Revisiting The Oladipo/Sabonis - Ibaka Trade

[BlueBalls]

Possibly the worst move in the history of this franchise.

This is a top 5 team in the East right now if Hennigan doesn’t go full Hennigan and lay waste to this team’s rebuilding efforts with one misguided and utterly stupid move.

Obviously it does no good to lament such things, but I can’t help it. This wasn’t even something that looked awfulin hindsight. It was terrible the moment it was made.

I will never forgive Hennigan for that travesty.

[AddiFB]

This hasn't been discussed before so this thread was in great need.

[BlueBalls]

Then ignore it.

I don’t spend as much time here as others, hadn’t seen it discussed lately, so if this is annihilating a dead equine, then the moderators can remove it.

[Nemesis21]

Oh great another Hennigan basher.


Yes this was his worst move. No doubt. He did have a plan to build through the draft, but dumb and dumber f'd that up multiple times. RDV and Martins did more damage to keeping us in this 7 yr rebuild. I don't see you bashing them at all.



And no, the Magic are not a top team in the East if this trade isn't made. Oladipo doesn't become what he has, without being under Westbrook's wing for a year.

[MagicStarwipe]

If they let Hennigan build organically like he wanted to and weren't in a rush for the playoffs (this was a directive by Martins), the trade would never have happened. Also if we had a coach that could get to Vuc like Clifford has we wouldn't have been as desperate for rim protection.

[pepe1991]

Don't even man.
Not only that Oladipo is allstar but Sabonis looks like future star as well. That kid is 22, putting up 15-10 while being good defender and having highest FG% in nba.

[Knightro]

Please don't.

[BlueBalls]

Oh great another Hennigan basher.


Yes this was his worst move. No doubt. He did have a plan to build through the draft, but dumb and dumber f'd that up multiple times. RDV and Martins did more damage to keeping us in this 7 yr rebuild. I don't see you bashing them at all.



And no, the Magic are not a top team in the East if this trade isn't made. Oladipo doesn't become what he has, without being under Westbrook's wing for a year.

I loathe Martins. But this was still Henny’s trade. And assuming Vic never becomes what he is without a year under Westbrook is one of the biggest logical leaps I’ve ever seen.

[Nemesis21]

Oh great another Hennigan basher.


Yes this was his worst move. No doubt. He did have a plan to build through the draft, but dumb and dumber f'd that up multiple times. RDV and Martins did more damage to keeping us in this 7 yr rebuild. I don't see you bashing them at all.



And no, the Magic are not a top team in the East if this trade isn't made. Oladipo doesn't become what he has, without being under Westbrook's wing for a year.

I loathe Martins. But this was still Henny’s trade. And assuming Vic never becomes what he is without a year under Westbrook is one of the biggest logical leaps I’ve ever seen.

Again, Henny had a plan through the draft that RDV and Martins f'd up multiple times. And whether you want to believe it or not, Vic doesn't become the player he currently is, by staying on the Magic and without being under Westbrook's wing.

[PrimeThyme]

We lost the trade. Badly. /thread

[Skin]

This was triggered by an impatient front office that forced Henny to scrap his plan. #organic #stepbystep #sustainablility. They hired Skiles over him and told him he needed to win now.

So I don't blame Henny 100%. I get it though. Devos was dying soon and they knew it. Nothing to do now but suck it up and move on.

[yoyojw17]

ok BlueBalls.... like your name suggests.... you need to just ... "Let it go!"

lol... couldn't help it. Imma leave now. haha

[IllMagic04]

Nothing to revisit. It was a awful trade and I said it was awful when it happened. The sad thing about it is the Tobias trade was just as bad. Henny started off so good but those trades are all time bad.

[VFX]

One of the worst trades in Magic history.

You simply don’t trade up and coming youth, for a guy that’s already hit his ceiling, to a team that could barely make the playoffs.

Nothing else to say.

[TreasureCoast]

Possibly the worst move in the history of this franchise.

This is a top 5 team in the East right now if Hennigan doesn’t go full Hennigan and lay waste to this team’s rebuilding efforts with one misguided and utterly stupid move.

Obviously it does no good to lament such things, but I can’t help it. This wasn’t even something that looked awfulin hindsight. It was terrible the moment it was made.

I will never forgive Hennigan for that travesty.

Hennigan isn't to blame for this one. He wanted to build "organically" through the draft. I only wish he was allowed to go "full Hennigan" then maybe these short sided moves would not have happened. I get it though, you are upset and feel the need to have a scapegoat to blame. If you feel like Hennigan is to blame for everything then maybe you should be upset at the people who hired him as a young GM that would say yes to things.

[tiderulz]

Oh great another Hennigan basher.


Yes this was his worst move. No doubt. He did have a plan to build through the draft, but dumb and dumber f'd that up multiple times. RDV and Martins did more damage to keeping us in this 7 yr rebuild. I don't see you bashing them at all.



And no, the Magic are not a top team in the East if this trade isn't made. Oladipo doesn't become what he has, without being under Westbrook's wing for a year.

I loathe Martins. But this was still Henny’s trade. And assuming Vic never becomes what he is without a year under Westbrook is one of the biggest logical leaps I’ve ever seen.

not that big a leap, considering Oladipo said it himself. And that trade was forced on Hennigan.

[Magic#1]

When Henny got the pressure to win, it went south. If he didn't cave, he probably would have been fired anyway. Looking at what Tobias, Dipo and Sabonis are doing now is very difficult. I don't know who we would have instead of Isaac or Bamba, but Henny had done very well with what he had been given to start off with. It went south after Mario and he got pressured to win. It wasn't Henny's fault that ping pong balls didn't go our way for the first time in franchise history.

[tiderulz]

When Henny got the pressure to win, it went south. If he didn't cave, he probably would have been fired anyway. Looking at what Tobias, Dipo and Sabonis are doing now is very difficult. I don't know who we would have instead of Isaac or Bamba, but Henny had done very well with what he had been given to start off with. It went south after Mario and he got pressured to win. It wasn't Henny's fault that ping pong balls didn't go our way for the first time in franchise history.

considering Orlando traded Harris, part of the reason because he was "hindering" Gordon, i cant believe Orlando would have drafted Sabonis who is playing at PF.

[npiper17]

No thanks. I’d rather revisit my last dental treatment.

[Rainwater]

This topic has literally been discussed in it's own tread or been mentioned in every tread created on this board in some form or fashion a 100 times now since Victor busted out Ind. This topic will never die, lol.