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Message Boar wrote:Interesting that he chose to completely forgo any kind of ring chasing and prefers to mentor young teams. It will be interesting to see where he spends his last season.
I've never seen a guy ruin his legacy more just by sitting at a desk talking.Optimus_Steel wrote:So this happened, Paul Pierce crapped his pants, thus why he 'needed' the wheel chair during the 08 finals.....
pepe1991 wrote:Marc Gasol found new victim, Cousins 4 points 3 rebounds
Bonafide89 wrote:I've never seen a guy ruin his legacy more just by sitting at a desk talking.Optimus_Steel wrote:So this happened, Paul Pierce crapped his pants, thus why he 'needed' the wheel chair during the 08 finals.....
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SOUL wrote:pepe1991 wrote:Marc Gasol found new victim, Cousins 4 points 3 rebounds
Probably his own victim at this point, but matching up against Gasol doesn't help. He played decent last game but yeah, sad to see what injuries can do to a player so quickly. He needs to go the Kevin Love route and just slim way down. Maybe reinvent his playing style.
pepe1991 wrote:Marc Gasol found new victim, Cousins 4 points 3 rebounds
He wasn't smart with his money. He had to pay Puma 13.5m and his former agent 4.7m, plus a failing restaurant.Message Boar wrote:
Vince is going to retire after next season!
Damn, I remember that he looked fairly close to being done when he was with us. Gotta give credit to the guy for reinventing himself and sticking around for as long as he has. That game winner he hit as a Maverick vs the Spurs was dope as hell, too. Interesting that he chose to completely forgo any kind of ring chasing and prefers to mentor young teams. It will be interesting to see where he spends his last season.
swarlesbarkley wrote:A little off topic from the 2019 finals...
I've been really getting into watching Kobe highlights over the last few weeks and it has made me think about a few things. I'm 34 years old so I watched all of Kobe's NBA career and it is really just hitting me that he only won 1 MVP. Obviously he's got 5 rings, 2 finals MVPs, and will always be in the GOAT conversation, but only 1 MVP is just criminal. He legitimately could've been named MVP in 2006, 2007, 2009, and 2010. Nash, Dirk, and LeBron were deserving, too, but I wonder if the media would go back and change their votes now knowing that he only won 1 for his career.
And then my main question for the board... what championship win was more impressive? LeBron and the 2016 Cavs over the Warriors or Kobe and the 2010 Lakers over the Celtics?
Cavs: LeBron, Kyrie, Love, JR Smith, Tristan Thompson
Warriors: Steph, Klay, Draymond, Bogut, Barns, Iggy (best record in NBA history)
Lakers: Kobe, Gasol, Fisher, Artest, Bynum, Odum
Celtics: Pierce, Allen, Garnett, Rondo, Perkins, Wallace
To me hands down it's the Lakers over the Celtics but it seems to rarely get brought up in terms of one player (Kobe) carrying a team over a more talented superteam.
tiderulz wrote:pepe1991 wrote:Marc Gasol found new victim, Cousins 4 points 3 rebounds
really? Boogie coming off injury, couldnt jump 3 inches off the ground. think thats more the issue than Gasol.
paperboymafia wrote:https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/6/6/18654834/orlando-magic-nba-finals-three-point-shooting a great little article about the 2009 magic, SVG teams with the Magic and todays 3 point shooting.
paperboymafia wrote:https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/6/6/18654834/orlando-magic-nba-finals-three-point-shooting a great little article about the 2009 magic, SVG teams with the Magic and todays 3 point shooting.
The Ringer wrote:The team remade itself that offseason after the departure of one of their ace playmakers, Hedo Turkoglu, in a sign-and-trade with the Toronto Raptors. The following decade in the Eastern Conference would be dominated by the Boston Celtics and LeBron James, with both the Cavs and Miami Heat. The Magic’s decline was hastened by the rise of superstars who eclipsed Howard, who was traded to the Lakers in 2012.
As the Magic were declining as a franchise and entering basketball’s wilderness, the sharp rise of more prominent shooters spurred a league-wide embrace of the 3-point shot, and the Magic became the NBA’s forgotten innovators.
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They also were not massive fans of pull-up 3s off the dribble. Van Gundy wanted his team to rely on spacing to create inside-out shots and get as many players involved as possible in a possession.
Of course, Turkoglu pulled up sometimes anyway, especially in the second half of playoff games, when he was essentially the team’s primary point guard. “We celebrate Giannis [Antetokounmpo]—and we should celebrate Giannis—and Hedo didn’t have the physical strength or talent of Giannis, but this was a 6-foot-10 guy who handled and passed like a point guard and shot the 3,” Van Gundy said. ”Even to this day, he’s on a short list of guys who could do that. There just haven’t been many guys like him in league history.”
BadMofoPimp wrote:Reached for a 2nd round talent in Nicholson.
So did Shaq who was the most dominant player in his prime.swarlesbarkley wrote:A little off topic from the 2019 finals...
I've been really getting into watching Kobe highlights over the last few weeks and it has made me think about a few things. I'm 34 years old so I watched all of Kobe's NBA career and it is really just hitting me that he only won 1 MVP. Obviously he's got 5 rings, 2 finals MVPs, and will always be in the GOAT conversation, but only 1 MVP is just criminal. He legitimately could've been named MVP in 2006, 2007, 2009, and 2010. Nash, Dirk, and LeBron were deserving, too, but I wonder if the media would go back and change their votes now knowing that he only won 1 for his career.
And then my main question for the board... what championship win was more impressive? LeBron and the 2016 Cavs over the Warriors or Kobe and the 2010 Lakers over the Celtics?
Cavs: LeBron, Kyrie, Love, JR Smith, Tristan Thompson
Warriors: Steph, Klay, Draymond, Bogut, Barns, Iggy (best record in NBA history)
Lakers: Kobe, Gasol, Fisher, Artest, Bynum, Odum
Celtics: Pierce, Allen, Garnett, Rondo, Perkins, Wallace
To me hands down it's the Lakers over the Celtics but it seems to rarely get brought up in terms of one player (Kobe) carrying a team over a more talented superteam.
tiderulz wrote:pepe1991 wrote:Marc Gasol found new victim, Cousins 4 points 3 rebounds
really? Boogie coming off injury, couldnt jump 3 inches off the ground. think thats more the issue than Gasol.
