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Nemesis21 wrote:

tiderulz wrote:

Nemesis21 wrote:

Umm go to the FA thread. Josh Robbins and others confirmed, the Magic never offered him.

then i have to imagine he was asking more than we were prepared to offer. He may have told them he wanted the full MLE, which if healthy he should easily command.

This makes no sense. He might have asked the Magic for more... But signs with Denver today for 2 mill.

tiderulz wrote:

Rocketsbaby wrote:

zuppafly wrote:So, you're saying Grant is not horrible?

Rockets fan here. Sorry to be bearer of bad news but Grant is horrible. I mean probably significantly worse than you can imagine. He's not better than Briscoe

do you follow Notre Dame? he didnt play for Houston so wondering how many of his games you watched. not saying you are right or wrong, just wondering. He put dished out almost 5 apg in 22 mpg last year. if he can do that in a backup role while playing a defense, I will take that from a backup PG. we have other players on the 2nd unit that are not afraid to shoot the ball, so he wont really be relied on to score, just to pass the ball.

Rocketsbaby wrote:

tiderulz wrote:

Rocketsbaby wrote:

Rockets fan here. Sorry to be bearer of bad news but Grant is horrible. I mean probably significantly worse than you can imagine. He's not better than Briscoe

do you follow Notre Dame? he didnt play for Houston so wondering how many of his games you watched. not saying you are right or wrong, just wondering. He put dished out almost 5 apg in 22 mpg last year. if he can do that in a backup role while playing a defense, I will take that from a backup PG. we have other players on the 2nd unit that are not afraid to shoot the ball, so he wont really be relied on to score, just to pass the ball.

Actually yeah he was great at Notre Dame. It just hasn't translated at all... his numbers are really, really bad. He just doesn't have the skillset to play PG in this league. Maybe he pulls the whole Chauncey Billups total career turnaround but that's quite the longshot...

My "Rockets fan here" was because the OP said Bulls fans weren't able to give unbiased opinions...

Rocketsbaby wrote:Actually yeah he was great at Notre Dame. It just hasn't translated at all... his numbers are really, really bad. He just doesn't have the skillset to play PG in this league. Maybe he pulls the whole Chauncey Billups total career turnaround but that's quite the longshot...

drsd wrote:Watched one highlight clip to see what I thought of his game, and two things caught my attention.

1) His 3-ball is with a high and fast release. It looks beautiful.

2) He has this fake jump-shot pass that looks super effective to pull defenses out to free up the Center.

Watch on YouTube

yoyojw17 wrote:

drsd wrote:Watched one highlight clip to see what I thought of his game, and two things caught my attention.

1) His 3-ball is with a high and fast release. It looks beautiful.

2) He has this fake jump-shot pass that looks super effective to pull defenses out to free up the Center.

Watch on YouTube

his size definitely helps with making those passes as well. Hope we haven't seen the best of him and the best is soon to come. Would love another random pickup that turns into a quality player... by giving them another opportunity to succeed in a better environment.

Jerian Grant looks like a perfect fit for the Orlando Magic and the team they are building. But he has to take advantage of his own versatility.

Instincts wrote:

zuppafly wrote:

npiper17 wrote:
No, I’m saying that those who rush off to the trading team’s forum and come back 10 mins later declaring x, y or z about a player should do more research. Fans aren’t always the best source of info.

For example, if the Magic traded Vuc, there’s a number of posters on here who would basically say to the acquiring team’s fans that’s he’s terrible. He isn’t and has value in certain areas, on certain teams in certain roles but you’re not going to hear that from all fans.

It's one thing to assume what a few fans talk about a player, it's another thing to see that there's isn't a single fan saying he'll be sorry for losing him.

Grant is no middle-terms player. You don't have only a few fans being extreme about his play.
If we were to trade Fournier we'd also have people around here going to his new team forums saying he's horrible. Others would say he was good for us. Some would say he was our best guy. That's what a fanbase is...
This is different. I only recall watching a few games of him and I recall thinking the guy was bad, but that's admittedly a small sample.
The fact that Bulls fans, every single one I've read so far, are laughing and celebrating that didn't have to pay to get rid of him is the red flag.

I liked what I saw from Grant last year. He stood out as a solid young player in the limited games I saw.

Front office obviously would like to see more of Grant.

Blue_and_Whte wrote:To me Grant is in that CJ Watson / Chris DuDu tier so I'm tempering my expectations a little bit. He could be solid, or he could be miserably bad.

zuppafly wrote:

Instincts wrote:

zuppafly wrote:It's one thing to assume what a few fans talk about a player, it's another thing to see that there's isn't a single fan saying he'll be sorry for losing him.

Grant is no middle-terms player. You don't have only a few fans being extreme about his play.
If we were to trade Fournier we'd also have people around here going to his new team forums saying he's horrible. Others would say he was good for us. Some would say he was our best guy. That's what a fanbase is...
This is different. I only recall watching a few games of him and I recall thinking the guy was bad, but that's admittedly a small sample.
The fact that Bulls fans, every single one I've read so far, are laughing and celebrating that didn't have to pay to get rid of him is the red flag.

I liked what I saw from Grant last year. He stood out as a solid young player in the limited games I saw.

Front office obviously would like to see more of Grant.

Well, sorry mods, but this looks like a worthy bump.
Lessons we should all learn: we don't know more about players from other teams than the fans from those other teams.

pepe1991 wrote:To be fair, most people from start thought he is garbage.
When you are backup for Cameron Payne, you can't be good

drsd wrote:

pepe1991 wrote:To be fair, most people from start thought he is garbage.
When you are backup for Cameron Payne, you can't be good

To be disgustingly reflective of my personal comments, at the time, I thought this was all great.

Today: Grant is not an NBA-capable player. That Carter-Williams, of all players, could be found from there netherlands, Grant sucks.

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