2018-19 Roster

[JBSouthpaw]

Just looked at the roster here: https://www.nba.com/magic/roster

Have a couple questions:

1. We resigned Arron Afflalo? he is listed.
2. Troy Caupain is listed, I think he is 2 way, does that count against the 15 max? Have we used the other 2 way?

[vip3r]

Just looked at the roster here: https://www.nba.com/magic/roster

Have a couple questions:

1. We resigned Arron Afflalo? he is listed.
2. Troy Caupain is listed, I think he is 2 way, does that count against the 15 max? Have we used the other 2 way?

1. No we didn't resign him.
2. Troy Caupain and Amile Jefferson are the 2 way players, and they do not count against the 15 max.

[JBSouthpaw]

Just looked at the roster here: https://www.nba.com/magic/roster

Have a couple questions:

1. We resigned Arron Afflalo? he is listed.
2. Troy Caupain is listed, I think he is 2 way, does that count against the 15 max? Have we used the other 2 way?

1. No we didn't resign him.
2. Troy Caupain and Amile Jefferson are the 2 way players, and they do not count against the 15 max.

Thanks,
Why would AA be on the site then? the whole roster is updated with draft picks and Briscoe, Moz, Grant and Martin.

[spinedoc]

Man, that is so depressing looking at that group. If I would have started a thread here right after the draft stating that we were losing Mario and Biz and only adding Grant, Moz, Briscoe, Caupain, Martin, and Iwundu, to go along with the two second rounders we drafted, I would have been throttled in here. I would have been run off with my tail between my legs. No one can be happy with that so called off season. Its like it never existed for us. I think its the worst in franchise history, I can't recall a worse one than that.

[fendilim]

Another way of doing trust the process.

[vip3r]

Thanks,
Why would AA be on the site then? the whole roster is updated with draft picks and Briscoe, Moz, Grant and Martin.

No problem. I guess somebody forgot to remove him.

[JBSouthpaw]

Man, that is so depressing looking at that group. If I would have started a thread here right after the draft stating that we were losing Mario and Biz and only adding Grant, Moz, Briscoe, Caupain, Martin, and Iwundu, to go along with the two second rounders we drafted, I would have been throttled in here. I would have been run off with my tail between my legs. No one can be happy with that so called off season. Its like it never existed for us. I think its the worst in franchise history, I can't recall a worse one than that.

I'd say we only "lost" Mario. What about Bamba?

[Nemesis21]

Man, that is so depressing looking at that group. If I would have started a thread here right after the draft stating that we were losing Mario and Biz and only adding Grant, Moz, Briscoe, Caupain, Martin, and Iwundu, to go along with the two second rounders we drafted, I would have been throttled in here. I would have been run off with my tail between my legs. No one can be happy with that so called off season. Its like it never existed for us. I think its the worst in franchise history, I can't recall a worse one than that.

Different coach, again. Different GM. Same old chit story. 2 seasons in a row I've been chit on for calling out the main culprits in this never ending rebuild. It'll be the same sorry chit next offseason. Are people ready for the truth, yet?

[PrimeThyme]

Man, that is so depressing looking at that group. If I would have started a thread here right after the draft stating that we were losing Mario and Biz and only adding Grant, Moz, Briscoe, Caupain, Martin, and Iwundu, to go along with the two second rounders we drafted, I would have been throttled in here. I would have been run off with my tail between my legs. No one can be happy with that so called off season. Its like it never existed for us. I think its the worst in franchise history, I can't recall a worse one than that.

In the Mosgov trade thread if you go back and read it alot of us (including myself) got killed for saying that our roster was likely finished for next season. Most people wanted to believe that that the trade signaled that more big shakeup trades were coming down the line but just by going off some of the quotes weltman and Clifford had in the media it was clear that the roster was pretty much finished.

It’s one of the reasons why I just don’t agree when people say this was a great offseason. Very meh overall.

