Draft Thread 5.0: Needing a Pat Williams Miracle

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Trae Young took some flack for being on the skinny side in college, but according to ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski, he’s put on 11 pounds of muscle.

Looks like he really has put in work.. will be very interesting to see his combine #'s

I doubt he’s going to the combine, for top prospects the combine is just a thing of the past

He's been invited and accepted his invitation for the combine per shams and Full List is below in Alphabetical order.

DeAndre Ayton, Luka Doncic, Dzanan Musa, and Robert Williams are among the top prospects who declined invites to the combine.

Rawle Alkins
Grayson Allen
Kostas Antetokounmpo
Udoka Azubuike
Marvin Bagley III
Mohamed Bamba
Jaylen Barford
Keita Bates-Diop
Tyus Battle
Brian Bowen II
Mikal Bridges
Miles Bridges
Bruce Brown Jr.
Troy Brown Jr.
Jalen Brunson
Tony Carr
Jevon Carter
Wendell Carter
Hamidou Diallo
Donte DiVincenzo
Trevon Duval
Jacob Evans
Bruno Fernando
Melvin Frazier Jr.
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Devonte Graham
Devon Hall
Jaylen Hands
Kevin Hervey
Aaron Holiday
Kevin Huerter
Chandler Hutchison
Jaren Jackson Jr.
Justin Jackson
Alize Johnson
George King
Kevin Knox
Sagaba Konate
Caleb Martin
Cody Martin
Yante Maten
Brandon McCoy
De’Anthony Melton
Chimezie Metu
Shake Milton
Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk
Malik Newman
Josh Okogie
Jontay Porter
Michael Porter Jr.
Billy Preston
Jerome Robinson
Mitchell Robinson
Collin Sexton
Landry Shamet
Anfernee Simons
Zhaire Smith
Omari Spellman
Khyri Thomas
Gary Trent Jr.
Allonzo Trier
Jarred Vanderbilt
Moritz Wagner
Lonnie Walker
PJ Washington
Austin Wiley
Kris Wilkes
Kenrich Williams
Trae Young

[Nemesis21]

Our draft pick # since Dwight left,


2012 #19 - Andrew Nicholson

2013 #2 - Victor Oladipo *traded with 2016 #11 Sabonis for Ibaka

2014 # 4 & #10 - Gordon and Payton

2015 #5 - Hezonja

2016 #11 - Sabonis * traded with Oladipo for Ibaka

2017 #6 - Isaac

2018 #6 - ??

[yoyojw17]

Looks like he really has put in work.. will be very interesting to see his combine #'s

I doubt he’s going to the combine, for top prospects the combine is just a thing of the past

He's been invited and accepted his invitation for the combine per shams and Full List is below in Alphabetical order.

DeAndre Ayton, Luka Doncic, Dzanan Musa, and Robert Williams are among the top prospects who declined invites to the combine.

Rawle Alkins
Grayson Allen
Kostas Antetokounmpo
Udoka Azubuike
Marvin Bagley III
Mohamed Bamba
Jaylen Barford
Keita Bates-Diop
Tyus Battle
Brian Bowen II
Mikal Bridges
Miles Bridges
Bruce Brown Jr.
Troy Brown Jr.
Jalen Brunson
Tony Carr
Jevon Carter
Wendell Carter
Hamidou Diallo
Donte DiVincenzo
Trevon Duval
Jacob Evans
Bruno Fernando
Melvin Frazier Jr.
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Devonte Graham
Devon Hall
Jaylen Hands
Kevin Hervey
Aaron Holiday
Kevin Huerter
Chandler Hutchison
Jaren Jackson Jr.
Justin Jackson
Alize Johnson
George King
Kevin Knox
Sagaba Konate
Caleb Martin
Cody Martin
Yante Maten
Brandon McCoy
De’Anthony Melton
Chimezie Metu
Shake Milton
Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk
Malik Newman
Josh Okogie
Jontay Porter
Michael Porter Jr.
Billy Preston
Jerome Robinson
Mitchell Robinson
Collin Sexton
Landry Shamet
Anfernee Simons
Zhaire Smith
Omari Spellman
Khyri Thomas
Gary Trent Jr.
Allonzo Trier
Jarred Vanderbilt
Moritz Wagner
Lonnie Walker
PJ Washington
Austin Wiley
Kris Wilkes
Kenrich Williams
Trae Young

Awesome... so everyone of interest to us will be there!!

[rcklsscognition]

Pre-Combine Picks:

6. Trae Young
35. Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk
41. Brandon McCoy or Caleb Martin depending on what we do with our centers.

[rcklsscognition]

Our draft pick # since Dwight left,


2012 #19 - Andrew Nicholson

2013 #2 - Victor Oladipo *traded with 2016 #11 Sabonis for Ibaka

2014 # 4 & #10 - Gordon and Payton

2015 #5 - Hezonja

2016 #11 - Sabonis * traded with Oladipo for Ibaka

2017 #6 - Isaac

2018 #6 - ??

Don't fret, we can resign Payton this summer when the Suns just let him walk.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Pre-Combine Picks:

6. Trae Young
35. Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk
41. Brandon McCoy or Caleb Martin depending on what we do with our centers.

Pretty much same thought with me.

