Regular Season Game 32: Miami Heat (15-16) at Orlando Magic (14-17)

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[basketballRob]

We've been getting off to really slow starts lately.

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[SOUL]

[j-ragg]

Can’t tell if our defense or offense is dumber. Maybe Fournier will turn into a ball handler/good decision maker one day.

[basketballRob]

8 points in first 6 minutes is better than lately.

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[SOUL]

The last two shots they made, lol.

[basketballRob]

Vuc might have 12 rebounds already bouncing it off the rim as usual.

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[j-ragg]

I hate that our 6th pick is relegated to watching Fournier and Vuc run every play.

[pepe1991]

that offense

[pepe1991]

I hate that our 6th pick is relegated to watching Fournier and Vuc run every play.

i hate that our 6# picks have offensive skillsets of undrafted players

[SOUL]

I hate that our 6th pick is relegated to watching Fournier and Vuc run every play.

i hate that our 6# picks have offensive skillsets of undrafted players

pepe and **** on young players, name a better combo

[fklt]

net ratings of all lineups with 50 mins or more, grouped by with isaac, and without isaac. not pretty. even the starters who are pretty good with almost all combinations, become negative with him.

without
+18.3 D. Augustin, .N. Vucevic, .T. Ross, .E. Fournier, .A. Gordon
+5.7 D. Augustin, .N. Vucevic, .E. Fournier, .A. Gordon, .W. Iwundu
+4.0D. Augustin, .N. Vucevic, .E. Fournier, .J. Simmons, .A. Gordon
+2.5T. Ross, .J. Simmons, .A. Gordon, .J. Grant, .M. Bamba

with
-38.0 T. Ross, .J. Simmons, .J. Grant, .J. Isaac, .M. Bamba
-12.8 T. Ross, .E. Fournier, .J. Grant, .J. Isaac, .M. Bamba
-2.6 D. Augustin, .N. Vucevic, .E. Fournier, .A. Gordon, .J. Isaac

https://stats.nba.com/lineups/advanced/?Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612753&CF=MIN*G*50

edit: wrong thread

[j-ragg]

I hate that our 6th pick is relegated to watching Fournier and Vuc run every play.

i hate that our 6# picks have offensive skillsets of undrafted players

He’ll never get comfortable standing in the corner and watching. ALready have a terrible offense, Fournier having a terrible season but more usage. Blows my mind.

[j-ragg]

I dunno how we have so many Shaqtin turnovers.

[pepe1991]

I hate that our 6th pick is relegated to watching Fournier and Vuc run every play.

i hate that our 6# picks have offensive skillsets of undrafted players

In last 4 games Jonathan Isaac:
15 points total ( 6-17 FG ), 0 FTA, 2 assists , 3 TOs .

It's not hating, guy flat out sucks at offense.

[SOUL]

18 points would be an improvement for us lol

[nemesis37]

This is boring

[pepe1991]

net ratings of all lineups has 50 mins or more, grouped by with isaac, and without isaac. not pretty. even the starters who are pretty good with almost all combinations, become negative with him.

without
+18.3 D. Augustin, .N. Vucevic, .T. Ross, .E. Fournier, .A. Gordon
+5.7 D. Augustin, .N. Vucevic, .E. Fournier, .A. Gordon, .W. Iwundu
+4.0D. Augustin, .N. Vucevic, .E. Fournier, .J. Simmons, .A. Gordon
+2.5T. Ross, .J. Simmons, .A. Gordon, .J. Grant, .M. Bamba

with
-38.0 T. Ross, .J. Simmons, .J. Grant, .J. Isaac, .M. Bamba
-12.8 T. Ross, .E. Fournier, .J. Grant, .J. Isaac, .M. Bamba
-2.6 D. Augustin, .N. Vucevic, .E. Fournier, .A. Gordon, .J. Isaac

https://stats.nba.com/lineups/advanced/?Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612753&CF=MIN*G*50

edit: wrong thread

Because starters plays 4 on 5 with him. He is great 1 on1 defender but as help defender makes a lot of mistakes. It was best shown vs Bulls where he was just missing people after switches and kept going under screens for no good reason.

[basketballRob]

I hate that our 6th pick is relegated to watching Fournier and Vuc run every play.

i hate that our 6# picks have offensive skillsets of undrafted players

If they gave him some usage and put him in a spot where he likes it. Like on top of the key or elbow. He's quick and tall enough to get his shot.

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[j-ragg]

AG would be better cut for 90s nba when bigs couldn’t shoot. Falls asleep so much off ball. Think I’d give him an A for on ball defense this year and a D off ball.