[spinedoc]

Man, that is so depressing looking at that group. If I would have started a thread here right after the draft stating that we were losing Mario and Biz and only adding Grant, Moz, Briscoe, Caupain, Martin, and Iwundu, to go along with the two second rounders we drafted, I would have been throttled in here. I would have been run off with my tail between my legs. No one can be happy with that so called off season. Its like it never existed for us. I think its the worst in franchise history, I can't recall a worse one than that.

I'd say we only "lost" Mario. What about Bamba?

I mentioned starting the thread after the draft. I only referred to the second round guys because they rarely make any teams final roster anyway. I also didn't mention AG's extension. Its still the weakest in my recent memory. That's why I keep saying I can do this freaking job. Just give me 50K in unmarked bills and I'm good to go.

[spinedoc]

Didn't know where else to put this, and didn't want to start another thread. Hoopshype has the top projected 30 pg's, and wouldn't you know it, DJ is nowhere to be found. Two entries from each of Toronto, Brooklyn, and Boston, and we have the weakest rotation ever.

https://hoopshype.com/2018/07/29/nba-projections-top-30-point-guards-stephen-curry-russell-westbrook/

[drsd]

I see the depth cart going to the preseason as:

Augustin/Grant/Briscoe
Fournier/Ross/Iwundu
Isaac/Simmons/Frazier
Gordon/Martin/Birch
Vučević/Bamba/Mozgov

Most of these 15 will float between roster slots. It is a versatile, defense led group. It might be at the bottom of the league in shooting percentage, but the team looks at first glance to be fun to watch.


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[OrlandO]

Didn't know where else to put this, and didn't want to start another thread. Hoopshype has the top projected 30 pg's, and wouldn't you know it, DJ is nowhere to be found. Two entries from each of Toronto, Brooklyn, and Boston, and we have the weakest rotation ever.

https://hoopshype.com/2018/07/29/nba-projections-top-30-point-guards-stephen-curry-russell-westbrook/

It's called tanking. Not full-on hinkie tanking, but tanking nonetheless. If they could get rid of DJ they probably would. Next summer is the summer to watch... potentially 24 to 34m to spend.

[JBSouthpaw]

I see the depth cart going to the preseason as:

Augustin/Grant/Briscoe
Fournier/Ross/Iwundu
Isaac/Simmons/Frazier
Gordon/Martin/Birch
Vučević/Bamba/Mozgov

Most of these 15 will float between roster slots. It is a versatile, defense led group. It might be at the bottom of the league in shooting percentage, but the team looks at first glance to be fun to watch.
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Don't mind this, will be interested in if Ross/Simmons can play together well, with that 2nd unit, there'll be shots to take.

[spinedoc]

Didn't know where else to put this, and didn't want to start another thread. Hoopshype has the top projected 30 pg's, and wouldn't you know it, DJ is nowhere to be found. Two entries from each of Toronto, Brooklyn, and Boston, and we have the weakest rotation ever.

https://hoopshype.com/2018/07/29/nba-projections-top-30-point-guards-stephen-curry-russell-westbrook/

It's called tanking. Not full-on hinkie tanking, but tanking nonetheless.

That is one way of putting it, but I would be extremely embarrassed putting that out to the public as a gm in this league. Its insulting as a long time fan, it really pisses me off actually.

[OrlandO]

Didn't know where else to put this, and didn't want to start another thread. Hoopshype has the top projected 30 pg's, and wouldn't you know it, DJ is nowhere to be found. Two entries from each of Toronto, Brooklyn, and Boston, and we have the weakest rotation ever.

https://hoopshype.com/2018/07/29/nba-projections-top-30-point-guards-stephen-curry-russell-westbrook/

It's called tanking. Not full-on hinkie tanking, but tanking nonetheless.

That is one way of putting it, but I would be extremely embarrassed putting that out to the public as a gm in this league. Its insulting as a long time fan, it really pisses me off actually.

Well it's not their fault Hennigan left them with a flawed starting PG who couldn't even get $3 million in free agency... and an overpaid backup PG who can't be moved. If they could get rid of DJ they would. Next summer is the summer to watch... potentially 24 to 34m to spend.

[spinedoc]

It's called tanking. Not full-on hinkie tanking, but tanking nonetheless.

