Coach of the year

[rusoopE]

Hey guys I've been thinking about the possibility of Steve winning the award. I was guessing about the magic media expeculation and can't be lower imo. The team is filled with young talent which should improve his odds. So what record and/or achievement he should accolade to win it? I guess making it to the PO with a 6th seed should be enough. I know the magic doesn't have the media impact, but doc won it with only the 8th seed right? I'm not saying we gonna make it to the PO to be clear.

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[OrlandO]

Surely 8th seed would do it after being in the dumps the previous six years. That's a tough task for Cliff though.

[UCF]

Its only been four games and one of which we were blown out by 30. He’s a long way from being considered for COY. He’d need to win 50 or more imo to make the list.

[Knightro]

Its only been four games and one of which we were blown out by 30. He’s a long way from being considered for COY. He’d need to win 50 or more imo to make the list.

I don't think he'd need that much at all.

If the Magic win 40, I think he'd be strongly considered. +15 wins over the previous season with pretty much the same roster would put him right in the mix.

Now that said, I don't think the Magic are going to win 40.

[shadrock]

Lets focus on winning our third game of the season before we worry about insignificant things like coach of the year awards.

[Cockers]

Maybe in february we can talk about this (or close this discussion immediately), but in my opinion it is too soon to start this discussion now.

[rusoopE]

Maybe in february we can talk about this (or close this discussion immediately), but in my opinion it is too soon to start this discussion now.

I know its extremely early on the season. TBH i always had my expectations low and never hyped out about almost anything (excepting VC joining us lol) im not that kind of fan. All im asking is what you think the team should achieve to make Steve winner of the COY.
I remember last years the media had some high expectations about the magic some saying we gonna make the PO, now its backwards they rank the magic as one of the worsts teams (maybe they are right), last year was very underachieving imo.
Its pretty much the same team as last year, but now we have a starter Isaac, Bamba, Clifford and hopefully we are gonna evidence a better AG, on the other side we have no longer Payton and Biyombo (wich i think its better for the team). So i expect a better record this year, fighting for the 8th seed on March would delight me. So my question is an 8th to 6th seed would make Cliff a truly candidate for coach of the year? That will surpass my expectations and prolly the league's too, but i hope we can make it thats all

[fendilim]

BUDDY BALL COY.

[rusoopE]

Its only been four games and one of which we were blown out by 30. He’s a long way from being considered for COY. He’d need to win 50 or more imo to make the list.

I know right? As is pretty soon to rank the magic after beating the Celtics and loosing with a heartbreaking 3 from reddick

[Xatticus]

Surely 8th seed would do it after being in the dumps the previous six years. That's a tough task for Cliff though.

That would get him votes, but it wouldn't win it. Only one coach has won it with fewer than 50 wins (Sam Mitchell with 47 wins) since Doc Rivers won the award. Rivers winning the award was a bit controversial at the time, but Rivers was coaching a team that had been torn down and was predicted to be worst in the league.

Clifford improved Charlotte's record by 22 wins in his first season there and only finished fourth in the voting. At this point, everyone has seen Clifford coach poor rosters to middling records.

[rusoopE]

Surely 8th seed would do it after being in the dumps the previous six years. That's a tough task for Cliff though.

That would get him votes, but it wouldn't win it. Only one coach has won it with fewer than 50 wins (Sam Mitchell with 47 wins) since Doc Rivers won the award. Rivers winning the award was a bit controversial at the time, but Rivers was coaching a team that had been torn down and was predicted to be worst in the league.

Clifford improved Charlotte's record by 22 wins in his first season there and only finished fourth in the voting. At this point, everyone has seen Clifford coach poor rosters to middling records.

Nice quote mate preciate, its gonna be really though then

[VFX]

No.

Vogel would have been “considered” last year during the stretch of games this roster pulled out of their *** before looking like one of the worst teams in the east. Talk about getting ahead of ourselves here.

[rusoopE]

No.

Vogel would have been “considered” last year during the stretch of games this roster pulled out of their *** before looking like one of the worst teams in the east. Talk about getting ahead of ourselves here.

COY aint considered until season is over, so ofcourse he didnt get considered. Im not talking about the possibility of him winning but what should he achieve to winning it!

[VFX]

No.

Vogel would have been “considered” last year during the stretch of games this roster pulled out of their *** before looking like one of the worst teams in the east. Talk about getting ahead of ourselves here.

COY aint considered until season is over, so ofcourse he didnt get considered. Im not talking about the possibility of him winning but what should he achieve to winning it!

Make it to the second round of the playoffs in an incredibly weak east without Lebron and he will be in consideration.

[rusoopE]

No.

Vogel would have been “considered” last year during the stretch of games this roster pulled out of their *** before looking like one of the worst teams in the east. Talk about getting ahead of ourselves here.

COY aint considered until season is over, so ofcourse he didnt get considered. Im not talking about the possibility of him winning but what should he achieve to winning it!

Make it to the second round of the playoffs in an incredibly weak east without Lebron and he will be in consideration.

The votation is in theory (saying this because the awards are given after playoffs begins) just based on regular season as same for all the anothers. But wouldn't be awesome making it to the second round? Not even on my wildest dreams happened yet =(. Thx for the reply (=

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[dsg2021]

I do think he’ll set himself apart from any other ORL coach since SVG. No matter the record. He’s already making all the right observations and statements (from a limited fan’s view), already has a good rotation, already starting Isaac, already squeezing minutes in for Bamba and even squeezing him in 3-4 extra minutes alongside Vooch.

Usually in seasons past, there’d be a lot more debate about such and such player’s minutes, or such and such rotation or starters. None so much this year. I mean, the only thing we can think of is trying out Briscoe more, maybe trying Ross in the SL over Augustin, or Jerian or Briscoe over Augustin.

Plus, you look at how Cliff is bringing in tangible changes like lower TO’s, lower fouls, more passing, more cutting and put-backs. He thinks with the mastermind of SVG, but with a different manner and deeper perspective. He’s a coach’s coach. I’m a big fan of Cliff and more and more people are seeing it too.

I think he’s got a pretty good coaching staff too, btw.

[rusoopE]

I do think he’ll set himself apart from any other ORL coach since SVG. No matter the record. He’s already making all the right observations and statements (from a limited fan’s view), already has a good rotation, already starting Isaac, already squeezing minutes in for Bamba and even squeezing him in 3-4 extra minutes alongside Vooch.

Usually in seasons past, there’d be a lot more debate about such and such player’s minutes, or such and such rotation or starters. None so much this year. I mean, the only thing we can think of is trying out Briscoe more, maybe trying Ross in the SL over Augustin, or Jerian or Briscoe over Augustin.

Plus, you look at how Cliff is bringing in tangible changes like lower TO’s, lower fouls, more passing, more cutting and put-backs. He thinks with the mastermind of SVG, but with a different manner and deeper perspective. He’s a coach’s coach. I’m a big fan of Cliff and more and more people are seeing it too.

I think he’s got a pretty good coaching staff too, btw.

Nice job calling out all the good signs he showed us this far. Im a fan of him aswell since he was alongside Stan. Its pleasing to watch a coach doing what you want and Cliff is right on the spot!

[pepe1991]

Mike Malone and Mike Budenholzer today look like only contenders for this award.

[NBlue]

Mike Malone and Mike Budenholzer today look like only contenders for this award.

Alvin Gentry says howdy.

[woosah]

If we keep struggling to score 100 in a league that seems to be trending toward high scoring (avg 110) then idk how he will be considered because it doesn't seem to indicate we'd be winning. If he finds a way to keep those exploding teams from doing that then he should get all the praise in the world.