Over/under for the Orlando Magic

[mason689]

Westgate Las Vegas Superbook released their over/under's for each team. The Orlando Magic come in at 31.5 wins having won 25 last year. A 7 win increase doesn't happen often, especially for a team that added as little as the Magic did. Mo Bamba and Jerian Grant were their additions, but they lost Mario Hezonja, Shelvin Mack, and Aron Afflalo. However, Terrence Ross and Jonathan Isaac both were injured and played a combined 1136 minutes. If the Magic trade Vucevic, they probably won't hit that 32 win mark, but if they keep everyone and even trade for a better pg, I think they may get it. My thoughts: https://www.pulsesportsmedia.com/over-under-betting-tips-southeast-division/

[The Real Dalic]

With the current team I'll go over if relatively healthy. If we trade Vuc, then under.

[MagicFan101]

If we keep Vuc then under.

If we trade Vuc for an upgrade at PG then over.

... you can swap Vuc for Ross or some combination of our vets but the idea remains. Upgrade the point and we instantly become closer to a .500 club.

[NickAnderson]

Under, gonna struggle to score 70 points a night.

[OrlandO]

Under, gonna struggle to score 70 points a night.

Can people stop saying this? It's a silly thing to say. No matter how bad they are they will still average 97-100 ppg. That's the new NBA. It's not that hard to score when everybody takes threes and the game is faster... what's hard is preventing better teams from scoring more.

[MagicFan101]

Under, gonna struggle to score 70 points a night.

Can people stop saying this? It's a silly thing to say. No matter how bad they are they will still average 97-100 ppg. That's the new NBA. It's not that hard to score when everybody takes threes and the game is faster... what's hard is preventing better teams from scoring more.

Exactly.

No team was worse than 98 ppg last year.

In fact, over the past 10 years no team has scored fewer than 87 ppg.

We would have to LITERALLY be a generationally terrible offense to average 85 ppg!

... 70!!!?? Come on.

[Def Swami]

Over by a game or two. If health becomes an issue, it'll be like last season.

[NickAnderson]

Under, gonna struggle to score 70 points a night.

Can people stop saying this? It's a silly thing to say. No matter how bad they are they will still average 97-100 ppg. That's the new NBA. It's not that hard to score when everybody takes threes and the game is faster... what's hard is preventing better teams from scoring more.

Exactly.

No team was worse than 98 ppg last year.

In fact, over the past 10 years no team has scored fewer than 87 ppg.

We would have to LITERALLY be a generationally terrible offense to average 85 ppg!

... 70!!!?? Come on.

over exaggerated a bit but that’s how bad we’ll be, bottom 3 on offense. Sig bet.

[MagicFan101]

Can people stop saying this? It's a silly thing to say. No matter how bad they are they will still average 97-100 ppg. That's the new NBA. It's not that hard to score when everybody takes threes and the game is faster... what's hard is preventing better teams from scoring more.

Exactly.

No team was worse than 98 ppg last year.

In fact, over the past 10 years no team has scored fewer than 87 ppg.

We would have to LITERALLY be a generationally terrible offense to average 85 ppg!

... 70!!!?? Come on.

over exaggerated a bit but that’s how bad we’ll be, bottom 3 on offense. Sig bet.

Bottom 3 still puts us around 100 ppg

[NickAnderson]

Exactly.

No team was worse than 98 ppg last year.

In fact, over the past 10 years no team has scored fewer than 87 ppg.

We would have to LITERALLY be a generationally terrible offense to average 85 ppg!

... 70!!!?? Come on.

over exaggerated a bit but that’s how bad we’ll be, bottom 3 on offense. Sig bet.

Bottom 3 still puts us around 100 ppg

Worst in the league then. No way we average 100 ppg

[MagicFan101]

over exaggerated a bit but that’s how bad we’ll be, bottom 3 on offense. Sig bet.

Bottom 3 still puts us around 100 ppg

Worst in the league then. No way we average 100 ppg

The single worst offense in the entire NBA last season averaged 98.8 ppg.

The third worse offense in the league averaged 102.3 ppg.

It’s just the nature of the league these days. No one is saying Orlando will have a good offense. We’re saying 100 ppg is the definition of a horrible offense in the game today.

[MagicMadness]

My personal over/under is 27.

Of course, trades could change that. But as of now, I'd expect us to be marginally better than last season.

If we stay fully healthy (Issac) then I could see us pushing that 30-32 win range.

[NickAnderson]

Bottom 3 still puts us around 100 ppg

Worst in the league then. No way we average 100 ppg

The single worst offense in the entire NBA last season averaged 98.8 ppg.

The third worse offense in the league averaged 102.3 ppg.

It’s just the nature of the league these days. No one is saying Orlando will have a good offense. We’re saying 100 ppg is the definition of a horrible offense in the game today.

I just don’t see use having enough shooting or playing to get there. Could be wrong but I doubt it.

[pepe1991]

Under, gonna struggle to score 70 points a night.

Can people stop saying this? It's a silly thing to say. No matter how bad they are they will still average 97-100 ppg. That's the new NBA. It's not that hard to score when everybody takes threes and the game is faster... what's hard is preventing better teams from scoring more.