That is one way of putting it, but I would be extremely embarrassed putting that out to the public as a gm in this league. Its insulting as a long time fan, it really pisses me off actually.

Well it's not their fault Hennigan left them with a flawed starting PG who couldn't even get $3 million in free agency... and an overpaid backup PG who can't be moved. If they could get rid of DJ they would. Next summer is the summer to watch... potentially 24 to 34m to spend.

That is a total cop out. DJ can be moved. As much as I dislike him, he's only making around the small mle. I've seen much worse contracts dealt, so have you. I don't even mind him being a backup, but Grant and Briscoe is clearly not enough to challenge. Its probably the most important position in the sport. I just don't like anyone pissing on my back and telling me its raining. New management is responsible for this final product, period.

[OrlandO]

That is one way of putting it, but I would be extremely embarrassed putting that out to the public as a gm in this league. Its insulting as a long time fan, it really pisses me off actually.

Well it's not their fault Hennigan left them with a flawed starting PG who couldn't even get $3 million in free agency... and an overpaid backup PG who can't be moved. If they could get rid of DJ they would. Next summer is the summer to watch... potentially 24 to 34m to spend.

That is a total cop out. DJ can be moved. As much as I dislike him, he's only making around the small mle. I've seen much worse contracts dealt, so have you. I don't even mind him being a backup, but Grant and Briscoe is clearly not enough to challenge. Its probably the most important position in the sport. I just don't like anyone pissing on my back and telling me its raining.

Did you hibernate during free agency or something? There's a reason so many players took cheap 1-2 yr deals this summer. You just linked a list that says DJ is not a top 30 pg.... please tell me who would want him as a 31-32 yr old inconsistent and undersized backup PG for $14.5 million over two years in today's salary climate?

New management is responsible for this final product, period.

It's not a final product... it's still very much a work in progress. I think that is pretty obvious.

[spinedoc]

Well it's not their fault Hennigan left them with a flawed starting PG who couldn't even get $3 million in free agency... and an overpaid backup PG who can't be moved. If they could get rid of DJ they would. Next summer is the summer to watch... potentially 24 to 34m to spend.

That is a total cop out. DJ can be moved. As much as I dislike him, he's only making around the small mle. I've seen much worse contracts dealt, so have you. I don't even mind him being a backup, but Grant and Briscoe is clearly not enough to challenge. Its probably the most important position in the sport. I just don't like anyone pissing on my back and telling me its raining.

Did you hibernate during free agency or something? There's a reason so many players took cheap 1-2 yr deals this summer. You just linked a list that says DJ is not a top 30 pg.... please tell me who would want him as a 31-32 yr old inconsistent and undersized backup PG for $14.5 million over two years in today's salary climate?

New management is responsible for this final product, period.

It's not a final product... it's still very much a work in progress. I think that is pretty obvious.

Hibernate? No. Put in a coma? Yes. You have to walk and chew gum at the same time. Of course we aren't done yet, but there are long range plans and short. DJ, Grant, and Briscoe are not acceptible in the short run. You need to at least have bridge players if you can't get a final piece in that position. Your description of DJ says it all, and that is our projected starter for this year. Hmm, someone might still want to sell season tickets while we are on this marathon rebuild. Even though we both don't think much of him, DJ only makes 7.5. Mario just got a one year deal at 6.5, and we let him walk. Exum got 11M and hasn't done squat yet. Trust me, if management wanted to move DJ, they could. Instead, we get glowing remarks on how he's the guy, and glad to have someone that talented. It makes me worried who is evaluating talent. To not have a pg in the top 30, remember that is how many teams are in the league. Three teams have a backup better than us, and you would probably get an argument that there are even more from this crowd. Again, its not acceptable for a professional basketball team. If we want to tank, hell lets just play four players. Sorry bro, its weak.

[Rayshard7]

12 out of the 17 players including 2 way are 25 or younger....we are a young team and I can see us landing a top 5 pick plus our 2nd and BKN 2nd. Next year our roster will be all youth with upside.

RJ Barrett, Aaron Gordon, Jonathan Isaac and Mo Bamba would be an amazing core.