Isaac - will he be like Giannis or Bender?

[J_Magic]

I so badly want Isaac to succeed with the Magic. He seems like a genuine great kid and a willing learner. \

However, personality aside...can he develop into a No 1 option for us? Does he have the motivation to be "the man"?

His max potential I think is a Defensive Player of the Year candidate that can put up 20ppg. I just don't see him as a scorer to put up volume numbers.

God we need Trae Young to open up his game.

[MagicFan101]

Isaac will be more like Isaac and Young could very well be a HUGE bust.

[pinoynurse]

work ethic wise i have no concerns. my main worry is that he doesnt have that "alpha" mentality in him or the confidence. He too easily volunteers to be the 2nd or 3rd option

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Doesn’t have the ball skills Giannis has or the rim running game either. Isaac shouldn’t worry about being Giannis but worry about staying healthy and improving year after year.

[PhilBlackson]

Sorry to chime in but I love Isaac's potential and don't think either player is a good comparison.

Isaac has much better shooting touch than Giannis but nowhere near the facilitator, rim runner and doesn't push the ball up like GA does. He actually kinda resembled a taller Ingram to me in college and also had that kinda unassertive nature about him. I'm not sure there's a great comparison for him and I don't think he resembles what BI has become but I love his combination of length, quickness and shooting touch.

I can't picture him busting like Bender because his defense and shooting will have a place in the league one way or the other but he really (like Ingram had to) has to learn to assert himself more because he has all the physical tools and skills to be one of the better modern PFs in the league. I said since the draft and still to this day that I believe he can turn out to be a top 5 pick in this past draft and even be the steal in the lottery (although I guess Mitchell would make that untrue now lol). I think the kid has sooo much potential, he just needs to want to be great.

[PrimeThyme]

Both are lazy comparisons. In terms of skillset, he is much more like KG than anything. Just a lot more raw than KG was coming out of college/high school. Dpoy potential, but will probably be best suited as a 3rd option on a championship caliber team. I do think getting Trae will really help in his development offensively quite significantly. He would help everyone on this team especially Isaac and AG.

[pepe1991]

Bender is actually younger than Isaac, shoots nice 36,6% for 3 but has no post moves and is flat out scared to finish in traffic.

Giannis at age of 20 averaged 13 ppg ,7 rpg and 2 apg having no jumpshot, just being total "freak" out there.

Isaac should focus on playing inside and for now just learn how to make corner and wide open 3s. And cut down long 2s.
Having some ballhandling skills could open game for him.

[RickB-Orlando]

I so badly want Isaac to succeed with the Magic. He seems like a genuine great kid and a willing learner. \

However, personality aside...can he develop into a No 1 option for us? Does he have the motivation to be "the man"?

His max potential I think is a Defensive Player of the Year candidate that can put up 20ppg. I just don't see him as a scorer to put up volume numbers.

God we need Trae Young to open up his game.

So, you think he has the potential to put up 20 PPG (as DPOY) and yet isn't what you consider to be a "volume scorer?"

Do you realize the last time we had a legitimate 20PPG scorer? D12 in 2011-12.

So basically, you think Isaac has the potential to become the next Dwight Howard.

[Knightro]

I don’t want this to come off like a knock on Isaac because I really love his potential in a lot of areas.

That said…

He really didn’t show anything at Florida State, the summer league, or in 30 games in the NBA that would make me believe that he is anywhere close to being a big time offensive player. Right now, he doesn’t have the ball handling chops, nor does he have the aggressive mentality to really thrive on the offensive end of the floor. That could change, but right now it isn't there.

And that’s OK!

What I do see is essentially a Draymond Green caliber player without the playmaking skills. A super high end glue guy.

I think Issac will not only be able to hold up in switches 1 through 5, but thrive in those spots. I think he has the size, quickness and mentality to be a tremendous defensive talent. If he stays healthy, I could see him having a 10 stocks (steals + blocks) game as early as next season.

I also think he’ll be able to be a quality rebounder which is important for any Clifford team. I’m very optimistic he’ll be able to make open threes at a nice clip and stretch the floor offensively.

But I just don’t see a consistent bucket getter. At least not anytime soon.

I really don't like statistical guesses, but I think Isaac is a 10-15 PPG, 7-10 RPG, over 2 SPG, over 2 BPG with great individual and team defense guy. If he can do all that while shooting over 35% from three and 75% from the FT line, no one should be unhappy.