Well in 8 of last 22 games Magic didn't score 90 points ... so...
Sure not all players played at that point, still games vs Spurs ( 72 ) , Bulls (82) were super stinkers of dumpsterfire,
There was lot of games where Magic ingaged into total shootouts and still got whooped ( 100-137 vs Hornets), ( 103-130 vs Wizards), ( 112-133 vs Warriors ).

I don't think scoring enough will be problem every night ,but it more depends of how opponents play than how Magic run offense.


btw league average is 106,3 ppg, Magic scored 103,4
2016-17 , league average 105,6 - Magic 101,1

[Mauro Pedrosa]

We go over but miss the playoffs

[NickAnderson]

Under, gonna struggle to score 70 points a night.

Can people stop saying this? It's a silly thing to say. No matter how bad they are they will still average 97-100 ppg. That's the new NBA. It's not that hard to score when everybody takes threes and the game is faster... what's hard is preventing better teams from scoring more.

Well in 8 of last 22 games Magic didn't score 90 points ... so...
Sure not all players played at that point, still games vs Spurs ( 72 ) , Bulls (82) were super stinkers of dumpsterfire,
There was lot of games where Magic ingaged into total shootouts and still got whooped ( 100-137 vs Hornets), ( 103-130 vs Wizards), ( 112-133 vs Warriors ).

I don't think scoring enough will be problem every night ,but it more depends of how opponents play than how Magic run offense.


btw league average is 106,3 ppg, Magic scored 103,4
2016-17 , league average 105,6 - Magic 101,1

Pepe coming in clutch

[pepe1991]

Can people stop saying this? It's a silly thing to say. No matter how bad they are they will still average 97-100 ppg. That's the new NBA. It's not that hard to score when everybody takes threes and the game is faster... what's hard is preventing better teams from scoring more.

Well in 8 of last 22 games Magic didn't score 90 points ... so...
Sure not all players played at that point, still games vs Spurs ( 72 ) , Bulls (82) were super stinkers of dumpsterfire,
There was lot of games where Magic ingaged into total shootouts and still got whooped ( 100-137 vs Hornets), ( 103-130 vs Wizards), ( 112-133 vs Warriors ).

I don't think scoring enough will be problem every night ,but it more depends of how opponents play than how Magic run offense.


btw league average is 106,3 ppg, Magic scored 103,4
2016-17 , league average 105,6 - Magic 101,1

Pepe coming in clutch

I mean it's not about raw PPG but how they get there , given how most teams like to play scoring 100 points isn't issue, scoring 100 points while being effective and being able to stay in games, and win games that are decide within 5 points is were key difference between great, good and bad team is.

Hornets last year were beyond terrible in "clutch" and that shifted whole season for them.

Just ask their fans about last season, their team simply could not finish games. They were ranked last in FG% and three point percentage in 4th quater, their late game situations costed them playoffs. Another reason why i don't get Clifford hire, team with limitations on offense hires coach known for being uncreative on offene, after sucking with another coach who is "defensive guru",also without any modern, creative idea how to run offense ( copy past same for Skiles ).

as it can be seen in their finsided article

Charlotte could not win a close game to save its life last season. Fans and experts alike chalked it up to bad luck and a fluky season. In the 2016-2017 season, the Hornets were 8-13 in games decided by five points or less. This season they were even worse, going 6-13. The Hornets cost themselves about four games this year with their inability to finish close games. If things had evened out this year would have been different.

It is tough to pinpoint why Charlotte is so bad in close games. However, digging deeper reveals the Hornets played in 41 close games defined by NBA.com and went 16-25, which was 24th in the league. Only one playoff team was below them, and the rest were awful lottery teams.

The more significant problem was the offense in clutch time. The Hornets ranked 26th in offensive rating in clutch minutes. Teams took away Walker in those minutes and dared other Hornets to beat them. Charlotte’s lack of ball movement was magnified in clutch situations as they finished 26th in assist ratio. The Hornets did not have enough willing or capable playmakers to get a good shot when it mattered most.

From what i see around internet, most betting houses have Magic between 30 and 33 wins. That sound logical on their part . Puts them in ballpark with Nets, Hornets, Knicks, Dallas, bit above Bulls , bit below Detroit.

[SHAQ32]

I'm trying not to think about it.

[BadMofoPimp]

Feels like another wasted season of barely watchable basketball by arguably the worst team in the NBA over the last 7 years. Wake me when its over and the team is relevant again.

[NickAnderson]

Can people stop saying this? It's a silly thing to say. No matter how bad they are they will still average 97-100 ppg. That's the new NBA. It's not that hard to score when everybody takes threes and the game is faster... what's hard is preventing better teams from scoring more.

Exactly.

No team was worse than 98 ppg last year.

In fact, over the past 10 years no team has scored fewer than 87 ppg.

We would have to LITERALLY be a generationally terrible offense to average 85 ppg!

... 70!!!?? Come on.

over exaggerated a bit but that’s how bad we’ll be, bottom 3 on offense. Sig bet.

Anyone still want a sig bet lolll