pepe1991 wrote:PennytoShaq wrote:pepe1991 wrote:Prime Thyme is saying clear and obvious fact.
Instad of bottoming out and being simply -sorry a** tankers last year (and this one) Magic made conscious decision to be threadmill team. Not bad enough to be on bottom, not good enough to be good.
Everbody knows that 57 years old Clifford was bad decision.
Everybody knows that Vučević is complimentary player who will once again thrown as go to guy.
Everybody knows Magic will be out of playoff race by mid December.
Everybody knows that Vučević and Ross won't resign.
So why pretend that this team is one Anthony Davis/Durant/Lebron away from turning a corner when they constantly put themselfs in position to botch that type of lottery jackpots?
It's no brainer that superstar is instant game changer , instad of going for that guy Magic are perfeclly fine with drafting guys like Isaac who's celiing has been downgraded by fact that now he will never become C under Magic, and that might be best position for him anyway.
Magic always make that type of decisions. It's not just Isaac.
Magic drafted Oladipo than promoted Evan as SG.
Magic drafted Hezonja in same year they gave Harris contract.
Magic saw potential in Gordon than traded for Ibaka and kicked him off position.
Now with Isaac they are kicking Gordon back out of his natural position, in same time Isaac has zero perimeter skills on offense and would be probably better used as small ball C,but since Magic went big ,with Bamba he will never be able to play it.
Making an absolute statement does not make it a fact. The sooner you accept that, the easier time you will have.
Example - Not everyone knows that Clifford was a bad hire. We haven’t even played game 1 and you marry yourself to ridiculous statements like this. Clifford could very well be the coach who teaches these guys how to play effective NBA basketball and gets rid of the crappy freelance habits some of these guys have built. What would a “tank”coach have done? Looks like the plan is to have Clifford coach the team and then after him, develop a young assistant to take over like Nurse did for Toronto. Doesn’t seem like a bad decision, and it’s definitely not something that can be decided upon before the season even starts.
Suddenly you want to act like Isaac is only going to be good as a Center in the NBA? Man, that’s just embarrassing hate, but has been the norm with you and any player you don’t like. Of course, your track record has been spotty at best. I think many people here saw your endless rants on Mario on OPP. You are not exactly a future NBA GM, so let’s not try and play pretend here.
Last year around this time you stated that AG could never shoot the 3, and yet he ended up shooting over 33% - which was a huge league from sub 28 the year before. But now you want to double down and say Isaac has zero perimeter skills - because why not right? Let’s just say anything and hope it happens, and if not, scramble for stats that show a player who made you look foolish is still not good in your eyes? This summer when Isaac showed some signs of offense you immediately shouted everyone down and caused daily arguments because you were so upset to see that a Magic player actually went against your “projections”.
We really are going to complain about Isaac kicking AG out of his “natural position” after saying all year that AG did “not deserve max” and after many of us told you he would most likely get 17-18 a year (he did), and now suddenly the concern is for AG’s future here? That’s amazing.
The FO resigned AG on a fair deal to see how these guys will play together and then to trade one of it doesn’t work out. It’s pretty obvious. AG had 18 a game last year and will probably average 18-20 this year while being forced to play more efficiently by Cliffordwhich means that he is an actual trade asset for us, unlike Vuc and DJ. Keeping a young asset on a good deal is never a bad move by a FO. If the worse case is that AG and ISaac play next to each other - cry me a river. Honestly, it’s just reaching to find a reason to complain at this point.Making an absolute statement does not make it a fact. The sooner you accept that, the easier time you will have.
Really? But you do it all the time with blind defense of every move ( or lack of moves) that Weltman and Hammond did. Litearlly findin excuse after excuse for everything,acting there is master plan in place , without single evidence of that.Example - Not everyone knows that Clifford was a bad hire. We haven’t even played game 1 and you marry yourself to ridiculous statements like this. Clifford could very well be the coach who teaches these guys how to play effective NBA basketball and gets rid of the crappy freelance habits some of these guys have built
See this is why i hate posts like this. You post clear lie ,that you can't support yet you act like it's true. Clifford by all accounts CAN'T run effective offense and for career he is below .500 as coach. That makes him inferior to guys like Frank Vogel who won 58% of games. But heeey,who needs fact when he can post opinions as facts , right Penny?Suddenly you want to act like Isaac is only going to be good as a Center in the NBA? Man, that’s just embarrassing hate, but has been the norm with you and any player you don’t like. Of course, your track record has been spotty at best. I think many people here saw your endless rants on Mario on OPP. You are not exactly a future NBA GM, so let’s not try and play pretend here.
Funny, this summer i put up your old qoutes in one debate proving that you are wish-washy about everything and you switch sides in arguments fast. As usual, sneaky personal insults from poster who reported me for doing one few months ago, time to return favor
Isaac thing, guy is 7 footer that can't really do much on perimeter, but has ability to defend well and block shots. Everything Cs need nowdays. Clear as a day. Skin made whole "Isaac is a C" thread year ago.Last year around this time you stated that AG could never shoot the 3, and yet he ended up shooting over 33% - which was a huge league from sub 28 the year before.
Did you sleep through 2018 where Gordon shot 27% ofr 3 over 4 months,yet finished with 33% due smoking hot one month?
Did you sleep through season where Gordon was one of worst iso scorers mostly because he was settling for terrible step back 3s?
As Prime Thyme said, your snarky , "im better than everybody" type of posting is annoying as hell. Also you are picking fights with everybody last few weeks because you feel need to defend every single move that front office did in last year and half .Even defending moves that did not happen.
I didn't even going to reply but you really had to throw sneaky personal attack didn't you?
Amazing how you complain about personal attacks and lies when you do the exact same thing.
You pick fights and argue constantly here as well. World class hypocrisy. Constantly putting words in ppls mouths and then upset when it happens to you? Hilarious. Im wishy-washy? Try harder man. You just flat out make things up constantly. Its unreal.
I dont care what you think about me. You have lived on message boards arguing about stuff for years. I saw how you were on the opp. Funny now how you cant handle the same treatment. Thats your issue to deal with, don’t project it on me. Speaking of annoying as hell - Your raging, non stop pessimism and never ending need to be right and validate yourself at all costs is right up there in the same category.