[tiderulz]

I so badly want Isaac to succeed with the Magic. He seems like a genuine great kid and a willing learner. \

However, personality aside...can he develop into a No 1 option for us? Does he have the motivation to be "the man"?

His max potential I think is a Defensive Player of the Year candidate that can put up 20ppg. I just don't see him as a scorer to put up volume numbers.

God we need Trae Young to open up his game.

he wont be a #1 option, but that isnt his game. He is already a better defender than Bender.

[NickAnderson]

12ppg dpoy max


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[PennytoShaq]

OP's comparisons are very bad, but everyone already touched on that.

I think Isaac can score 18 a game one day. That sounds a little crazy now, but the guy plays such an efficient game on offense that to me, it is all about him just learning the NBA game at this point.

He showed flashes of the ability to put up 10 points so quickly that you don't even realize it. Isaac is the type of guy to nail two 3s in succession, get a putback dunk and then knock down a pull-up 10 footer all in a 5 minute span. So the more he hones that ability, I think the more you will see him start putting up some 24-26 point games and then some 12-14 pointers as he yo-yo's back and forth for a bit before it steadies out in year 3.

[J_Magic]

Sorry guys, I was referring to Johnathan Bender who played on the Pacers. Not Dragan Bender. Swear this was not a troll attempt.

[Nemesis21]

Sorry guys, I was referring to Johnathan Bender who played on the Pacers. Not Dragan Bender. Swear this was not a troll attempt.

I knew which Bender you were talking about. Doesn't matter, both Bender's are busts. And both would be a lazy comparison by you.

[J_Magic]

What do you think then?

Until Isaac shows the desire and a ruthless streak...he risks become like other talented long players that wasted their gift.

If he continues to pick up injuries, he will never reach his potential. I want him to become like KG...but I know I am dreaming. I hope he proves me wrong and we see a huge step up in his 2nd season.

He will need to play 82 games. Hopefully he can get to 15ppg and 10rebounds. I honestly think his had a wider skill set than Gordon too.

[Furinkazan]

he will be like Isaac
talent is there I fear lack of alpha mentality though but still he will turn out fine

[Knightro]

I think with his defensive prowess, Isaac really doesn't even need to be a dominant offensive player to still be very effective in the current NBA landscape.

If I was him, I'd spend the majority of my time A. working on getting stronger and B. on making catch and shoot threes. If he can develop his spot up ability behind the arc to around 36-40%, he will be a super valuable NBA player.

[PennytoShaq]

I think with his defensive prowess, Isaac really doesn't even need to be a dominant offensive player to still be very effective in the current NBA landscape.

If I was him, I'd spend the majority of my time A. working on getting stronger and B. on making catch and shoot threes. If he can develop his spot up ability behind the arc to around 36-40%, he will be a super valuable NBA player.

Yes. And it looks like he has been hitting the gym hard. Reports are that he has been working on his handles, 3 ball and jump shot. These are all great things to be reading about in June.

One of the things I enjoy most about the NBA is seeing young and talented guys improve after a summer. I remember being blown away at how much better Dwight would get after each summer. I think Isaac may really show some serious improvement, maybe not on D12's level, but it should be obvious to the eye. He just needs to stay healthy.

[Edrock]

7 foot ak-47

[pepe1991]

Sorry guys, I was referring to Johnathan Bender who played on the Pacers. Not Dragan Bender. Swear this was not a troll attempt.

I knew which Bender you were talking about. Doesn't matter, both Bender's are busts. And both would be a lazy comparison by you.

Can you be bust at 20 ? Don't think so.
Guy is younger than Isaac, just like Isaac spent most of rookie year hurt. His problem is his complete lack of will to score , guy passes way too much and sucks in paint.

Still too early to tell , had few good games this year. Can shoot from range ,needs to figure out that once he attacks the rim nobody will be there to stop him. He was by far most talented kid of his age in Europe , probably needs better coaching. I mean, i feel sorry for every player that Watson ever coached, that guy literally said that he wanted Booker to shoot every jumper he could.

If he sucks next year, i'll be ok with calling him bust.

Isaac, for sake of this team NEEDs to be better than Dragan was in his second year or Jonathan ever was