tiderulz wrote: pepe1991 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:So those 3 count for almost -10 pts a game in a loss, yeah that will hurt a W-L record.
and wait, you are calling out White's summer league play? when you cite how bad the SL players are if anyone tries to find the good points of our own players? a bit hypocritical dont you think?
Guy has been phenomenal in G league and SL so far. He had almost no chance to prove himself anywhere elese, as i pointed that he was 4th PG on Spurs, playoff roster .
BUT you can't tell me that this numbers are not impressive:
26-7-6 vs Grizzlies
21- 9a vs Hawks
22 -6 a vs Jazz
and by eye test he is always best player on the floor, being in control of his moves and of whole offense.
If somebody at PG had that type of numbers with Magic, this board would draw Magic Johnson or God knows who else type comparisons ,but since it's on other team nobody cares. IMO , from eye test and some stats, i think he has higher chance becomming nba player ,at least rotation one than Iwundu .
Is it fair to judge him in G league / SL compared to Iwundu's nba performance? Probably not, but Iwundu has been bad whenever he played , in G league last year he averaged 15 ppg on 40% FG and 12% for 3, this year in SL 30% FG , 0% for 3 on 8 ppg.
Magic " big 3" , sure, they have huge usage rate, their inability to play well on night to night bases swings whole team record to negative side.
its just funny that for some players, you want to downplay SL games and for White you want to highlight his SL play. And as a 2nd year player, you yourself said he should dominate SL play and that it isnt necessarily an indicator of regular NBA play. maybe the reason nobody cares is how often you criticize any SL play.
you cant have it both ways.
But you can have it both ways since SL has been around for just few years and for now results are mixed bag.
MVPs of this competition:
2012 co winners : Dame Lillard and ...Josh Selby ( plays in Korea )
2013- Jonas Valenchunas
2014- Glen Rice ( plays in Puerto Rico )
2015 -Tyus Jones ( still backup )
2016- Lonzo Ball
So if you are great there you can end up as one of best players on your position ( Lillard ) or you can end up in Puerto Rico or Korea
And yes, it's still expected that second year players deliver, but even when they do it should be taken with grain of salt, i don't expect White to become allstar or superstar and i never said he will, i said that i know it's hindsight but he today looks like better option than Iwundu. I don't even get how that's arguable, only difference is that one got actual NBA playing time because he was on tanking team, where other didn't because he was on playoff team, in every other competition White outplayed him.