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With Amile Jefferson signing a deal, it looks the Magic is at the end of their roster development.

Considering these players, what do you see as the depth chart, the retired 2-way players (can be above 15-man roster).

In alphabetic order with minimum contract stated:
DJ Augustin on a 2-year deal
Mohamed Bamba on a 4-year deal *
Isaiah Briscoe on a 1-year deal *
Khem Birch on a 1-year deal
Evan Fournier on a 3-year deal
Melvin Frazier on a 2-year deal *
Aaron Gordon on a 4-year deal
Jerian Grant on a 1-year deal *
Jonathan Isaac on a 3-year deal *
Wesley Iwundu on a 1-year deal
Jarell Martin on a 1-year deal
Timofey Mozgov on a 2-year deal
Terrence Ross on a 1-year deal
Jonathon Simmons on a 2-year deal
Nikola Vučević on a 1-year deal

Troy Caupain - Two way
Amile Jefferson - Two way
Braian Angola-Rodas - exhibit 10

* = Orlando has rights to extend



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For me the opening night depth chart is:
Augustin/Grant/Briscoe
Fournier/Ross/Iwundu
Isaac/Simmons/Frazier
Gordon/Martin/Birch
Vučević/Bamba/Mozgov

Caupain retained on a two way, and Jefferson and Angola-Rodas battle it our for the last two-way, where I project Angola-Rodas to be waived and signed by Lakeland, leaving Jefferson as the 17th Magician.

Birch is not a PF

drsd wrote:With Amile Jefferson signing a deal, it looks the Magic is at the end of their roster development.

Considering these players, what do you see as the depth chart, the retired 2-way players (can be above 15-man roster).

In alphabetic order with minimum contract stated:
DJ Augustin on a 2-year deal
Mohamed Bamba on a 4-year deal *
Isaiah Briscoe on a 1-year deal *
Khem Birch on a 1-year deal
Evan Fournier on a 3-year deal
Melvin Frazier on a 2-year deal *
Aaron Gordon on a 4-year deal
Jerian Grant on a 1-year deal *
Jonathan Isaac on a 3-year deal *
Wesley Iwundu on a 1-year deal
Jarell Martin on a 1-year deal
Timofey Mozgov on a 2-year deal
Terrence Ross on a 1-year deal
Jonathon Simmons on a 2-year deal
Nikola Vučević on a 1-year deal

Troy Caupain - Two way
Amile Jefferson - Two way
Braian Angola-Rodas - exhibit 10

* = Orlando has rights to extend



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For me the opening night depth chart is:
Augustin/Grant/Briscoe
Fournier/Ross/Iwundu
Isaac/Simmons/Frazier
Gordon/Martin/Birch
Vučević/Bamba/Mozgov

Caupain retained on a two way, and Jefferson and Angola-Rodas battle it our for the last two-way, where I project Angola-Rodas to be waived and signed by Lakeland, leaving Jefferson as the 17th Magician.

idk If they play Isaac at the 3 or 4 but I generally agree with your depth chart except that Birch will be slotted in at center while Mozgov doesn't see the light of day.

Depth chart:
Augustin/Grant/Briscoe
Fournier/Ross/Iwundu
Isaac/Simmons/Frazier
Gordon/Martin
Vucevic/Bamba/Birch/Mozgov

Rotation:
PG - Augustin 30/Grant 18
SG - Fournier 16/Ross 22/Simmons 10
SF - Isaac 12/Simmons 16/Fournier 16/Gordon 4
PF - Gordon 32/Isaac 16
C - Vucevic 30/Bamba 18

NEM wrote:Depth chart:
Augustin/Grant/Briscoe
Fournier/Ross/Iwundu
Isaac/Simmons/Frazier
Gordon/Martin
Vucevic/Bamba/Birch/Mozgov

Rotation:
PG - Augustin 30/Grant 18
SG - Fournier 16/Ross 22/Simmons 10
SF - Isaac 12/Simmons 16/Fournier 16/Gordon 4
PF - Gordon 32/Isaac 16
C - Vucevic 30/Bamba 18

Martin WILL get minutes at PF.

