interest a team in that range. Moving in the 20 range is an option though. There just isnt many prospects at all that interest me outside the top 15 range. Last year was a far deeper draft outside of the lottery compared to this one.

But Washington at 15 and Phoenix at 16 could use a center. Philly and possibly LAC could use a SG. Call up Wiz and Suns about this trade with Vuc involved and call up Philly and LAC with this trade with Fournier involved.

[nicnac215]

Trade up for DiVincenzo

I am not sure we need to trade up for him but yes I would like him.

[Nemesis21]

Trade up for DiVincenzo

I am not sure we need to trade up for him but yes I would like him.

He's projected to go mid to late 20s, so yes we would have to trade back up to the bottom of round 1. Although this is based on mocks, so potentially we could get him with our early 2nd round pick.

[Nyce_1]

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[J_Magic]

Target Shooters at both positions.

I know everyone seems to think players Magically end up learning how to shoot...but it doesn't work that way.

The modern game needs true shooters. We've had so many crap 2nd round draft selections and sent them to the D-League as career suicide.

I hope Grayson Allen is available, but he'll probably be way gone.

Not interested in "athletes" that can't shoot.
I'm okay on no-named International Prospects though.

[zaymon]

Target Shooters at both positions.

I know everyone seems to think players Magically end up learning how to shoot...but it doesn't work that way.

The modern game needs true shooters. We've had so many crap 2nd round draft selections and sent them to the D-League as career suicide.

I hope Grayson Allen is available, but he'll probably be way gone.

Not interested in "athletes" that can't shoot.
I'm okay on no-named International Prospects though.

I fully agree. We need smart shooter, who can pass the ball on the move. Understanding of the game more important than being more athletic ( to some degree of course). Strength is very important too, many players projected to be below average defenders ended up good becouse they were strong.
A lot of such players in this draft someone will fall to 35 or we will move to get them. I am most excited about DiVincenzo, Allen and Huerter atm.