6. Trae Young
35. Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk/ Grayson Allen/ Melvin Frazier
41 Josh Okogie/ Bonga/McCoy/ Martin

[OrlChamps2030]

Did anyone see the suns twitter name

[OrlandO]

I don't know if Young is the pick for us, but let's say we get him, is Fournier a good backcourt mate to pair with him? When I see Trae, like everyone, I can't help but see Curry; and what helped make Curry great? A 3 & D SG, with high IQ, to space the floor and to defend the tougher opposing guard. I don't think Fournier is that guy. I could be wrong.

I started this post to ask what other guards in the draft could we make a run at to pair with Young (and Isaac), but then I thought about someone we often forget on our roster. Terrence Ross. Ross' game is a perfect compliment for Young. 3s, defense, good court vision and passing, and...size. Unfortunately he's 8 yrs older. Is there a player like TRoss in the draft? Would we want to draft him or just try to stick with what we have for the next few yrs and look for a new guard down the road? Am I underrating Fournier's complimentary game to Young's and Evan is actually the better fit?

If we do take Trae Young, I think our young core (Young, Isaac, Gordon, Birch (Yep, don't @me), Fournier, Mario (hopefully)) is still missing that alpha. A fiesty player to round out the group. Someone to talk ****, hustle, and be the pulse of the team; someone to talk **** to our own guys and hold them accountable, when needed. Who are some guys in this draft that carry that trait?

Marcus Smart would be good next to Young. Fournier sixth man.

[magicfan4life88]

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with the 6th pick of the NBA draft the Orlando Magic select...

so many are against him but he might be the perfect pick for us, many don't realize his team overachieved because of him, his team was trash but still made it to the tourny and its because of Trae Young, now I'm not 100% on the Trae Young Bandwagon but I wouldnt be upset.

I'd love an MPJ and if he slips to us I think we should take him, look at Embiid, drafted high even though he was injured, it was also a back injury, MPJ might not make it to us but I would be ecstatic if we got him, obviously we have to hope that we do our homework on his injury.
Collin Sexton is another player I'd love as he has a motor unlike most players in this draft
Mikal Bridges is someone I'm high on, He may be the next K.Leonard, he may just be the next NBA ready player that looks to have a bright future and be his own player

[Blue_and_Whte]

It’s frustrating to see all these teams getting a top 3 pick while we sit and remain a festering cesspool of mediocrity. The Suns, Kings, and Hawks just accelerated passed us in the rebuild process. We’re officially a treadmill team. We need to blow it up

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[Blue_and_Whte]

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with the 6th pick of the NBA draft the Orlando Magic select...

so many are against him but he might be the perfect pick for us, many don't realize his team overachieved because of him, his team was trash but still made it to the tourny and its because of Trae Young, now I'm not 100% on the Trae Young Bandwagon but I wouldnt be upset.

I'd love an MPJ and if he slips to us I think we should take him, look at Embiid, drafted high even though he was injured, it was also a back injury, MPJ might not make it to us but I would be ecstatic if we got him, obviously we have to hope that we do our homework on his injury.
Collin Sexton is another player I'd love as he has a motor unlike most players in this draft
Mikal Bridges is someone I'm high on, He may be the next K.Leonard, he may just be the next NBA ready player that looks to have a bright future and be his own player

At 6 I’d take a flier on Trae Young. He could become the scoring threat this pathetic excuse for a team needs. And what’s the worst that could happen? He busts? And what?


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[drsd]

Would you rather have:

DSj/Bamba or Young/Isaac

Young/Isaac

And it is not close. Isaac has more upside than Bamba and Young has more upside than Smith.


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[swarlesbarkley]

At 6 I’d take a flier on Trae Young. He could become the scoring threat this pathetic excuse for a team needs. And what’s the worst that could happen? He busts? And what?


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Exactly. If he busts he's still a spark plug off the bench like Nate Robinson. And we get a high draft pick again next year. Kind of a win-win.

[swarlesbarkley]

Awesome... so everyone of interest to us will be there!!

I actually hope Young doesn't do the combine because I think he'll move up the board and out of reach for us.

[Nemesis21]

If we draft Young, what kind of player do you all think we be a good back court pairing with him? A 3 & D type SG, a scoring SG, a mix of both?

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Awesome... so everyone of interest to us will be there!!

I actually hope Young doesn't do the combine because I think he'll move up the board and out of reach for us.

Other than Atlanta at 3 I don't see a team that would have him BPA and Atlanta would be dumb to take Trae at 3. With that I don't see Trae getting past the Bulls at 7 or Cavs at 8. So a team wanting him would need to move up at get into 3/4/5 spots as I feel Trae's likely spot is 6-8.

[axl_c_cool]

If we draft Young, what kind of player do you all think we be a good back court pairing with him? A 3 & D type SG, a scoring SG, a mix of both?

3 and D, ironically Bridges would be a great backcourt partner for him in the draft. If we draft Young and trade Fournier Ross would also be a really good partner for him

[magicfan4life88]

We do still have Jonathan Simmons guys, lol, he would be good with Trae, no?

[MartinsIzAfraud]

If we draft Young, what kind of player do you all think we be a good back court pairing with him? A 3 & D type SG, a scoring SG, a mix of both?

Immediately would look at Marcus Smart as a very very solid option... maybe a guy like KCP who is a UFA but I see him being out of our range due to the $$ he will command. Avery Bradley be another guy of interest but like KCP he probably will get a fair $$ amount.

[magicfan4life88]

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not many high on Sexton but this game made me fall in love with him, no homo, this is why I wouldnt mind us picking him at 6