Depth chart:
Augustin/Grant/Briscoe
Fournier/Ross/Iwundu
Isaac/Simmons/Frazier
Gordon/Martin
Vucevic/Bamba/Birch/Mozgov

Rotation:
PG - Augustin 28/Grant 14 / Briscoe 6
SG - Fournier 26/Ross 22
SF - Isaac 20/Simmons 22/Gordon 6
PF - Gordon 26/Martin/16/ Isaac 6
C - Vucevic 25/Bamba 18/Birch 5

Rotation (assuming perfect health)

PG Augustine 25 min Grant 20 min Briscoe 3 min
SG Fournier 30 min Ross 10 min Simmons 8 min Frazier DNP. Iwundu DNP
SF Ross 15 min Isaac 10 min Simmons 10 min Gordon 8 min Fournier 5 min
PF. Gordon 25 min Isaac 15 min Martin 8 min
C Vuc 25 min Bamba 20 min Issac 3 min Birch DNP Moz DNP

Lakeland: Jackson, Caupain, other 2 guys

So total minutes
Fournier 35
Gordon 33
Isaac 28
Vuc 25
Ross 25
Augustine 25
Bamba 20
Grant 20
Simmons 18
Martin 8
Briscoe 3

11 man rotation (9 core)

Birch, Moz, Frazier and Iwundu only play in blowouts or because of injury to core rotation

Augustine / Grant / Briscoe
Fournier / Ross / Simmons
Isaac / Ross / Simmons
Gordon / Isaac / Martin
Vuc / Bamba / Birch

NickAnderson wrote:Birch is not a PF

As a backup he can play either position.

OrlandO wrote:

NickAnderson wrote:Birch is not a PF

As a backup he can play either position.

I would easily predict Birch for 3rd string minutes at both front-court positions. Indeed he might log 60 games by being able to split his time.

Birch has a contract year and he need time on the court to develop his next contract.

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Blue_and_Whte wrote: ... while Mozgov doesn't see the light of day.

If all front-court players are healthy all year long, will Mozgov log one-minute of playing time?

I am sceptic.

His role is to train Bamba on the practice court. And to play tough again Vučević on the practice court. If the Magic is winning games, that is a sign that Mozgov is not logging minutes.




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drsd wrote:

Blue_and_Whte wrote: ... while Mozgov doesn't see the light of day.

If all front-court players are healthy all year long, will Mozgov log one-minute of playing time?

I am sceptic.

His role is to train Bamba on the practice court. And to play tough again Vučević on the practice court. If the Magic is winning games, that is a sign that Mozgov is not logging minutes.


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Or in other words... he doesn’t see the light of day!

NickAnderson wrote:Birch is not a PF

He played about 50/50 between PF and C last year. We'll see if Clifford uses him the same way.

YosemiteSam wrote:Rotation (assuming perfect health)

PG Augustine 25 min Grant 20 min Briscoe 3 min
SG Fournier 30 min Ross 10 min Simmons 8 min Frazier DNP. Iwundu DNP
SF Ross 15 min Isaac 10 min Simmons 10 min Gordon 8 min Fournier 5 min
PF. Gordon 25 min Isaac 15 min Martin 8 min
C Vuc 25 min Bamba 20 min Issac 3 min Birch DNP Moz DNP

Lakeland: Jackson, Caupain, other 2 guys

So total minutes
Fournier 35
Gordon 33
Isaac 28
Vuc 25
Ross 25
Augustine 25
Bamba 20
Grant 20
Simmons 18
Martin 8
Briscoe 3

11 man rotation (9 core)

Birch, Moz, Frazier and Iwundu only play in blowouts or because of injury to core rotation

I will add though, Isaac will be starting after deadline and think Simmons see's more of the backup SG minutes then Ross.

A lot of you guys are very optimistic about Isaac starting from opening day. I personally see Ross as the starting 3 to start off. I hope you guys are right though.

Me personally I would start

Briscoe
Fournier
Gordon
Isaac
Bamba

nymets1 wrote:Me personally I would start

Briscoe
Fournier
Gordon
Isaac
Bamba

You’re wrong.

MagicFan101 wrote:

nymets1 wrote:Me personally I would start

Briscoe
Fournier
Gordon
Isaac
Bamba

You’re wrong.

Wrong about what?

OrlandO wrote:

MagicFan101 wrote:

nymets1 wrote:Me personally I would start

Briscoe
Fournier
Gordon
Isaac
Bamba

You’re wrong.

Wrong about what?

Both on what will happen and on his opinion of what should.

MagicFan101 wrote:

OrlandO wrote:

MagicFan101 wrote:
You’re wrong.

Wrong about what?

Both on what will happen and on his opinion of what should.

Would have been better just admitting you read his post wrong...

OrlandO wrote:

MagicFan101 wrote:

OrlandO wrote:Wrong about what?

Both on what will happen and on his opinion of what should.

Would have been better just admitting you read his post wrong...

You’re wrong.